Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

Any contributor interested in these Netto shops can edit the name, add an operator tag or else to distinguish them. If they are not interested or do not know better, then the should not do anything. If they are interested but not contributors, they can contribute. Yves Le 3 octobre 2017

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

Hi Andy, Am 2017-09-27 um 17:57 schrieb Andy Townsend: > On 27/09/2017 15:35, John F. Eldredge wrote: >> The spatial information will tell you where each business location is; >> it is not sufficient to tell you whether these are multiple locations >> of the same brand, or two unrelated brands

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

If we would have stable ids, then this 'problem' could be resolved by adding the foreign keys to our objects to Wikidata, which is their normal way of operating. It took me a few messages to explain to the Wikidata contributors that we don't have stable ids and that the best way forward was to

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

On 27/09/2017 19:47, Marc Gemis wrote: Is "the same geographical area" relevant ? Why should a data consumer use a separate datebase to identify the brand of an item ? Simply because some people had suggested that "brand:wikidata" was unnecessary because you could always work out what brand

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

sent from a phone > On 27. Sep 2017, at 23:09, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > > Martin, that specific Wikidata item may have some, possibly incomplete data, > that can be easily fixed, but that's irrelevant. As I keep saying - the > wikidata and wikipedia tags are no

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

> > > Specifying Q125054 is the same as specifying "Aldi". If needed/wanted, > it could be replaced with the more specific wikidata entry like Aldi Nord. > > no, it’s not the same, because this wikidata object suggests that there is > one company, Aldi GmbH & Co. KG, with 2 seats, and one logo. >

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

sent from a phone > On 27. Sep 2017, at 22:04, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > > Martin, you cannot make a general claim based on a single value. I didn’t make a general claim based on this, I said it’s another example. > Specifying Q125054 is the same as specifying

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

sent from a phone On 27. Sep 2017, at 21:58, Andy Mabbett wrote: >>> the only wikidata example I can >>> find is https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/25716765 > >> which btw. is another good example of misleading and wrong information via >> wikidata. > > No, it's an

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

That's exactly what we are trying to do. Add another tag -- brand:wikidata=Q550258 On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 4:10 PM, yvecai wrote: > Excuse me, but what does wikidata do in this discussion ? > If brand=wendy is different tham brand=wendy, and if somebody has a > problem with

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

Excuse me, but what does wikidata do in this discussion ? If brand=wendy is different tham brand=wendy, and if somebody has a problem with is it, why not change the key, values or add another tag, document it and voila ? Yves ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

Martin, you cannot make a general claim based on a single value. Users can enter "Aldi", or "Aldi Nord" or "Aldi Sud". With different capitalization and dashes, and with or without dots, and god knows what other creative ways to misspell it. Specifying Q125054 is the same as specifying "Aldi". If

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

On 27 September 2017 at 20:50, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > On 27. Sep 2017, at 17:57, Andy Townsend wrote: >> the only wikidata example I can >> find is https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/25716765 > which btw. is another good example of misleading

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

sent from a phone > On 27. Sep 2017, at 17:57, Andy Townsend wrote: > > In Germany both Aldi Nord and Aldi Sud operate, but these tend to be tagged > in OSM as operator rather than brand, and the only wikidata example I can > find is

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

Marc, I think you are confusing the goal and the means to get there. I agree - the goal is to be able to globally find all Wendy's, so that when I travel, I still can search for familiar brands. So the same brand should have the same ID everywhere. That ID can be either textual or numeric. Both

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

Am 27.09.2017 um 20:47 schrieb Marc Gemis: >> Can anyone think of an example where two unrelated brands share the same >> name and category of business in the same geographical area? > Is "the same geographical area" relevant ? Why should a data consumer > use a separate datebase to identify the

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

> > Can anyone think of an example where two unrelated brands share the same > name and category of business in the same geographical area? Is "the same geographical area" relevant ? Why should a data consumer use a separate datebase to identify the brand of an item ? Suppose I want to find all