Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
county route shields are not rendered in California. What is required to get them in? I have checked relations are following the same style as in New York where shields are currently rendered. California uses the standard county shield and it doesn't make sense to create a wiki page like the one for Ohio. -- Apo On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: * Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net [2013-07-29 08:17 -0400]: one thing to consider in NY, though - not all counties use the yellow-on-blue pentagonal County Route signs. right now it's automagically using that style shield for all county routes. should we deal with this or let it go? I'd prefer to deal with it. I'd like the shields to match actual road signs as much as possible. If you can get me a list of what New York counties use which sign styles, I'll work on getting the rendering to match them. For what it's worth, Minh Nguyen has been working with other Ohio mappers to both get Ohio's county routes into OSM and to document the signage (and the tagging they're using) at http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Ohio/Route_relations/Networks ; I would not at all object if people put together similar references for other states with diverse county sign styles. :) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
On 8/17/13 2:19 PM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: county route shields are not rendered in California. What is required to get them in? I have checked relations are following the same style as in New York where shields are currently rendered. California uses the standard county shield and it doesn't make sense to create a wiki page like the one for Ohio. i don't think CA has a shield configuration file yet either. i'm not sure how Phil wants to go about getting these into place. richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
It seems like shields for spur Washington State Hwys aren't rendering. I thought they were, but now it seems that they aren't. For example, WA 110 has a spur route that goes to the north of Quillayute (Quileute) River, but the shield for the spur route isn't showing up. (see link below) I created the relation for the spur route 16 hours ago, it should've rendered by now. I'm pretty sure I tagged everything right. Could someone have a look and tell me if I'm doing anything wrong? Link is here: http://bl.ocks.org/ToeBee/raw/6119134/#15/47.9151/-124.6000 Thanks, Compdude On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: We finally managed to get Phil's highway shield rendering up on the OSM-US server today! You can see the tiles here: http://tile.openstreetmap.us/osmus_shields/preview.html This is a pretty basic preview for now. I'll look at getting the tiles set up in a pretty leaflet UI or something. Toby ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: 1029 and 438 both render shields now. I looked at the existing ref=* tags on county roads in Douglas and made shields for everything that is there so as you add relations they should appear as expected. I'm not sure this county-by-county handling will scale very well though. Might have to put some more thought into this... Is there any way I could upload the shields myself? I do have the ability to make them. Right now, the only other Kansas county numbered routes with ref tags in OSM are in Douglas, Leavenworth, and Linn Counties... but there will be others (There are none, however, in Sedgwick, Shawnee, Osage, Jefferson, Johnson, or Miami) -- Richie Kennedy www.route56.com * richiekenned...@gmail.com facebook.com/route56 * twitter.com/route56 I'm not crazy. I'm just ahead of my time. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
On Aug 8, 2013 9:42 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: [As an aside, the 'N' and 'E' on Douglas County roads do *not* stand for 'North' or 'East,'] Well, it does, since they're defining range and plat, but you're correct that it's not expanded or assumed by anyone but surveyors. TIGER didn't get the memo apparently Actually, that may have been the abbreviation bot that ran last year if these county roads had the ref incorrectly in the name field instead of ref when it ran through. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Aug 8, 2013 9:42 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: [As an aside, the 'N' and 'E' on Douglas County roads do *not* stand for 'North' or 'East,'] Well, it does, since they're defining range and plat, but you're correct that it's not expanded or assumed by anyone but surveyors. TIGER didn't get the memo apparently Actually, that may have been the abbreviation bot that ran last year if these county roads had the ref incorrectly in the name field instead of ref when it ran through. Nope. This being Kansas, they were expanded by the bot that ran several years ago and was stopped at about the Mississippi. But the ways in question did have a tiger:name_direction_prefix tag on them. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Richie Kennedy richiekenned...@gmail.comwrote: Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but I'm having trouble getting county road shields in my area to render. Example: http://tile.openstreetmap.us/osmus_shields/preview.html#16/39.0031/-95.3842 I have made County Road 1029 a relation and, using another county road as a template, set the network as US:KS:Douglas (and have also tried US:KS:CR) Richard is correct. Kansas doesn't have any county road shields defined yet. Phil started off with data that actually exists and at the time Kansas didn't have any county relations. I will try putting together a sensible list for the state. Also, is there a way to fix the Kansas Turnpike shield. The KTA shield is not rendered as a cutout anywhere, even on guide signs. It was a style choice by Phil to do all shields as cutouts. I think it looks pretty good and having one that isn't a cutout may look odd... or not. I don't know. But yes, it can of course be changed. [As an aside, the 'N' and 'E' on Douglas County roads do *not* stand for 'North' or 'East,'] TIGER didn't get the memo apparently Toby ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Also, is there a way to fix the Kansas Turnpike shield. The KTA shield is not rendered as a cutout anywhere, even on guide signs. It was a style choice by Phil to do all shields as cutouts. I think it looks pretty good and having one that isn't a cutout may look odd... or not. I don't know. But yes, it can of course be changed. Phil may want to use this version as a basis for the Turnpike: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kansas_Turnpike2.svg I uploaded that to commons last night. The version currently posted looks like a poor tracing of a low-res bitmap. [As an aside, the 'N' and 'E' on Douglas County roads do *not* stand for 'North' or 'East,'] TIGER didn't get the memo apparently I'm more worried about flesh-and-blood mappers not getting the memo and causing an inadvertent edit war. ;) -- Richie Kennedy www.route56.com * richiekenned...