Re: [OSM-talk] Should we be mapping transformers and powerlines?

As discussed in this Practical Engineering episode , the publicly visible nature of the electrical grid makes security through obscurity very difficult if not impossible. He notes that ballistic-resistant walls around transformers are a likely future

Re: [OSM-talk] ODbl concerns

Robert, I applaud the Victoria government for using and collaborating on OSM data! As others have shared I think direct government involvement with and contributions to OSM are a great strategic direction. Here in the USA our federal government is required by law to put all of its publications in

Re: [OSM-talk] Intercultural differences / cultural diversity / OSM communication behaviors

Spot on, Greg! If this was Discourse I'd just leave a heart emoji, but since I have to type a reply anyway, I'd like to address some components of what makes communication civil and collaborative: 1. Assume positive intent until proven otherwise. 2. Don't assume that the reader's background

[Talk-us] Importing highway surface tags

Hello All, I'm pretty new to the OSM community and have gotten involved through a hobby project analyzing road geometrieshttps://github.com/adamfranco/curvature/wiki. I live in Vermont, a state where more than half of the road-miles are unpaved graded-gravel. For the benefit of my project and

Re: [Talk-us] Importing highway surface tags

and happy holidays! Best, Adam On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Andrew Guertin andrew.guer...@uvm.eduwrote: On 12/20/2012 05:03 PM, Adam Franco wrote: * Has anyone located a good source for state or national road surface data? The TIGER data doesn't seem to include surface information as far

Re: [Talk-us] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in, favor of relations

> > Anybody up for writing a quick-and-dirty "here's how to develop an OSM > renderer from scratch" wiki? (Maybe I just haven't seen this if it already > exists). It may not be drop-dead easy, but an intermediate coder should be > able to make one in short order (weeks, not months). I would

Re: [Talk-us] Best iOS app for GPS wander, GPX to laptop into OSM?

For trail surveys and other GPS recording on Android I've been very happy with Google's "My Tracks" app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.maps.mytracks=en It's pretty easy to use just hit "record", then allows the addition of markers & photos while recording --

Re: [Talk-us] Best iOS app for GPS wander, GPX to laptop into OSM?

wrote: > Besides having all the issues Keypadmapper has squared, how do you prevent > IP leakage from google to OSM? For example do you know if it employs any > "lock on road" or similar technology? > > Simon > > > Am 06.10.2015 um 17:47 schrieb Adam Franco: >

Re: [Talk-us] mapRe: (Second attempt) Potential data source: Adirondack Park Freshwater Wetlands

Kevin, as a Vermont resident who is planning several canoe and hiking trips to the Adirondacks (with data collection for OSM), I look forward to having this import as context. Especially when exploring the Saint Regis canoe wilderness, which has a few lakes in OSM, but is otherwise pretty devoid

Re: [Talk-us] Green Mountain National Forest cleanup

tps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moosalamoo_National_Recreation_Area> notes the ICUN class) - everything else -- probably protected_class=6 Thanks again for the feedback! On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 12:15 AM, Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.kenny+...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Adam

[Talk-us] Green Mountain National Forest cleanup

Hello all, I'm planning to do some cleanup of the Green Mountain National Forest in Vermont and figured it might be useful to provide the opportunity for feedback before embarking on this project. The Green Mountain National forest is currently mapped as two large outer-area relations that

Re: [Talk-us] Green Mountain National Forest cleanup

e, so if you need it done, do it > yourself." I'd be perfectly willing to do it myself, if it were not for the > fact that "doing it myself" would involve building an entire server > infrastructure to support a different rendering of the main map. That's not > somethin

[Talk-us] Potential data source - NY DEC points of interest

Hello all, After doing a bit of hiking and canoeing in the Adirondacks this summer I noticed that OSM has very poor coverage of campsites & lean-tos, something I'd find particularly useful. The New York DEC POI shapefile has the

Re: [Talk-us] Differences with USA admin_level tagging

an't speak to the situation in Maine. On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 7:39 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea < stevea...@softworkers.com> wrote: > Adam Franco writes his general agreement that Greg's assessment of > Massachusetts applies to Vermont. As I compare these two rows in the > table, they are id

