Re: [Talk-us] highway=cycleway or highway=path

2011-06-26 Thread Mike N
On 6/26/2011 12:40 AM, Dion Dock wrote: However, when I look at Mapnik, I want to see the way's intended use. I'm sure there are plenty of counterexamples, but in my experience, all paths allow pedestrians, while only some allow bikes and/or horses. This renders nicely too: bikes get one

Re: [Talk-us] highway=cycleway or highway=path

2011-06-26 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/26/11 12:40 AM, Dion Dock wrote: Here's my opinion, and we all know what opinions are worth. :) I can understand why highway=path makes sense from a routing perspective. However, when I look at Mapnik, I want to see the way's intended use. I'm sure there are plenty of counterexamples,

Re: [Talk-us] highway=cycleway or highway=path

2011-06-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On 06/20/2011 05:29 PM, PJ Houser wrote: If a way is used for both pedestrians and cyclists, should it be tagged highway=cycleway or highway=path with bicycle=designated? This is what the bridge path looks like - http://bikeportland.org/2005/11/21/hawthorne-bridge-gets-new-markings-673. On

Re: [Talk-us] highway=cycleway or highway=path

2011-06-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On 06/20/2011 05:39 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 6/20/11 8:29 PM, PJ Houser wrote: I'm sure this was discussed ad nauseum at some point, so feel free to point me to the correct thread. i would say that consensus was not achieved. i personally favor highway=path and then setting bicycle,

Re: [Talk-us] highway=cycleway or highway=path

2011-06-25 Thread Dion Dock
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:10:39 -0700 From: PJ Houser stephanie.jean.hou...@gmail.com To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Cc: osm-...@googlegroups.com, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] highway=cycleway or highway=path Message-ID: BANLkTi=wktqodm2syffel-yznesus6n

Re: [Talk-us] highway=cycleway or highway=path

2011-06-22 Thread Mike N
On 6/21/2011 7:10 PM, PJ Houser wrote: Well, I have a conundrum here in Portland, Oregon. The 4 TriMet mappers here in Portland would prefer to tag all multi-use paths as paths, with bicycle=designated, particularly because we are attempting to make the Portland area routable. OpenTripPlanner,

Re: [Talk-us] highway=cycleway or highway=path

2011-06-21 Thread PJ Houser
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Re: [Talk-us] highway=cycleway or highway=path

2011-06-21 Thread PJ Houser
Wanted to make sure talk-us gets this message from a non-member of talk-us. :) -- Forwarded message -- From: David Turner nova...@novalis.org Date: Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:16 PM Subject: Re: highway=cycleway or highway=path To: osm-...@googlegroups.com Cc:

Re: [Talk-us] highway=cycleway or highway=path

2011-06-21 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
From: David Turner nova...@novalis.org Like any router, OTP requires clear rules for whether a cyclist or a pedestrian may use a way.  But OTP does not restrict what tags are used to define these rules.  That is configurable on a per-install basis. So, if Portland are OSM editors decide that

[Talk-us] highway=cycleway or highway=path

2011-06-20 Thread PJ Houser
If a way is used for both pedestrians and cyclists, should it be tagged highway=cycleway or highway=path with bicycle=designated? This is what the bridge path looks like - http://bikeportland.org/2005/11/21/hawthorne-bridge-gets-new-markings-673. On the

Re: [Talk-us] highway=cycleway or highway=path

2011-06-20 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/20/11 8:29 PM, PJ Houser wrote: I'm sure this was discussed ad nauseum at some point, so feel free to point me to the correct thread. i would say that consensus was not achieved. i personally favor highway=path and then setting bicycle, foot, etc., to indicate access permissions as

Re: [Talk-us] highway=cycleway or highway=path

2011-06-20 Thread Mike N
On 6/20/2011 8:39 PM, Richard Welty wrote: i personally favor highway=path and then setting bicycle, foot, etc., to indicate access permissions as appropriate. I agree - this is the approach taken with the JOSM preset, and will thus gravitate toward a more exact definition as tag sets become

Re: [Talk-us] highway=cycleway or highway=path

2011-06-20 Thread Josh Doe
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 6/20/11 8:29 PM, PJ Houser wrote: I'm sure this was discussed ad nauseum at some point, so feel free to point me to the correct thread. i would say that consensus was not achieved. Consensus for all of OSM or