@gmail.com facebook.com/route56 * twitter.com/route56 I'm not crazy. I'm just ahead of my time. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but I'm having trouble getting county road shields in my area to render. Example: http://tile.openstreetmap.us/osmus_shields/preview.html#16/39.0031/-95.3842 I have made County Road 1029 a relation and, using another county road as a template, set the network as US:KS:Douglas (and have also tried US:KS:CR) Also, is there a way to fix the Kansas Turnpike shield. The KTA shield is not rendered as a cutout anywhere, even on guide signs. [As an aside, the 'N' and 'E' on Douglas County roads do *not* stand for 'North' or 'East,'] -- Richie Kennedy www.route56.com * richiekenned...@gmail.com facebook.com/route56 * twitter.com/route56 I'm not crazy. I'm just ahead of my time. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
In a previous e-mail to the list, he said that relations for Turnpikes were based off the name tag for the relation, while the ones that had numbers shields were based off the network + ref tags in the relations avoiding the name tag entirely. -James From: lordsu...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 23:30:24 -0500 To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up! On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:44 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm curious, but has a solution been found for the problem with the PA Turnpike because of having to split up the ways into separate ones for each direction because of the relation getting close to the 1000 way limit we've imposed? I still think that using the super relation I created to tie the route together could be used instead for applying the shields over the separate ways for each direction. I'm not sure why/how directional relations would be a problem; I have the signed part of I-22 labeled with separate east/west relations yet there aren't 2x the number of I-22 shields as there are US 78 shields (which is a single relation). http://tile.openstreetmap.us/osmus_shields/preview.html#13/33.6875/-87.0588 (For routing applications we probably want directional relations anyway, since directional heuristics based on geography aren't always right in terms of the signed/logical route direction.) Chris-- Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com Website: http://www.cnlawrence.com/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
Strangely, the Oklahoma Turnpikes that have relations aren't showing up on the osm.us tile server. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:55 AM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: In a previous e-mail to the list, he said that relations for Turnpikes were based off the name tag for the relation, while the ones that had numbers shields were based off the network + ref tags in the relations avoiding the name tag entirely. -James -- From: lordsu...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 23:30:24 -0500 To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up! On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:44 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: I'm curious, but has a solution been found for the problem with the PA Turnpike because of having to split up the ways into separate ones for each direction because of the relation getting close to the 1000 way limit we've imposed? I still think that using the super relation I created to tie the route together could be used instead for applying the shields over the separate ways for each direction. I'm not sure why/how directional relations would be a problem; I have the signed part of I-22 labeled with separate east/west relations yet there aren't 2x the number of I-22 shields as there are US 78 shields (which is a single relation). http://tile.openstreetmap.us/osmus_shields/preview.html#13/33.6875/-87.0588 (For routing applications we probably want directional relations anyway, since directional heuristics based on geography aren't always right in terms of the signed/logical route direction.) Chris -- Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com Website: http://www.cnlawrence.com/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
Does anyone else besides me keep imaging Pavel Chekov (from original-series Star Trek) announcing shields are up with a heavy Russian accent? Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Strangely, the Oklahoma Turnpikes that have relations aren't showing up on the osm.us tile server. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:55 AM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: In a previous e-mail to the list, he said that relations for Turnpikes were based off the name tag for the relation, while the ones that had numbers shields were based off the network + ref tags in the relations avoiding the name tag entirely. -James -- From: lordsu...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 23:30:24 -0500 To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up! On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:44 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: I'm curious, but has a solution been found for the problem with the PA Turnpike because of having to split up the ways into separate ones for each direction because of the relation getting close to the 1000 way limit we've imposed? I still think that using the super relation I created to tie the route together could be used instead for applying the shields over the separate ways for each direction. I'm not sure why/how directional relations would be a problem; I have the signed part of I-22 labeled with separate east/west relations yet there aren't 2x the number of I-22 shields as there are US 78 shields (which is a single relation). http://tile.openstreetmap.us/osmus_shields/preview.html#13/33.6875/-87.0588 (For routing applications we probably want directional relations anyway, since directional heuristics based on geography aren't always right in terms of the signed/logical route direction.) Chris -- Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com Website: http://www.cnlawrence.com/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