Re: [Talk-us] Differences with USA admin_level tagging

Just to weigh in from Vermont, the situation Greg mentions in Massachusets also applies in Vermont: On Jul 9, 2017 3:14 PM, "Greg Troxel" wrote: > > From a state government point of view, the state is divided into > municipalities., where every bit of land in the state is in

Re: [Talk-us] guidelines regarding roads access

Thanks for the clear guidelines, Greg. One additional note is that at least in my area, the TIGER import incorrectly added access=private to many driveways and privately maintained residential roads. Upon surveying these I've found that they are signed "Private" or "PVT" on the street-name sign

[Talk-us] Vermont Town Boundaries import

I'm putting together documentation for an import of Vermont Towns at: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vermont_Town_Boundary_Import_2018 I'm currently looking at this import as a mostly manual process in JOSM (relations, tags, etc) with the boundary geometry being the only thing not

Re: [Talk-us] State Open Data

I've added Vermont's center-line info to the spreadsheet. As someone who does a lot of filtering of OSM roads based on surface, exposing surface info to a broader group of editors would be a fabulous win. Thanks for heading in this

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

Last summer there was a big thread Differences with USA admin_level tagging that talked a lot about odd cases in the US. As one example, Kevin Kenny pointed out

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

I > honestly am surprised a group of roadgeeks isn't more attuned to this > distinction. > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 3:15 PM Adam Franco wrote: > >> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 1:36 AM Paul Johnson wrote: >> >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 12:30 AM Bryan Ho

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 1:36 AM Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 12:30 AM Bryan Housel wrote: > >> I do understand your point, but a dozen or so people on talk-us and the >> six or so people on that changeset 64919426 >> > > Well, 1 person, an AA roads troll and like 5 sockpuppets.

Re: [Talk-us] Potential Mechanical Edit to remove access=private from Amazon Logistics driveways in NH

There were several threads in talk-us during July that discussed the problems of access=private on driveways: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2020-July/thread.html - [Talk-us] access=private on driveways (was: Deleting tiger:reviewed=no/addr:street for routes)

[Talk-us] maps missing attribution on usnews.com

I was just reading through the recent US News & World Report college rankings and saw my OSM handiwork in their maps locating each school, but without any attribution. Tiles look to be served from their own domain. Example: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/middlebury-college-3691 - Map in

Re: [Talk-us] access=private on driveways

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 7:46 AM Greg Troxel wrote: > ... > > As for access=private 'breaking' routing, this discussion feels very > much like tagging for the router, instead of tagging what is and fixing > the router. If you are driving someplace and you have permission, then > it should be

Re: [Talk-us] Deleting tiger:reviewed=no/addr:street for routes (was: Streaming JOSM -- suggestions?)

> > On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 6:12 PM Alex Hennings > wrote: > ... > I've developed a strong opinion that a privately owned road (or anything > else) should be tagged "ownership=private". Don't confuse the ownership > with the access rights even though we use the same word for them in > English.

Re: [Talk-us] National Forest boundaries

> > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 1:40 AM stevea wrote: > A refinement, perhaps Bradley and others agree with me, perhaps not. > > A USFS NF is a "virtual" multipolygon (not one in OSM, we can get to that > later) of three kinds of things: > > 1) An "outer" (but not the biggest one) which is "the

Re: [Talk-us] National Forest boundaries

use ways may be shared between children, eg the border between a protect_class=6 and a protect_class=1b area would be a role=outer of both, potentially resulting in an invalid multipolygon <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:multipolygon#Overlapping.2C_unclosed_member_ways_belonging_to_th

Re: [Talk-us] National Forest boundaries

Three years ago I updated the tagging and relations of the Green Mountain National Forest in Vermont after some discussion in the Tagging list (start

Re: [Talk-us] Interested in importing address points in New York State

etting a more blanket approval that could cover this and other OSM projects. In case it help you or others as a starting point, here is the message I used for Vermont: -- Forwarded message - > From: Adam Franco > Date: Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 4:59 PM > Subject: Vermont/