On 8/6/13 10:49 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: Strangely, the Oklahoma Turnpikes that have relations aren't showing up on the osm.us http://osm.us tile server. there are a number of things still to be resolved in many places. the thing to do is identify problems and then pitch in fixing them. a couple of upstate NY mappers and i are working to deal with what we're seeing around here, which involves a combination of fixing/adding relations and helping to complete the shield definitions. the same thing needs to be done in a lot of places, and probably is best addressed by moving off list into direct communication with Phil and Toby. richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
Sorry, that was supposed to say imagining, not imaging. John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Does anyone else besides me keep imaging Pavel Chekov (from original-series Star Trek) announcing shields are up with a heavy Russian accent? Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Strangely, the Oklahoma Turnpikes that have relations aren't showing up on the osm.us tile server. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:55 AM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: In a previous e-mail to the list, he said that relations for Turnpikes were based off the name tag for the relation, while the ones that had numbers shields were based off the network + ref tags in the relations avoiding the name tag entirely. -James -- From: lordsu...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 23:30:24 -0500 To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up! On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:44 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: I'm curious, but has a solution been found for the problem with the PA Turnpike because of having to split up the ways into separate ones for each direction because of the relation getting close to the 1000 way limit we've imposed? I still think that using the super relation I created to tie the route together could be used instead for applying the shields over the separate ways for each direction. I'm not sure why/how directional relations would be a problem; I have the signed part of I-22 labeled with separate east/west relations yet there aren't 2x the number of I-22 shields as there are US 78 shields (which is a single relation). http://tile.openstreetmap.us/osmus_shields/preview.html#13/33.6875/-87.0588 (For routing applications we probably want directional relations anyway, since directional heuristics based on geography aren't always right in terms of the signed/logical route direction.) Chris -- Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com Website: http://www.cnlawrence.com/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
I'm curious, but has a solution been found for the problem with the PA Turnpike because of having to split up the ways into separate ones for each direction because of the relation getting close to the 1000 way limit we've imposed? I still think that using the super relation I created to tie the route together could be used instead for applying the shields over the separate ways for each direction. -James ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:44 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: I'm curious, but has a solution been found for the problem with the PA Turnpike because of having to split up the ways into separate ones for each direction because of the relation getting close to the 1000 way limit we've imposed? I still think that using the super relation I created to tie the route together could be used instead for applying the shields over the separate ways for each direction. I'm not sure why/how directional relations would be a problem; I have the signed part of I-22 labeled with separate east/west relations yet there aren't 2x the number of I-22 shields as there are US 78 shields (which is a single relation). http://tile.openstreetmap.us/osmus_shields/preview.html#13/33.6875/-87.0588 (For routing applications we probably want directional relations anyway, since directional heuristics based on geography aren't always right in terms of the signed/logical route direction.) Chris -- Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com Website: http://www.cnlawrence.com/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: how frequently do the tiles get updated right now? i'm treating this as a reason to fix the network tags for county routes in upstate NY and it'd be nice to see the changes actually have an effect. New tile should show up roughly every hour. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
On 8/2/13 9:12 AM, Ian Dees wrote: On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: how frequently do the tiles get updated right now? i'm treating this as a reason to fix the network tags for county routes in upstate NY and it'd be nice to see the changes actually have an effect. New tile should show up roughly every hour. ok. i have some network tags i updated several days ago and the shields haven't appeared, i'll have to go back and see what mistake i might have made with the update. richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
On 07/29/2013 08:17 AM, Richard Welty wrote: On 7/29/13 1:02 AM, Russ Nelson wrote: Toby Murray writes: We finally managed to get Phil's highway shield rendering up on the OSM-US server today! You can see the tiles here: http://tile.openstreetmap.us/osmus_shields/preview.html Looks good for New York State! Well done! Also looks like I need to start editing my local county roads so they can have shields, too. i agree with Russ, NY looks good for areas that have the needed relations. one thing to consider in NY, though - not all counties use the yellow-on-blue pentagonal County Route signs. right now it's automagically using that style shield for all county routes. should we deal with this or let it go? It might be worthwhile picking up the nonstandard color of the Nassau and Suffolk county markers. Beyond that, I'm inclined to say, let it go. I happened to notice while driving through the Catskills last week that Ulster and Greene counties use the county outline and the pentagon intermixed higgledy-piggledy, although in most cases the pentagonal signs looked newer. -- 73 de ke9tv/2, Kevin ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
Phil! Gold writes: I would not at all object if people put together similar references for other states with diverse county sign styles. :) Wikipedia to the rescue? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_routes_in_New_York -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-600-8815 Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
On 2013-07-29 11:12 AM, Richard Welty wrote: can someone please explain to me where to find documentation on the trick that's being used to generate customized SVG files for each of the counties based on the pentagonal shields? There's no trick, unfortunately. I'm just embedding images that I created and uploaded to Wikimedia Commons and linking the images to the templates that the slippy map would likely use. Luckily for you, roadgeeks have already uploaded a great many New York county route shields to Commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Diagrams_of_New_York_county_route_markers http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Diagrams_of_wide_county_route_markers_with_county_name For those that haven't been uploaded yet: 0. Install the free Roadgeek 2005 Series fonts, which mimic Highway Gothic. All the shields I've dealt with use Roadgeek 2005 Series B-D. http://miketheactuary.wordpress.com/roadgeek-fonts/ (The font files themselves are licensed for non-commercial use, but their output is an exact replica of a U.S. federal government design that's in the public domain.) 1. Locate a suitable SVG template at Commons. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:County_route_shield_templates (These templates are all freely licensed or in the public domain.) 2. In your favorite SVG editor -- I use Inkscape http://inkscape.org/, but Illustrator works too -- enter the county name and route number. 3. Commons doesn't have the Roadgeek fonts installed, so text will be set in a hideous serif font. To preserve the letterforms, select each text box and go to Path Object to Path (Shift+Ctrl+C). 4. Upload the files to Commons. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard If the shield uses the standard blue pentagon design, name it Anywhere County 123 and assign it to the categories Diagrams of New York county route markers and Diagrams of county route markers with county name. Otherwise, call it Anywhere County Route 123 NY and assign it to Diagrams of county route markers with county name. Naming the file according to this scheme helps Wikipedia route templates to automatically pick it up. 5. Back at the OSM Wiki page, use this linked image syntax: [[File:Anywhere County Route 123 NY.svg|48x48px|link=File:County Road square template green.svg]] -- m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
On 7/30/13 2:48 AM, Russ Nelson wrote: Phil! Gold writes: I would not at all object if people put together similar references for other states with diverse county sign styles. :) Wikipedia to the rescue? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_routes_in_New_York helpful but perhaps not complete. i've started putting together a NY page in the OSM wiki for route relations and i'll certainly find this reference useful. richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: We finally managed to get Phil's highway shield rendering up on the OSM-US server today! Fan. Tas. Tic. Bravo. Seeing the multi-plex signs is awesome and miles ahead of anything done anywhere else. http://tile.openstreetmap.us/osmus_shields/preview.html#12/39.7195/-86.1093 Thank you, Phil, Toby, Ian, et al. it is wonderful to see this running after years of hacks and hopes. Seeing this come to life is like falling in love all over again. :-) Best regards, Richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
On 2013-07-29 11:12 AM, Richard Welty wrote: can someone please explain to me where to find documentation on the trick that's being used to generate customized SVG files for each of the counties based on the pentagonal shields? There's no trick, unfortunately. I'm just embedding images that I created and uploaded to Wikimedia Commons and linking the images to the templates that the slippy map would likely use. This is a ridiculously well-written how-to guide. Thank you kindly, and nice job, Minh! SteveA California ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
These shields look really great! They're much better than what we had before. Now this will give me a good reason to create relations for highways, since many highways in Washington state are lacking in relations. And, sorry if I sound impatient, but when will the shields be up on the main OSM map? -Compdude On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 1:59 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: On 2013-07-29 11:12 AM, Richard Welty wrote: can someone please explain to me where to find documentation on the trick that's being used to generate customized SVG files for each of the counties based on the pentagonal shields? There's no trick, unfortunately. I'm just embedding images that I created and uploaded to Wikimedia Commons and linking the images to the templates that the slippy map would likely use. This is a ridiculously well-written how-to guide. Thank you kindly, and nice job, Minh! SteveA California __**_ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-ushttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
Would be pretty epic if that happened. I realize that shields in other regions (the UK and the EU in particular) tend to be as uninspired as Osage County roads, but still, being able to render something to keep your eyes peeled for (handy if you're not familiar with the area) instead of something generic and ugly (sorry, but when it comes to refs, the Ordnance Survey the current mapnik stylesheet uses just doesn't scratch my back). Would also promote usage of the route relations, which is a _way_ more elegant way of handling route refs instead of (incorrectly) attributing it to the way. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Evin Fairchild evindf...@gmail.com wrote: These shields look really great! They're much better than what we had before. Now this will give me a good reason to create relations for highways, since many highways in Washington state are lacking in relations. And, sorry if I sound impatient, but when will the shields be up on the main OSM map? -Compdude On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 1:59 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: On 2013-07-29 11:12 AM, Richard Welty wrote: can someone please explain to me where to find documentation on the trick that's being used to generate customized SVG files for each of the counties based on the pentagonal shields? There's no trick, unfortunately. I'm just embedding images that I created and uploaded to Wikimedia Commons and linking the images to the templates that the slippy map would likely use. This is a ridiculously well-written how-to guide. Thank you kindly, and nice job, Minh! SteveA California __**_ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-ushttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
* Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com [2013-07-28 22:38 -0500]: http://tile.openstreetmap.us/osmus_shields/preview.html Awesome! Thanks for all your work in making this happen! ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
* Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net [2013-07-29 08:17 -0400]: one thing to consider in NY, though - not all counties use the yellow-on-blue pentagonal County Route signs. right now it's automagically using that style shield for all county routes. should we deal with this or let it go? I'd prefer to deal with it. I'd like the shields to match actual road signs as much as possible. If you can get me a list of what New York counties use which sign styles, I'll work on getting the rendering to match them. For what it's worth, Minh Nguyen has been working with other Ohio mappers to both get Ohio's county routes into OSM and to document the signage (and the tagging they're using) at http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Ohio/Route_relations/Networks ; I would not at all object if people put together similar references for other states with diverse county sign styles. :) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
* Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com [2013-07-29 00:40 -0700]: I wonder if this would be helpful: I've been generating weekly generalized datasets of route relations. http://openstreetmap.us/~migurski/streets-and-routes/ The tiles take a little while to render, so I wonder whether using an intermediate data set would cut some corners while reducing repeat labels? One of my goals with this project was to make a rendering that works off a minutely-updated rendering database. It could probably be adapted to work off postprocessed datasets like your generalized route relations (though I don't know (because I haven't looked at your data) whether shield clusters would be easily derivable), but I think that having a minutely-driven rendering is really beneficial to mappers working on data the rendering highlights. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Shields are up!
We finally managed to get Phil's highway shield rendering up on the OSM-US server today! You can see the tiles here: http://tile.openstreetmap.us/osmus_shields/preview.html This is a pretty basic preview for now. I'll look at getting the tiles set up in a pretty leaflet UI or something. Toby ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Toby Murray wrote: We finally managed to get Phil's highway shield rendering up on the OSM-US server today! You can see the tiles here: http://tile.openstreetmap.us/osmus_shields/preview.html This is a pretty basic preview for now. I'll look at getting the tiles set up in a pretty leaflet UI or something. Toby Most of them look pretty good. The Texas FM/RM road shields need work though (missing the black backgrounds), and I'm assuming Louisiana shields aren't done yet? -- Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
Shield rendering is dependant on valid route relations existing. On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.comwrote: On Sun, Jul 28, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Toby Murray wrote: We finally managed to get Phil's highway shield rendering up on the OSM-US server today! You can see the tiles here: http://tile.openstreetmap.us/osmus_shields/preview.html This is a pretty basic preview for now. I'll look at getting the tiles set up in a pretty leaflet UI or something. Toby Most of them look pretty good. The Texas FM/RM road shields need work though (missing the black backgrounds), and I'm assuming Louisiana shields aren't done yet? -- Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
Most shields that have black backgrounds have them removed. It seems like a stylistic thing, and I think it looks good. On Jul 28, 2013 8:59 PM, Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 28, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Toby Murray wrote: We finally managed to get Phil's highway shield rendering up on the OSM-US server today! You can see the tiles here: http://tile.openstreetmap.us/osmus_shields/preview.html This is a pretty basic preview for now. I'll look at getting the tiles set up in a pretty leaflet UI or something. Toby Most of them look pretty good. The Texas FM/RM road shields need work though (missing the black backgrounds), and I'm assuming Louisiana shields aren't done yet? -- Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
