Speaking of barridas, sweeps and drags...
How do Argentinians define the difference between a barrida and an arrastre?
I've heard one teacher saying that an arrastre is when the foot goes
linear past the lady's standing foot, while a barrida is when the
swept foot goes around the lady who is pivoti
> Do such tools exist?
http://www.midomi.com/
http://www.namemytune.com/
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http://www.mandragoratango.com/archives/2008/05/70_of_the_most.php is
your friend
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What's the Spanish name for the 'butt kick' move?
Sergey
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I don't like his a) posture - the eyes seem to be fixated on his
partner's breasts :) b) left arm going up and down all the time
Sergey
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Mario wrote:
> OK..we don't want to say exactly what we like 'cause we could get criticized
> but this pair's Tango is wow!
> I
It depends on the setting and context. If we are at a practica, and I
know the partner is less skilled, I might ask "Do you want to practice
or just dance?"
If she wants to learn, we move to the center and practice. If just
dance, we will do that, and if she does something wrong, I better have
plan
There's a comment right under the video explaining what's going on.
Apparently they are being filmed by a camera and the goggles show them
how they look from the side.
While I have no idea how effective this particular method, I can tell
there was more than one occasion when I looked at a video of
There was a video with Chicho making rounds several months ago. It
seemed his partner was doing these high kicks on every second step :)
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On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Mario wrote
Bouncers have too much discretion. We should create an official
rulebook and have referees enforce it, football-style. Two linesmen
and one chief referee who will be in the center of the dancefloor,
watching everybody. If there is a minor violation, the offenders will
be stopped, and walked off the
You don't *need* most of the ***adas. However, you *can* incorporate them to
spice up the dance.
Specifically:
- volcadas - I use them sporadically (at most once per song, usually <=1 per
tanda) if I feel the connection with the partner is especially strong; when
they work, they are fun!
- sacadas
This is the beginning, but he was going into more and more details.
For example, if I remember correctly, instead of your "4 different sacadas"
he would count 6 - L/R foot, done with front cross, back cross and open.
Also he would count an extra variation done with both feet at the same time
- it l
Funny how an Argentinian gaucho dance resembles the Caucasian lezginka (for
example, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL5LuAZ6ebw ) so much. The
Caucasians don't have boleadoras though, they use mean-looking daggers
instead!
Sergey
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Here's a video of Naveira where you can clearly see him stepping heel first
with his left and toe first with his right.In a class, no less.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgnjOZxVsCw
Obviously, when you step heel first, you can make a larger step. Beginning
leaders often don't realize that they ca
> Nuevo dances should develop their own name, but let me suggest one
> that was mentoned on another list: NUEVILONGA. This name is not only
> accurate, but it is really cool!!
It has EVIL in it!
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> but I also feel that to critique others, one should be at a certain level..
> Are you at their level?
I strongly disagree with that. I do not need to be a professional
singer to be able to say that I like the voice of one singer and
dislike the voice of another. I do not need to be a heavy meta
It's called "Perdizione"
Short version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-629zssP21Y
Full version: http://www.arzanohumorciak.com/corti_2006/perdizione.html
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On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 2:42
>You do not go the cross in milonga
I've been taught that going to the cross is OK, but there can't be a
pause there, like in tango, so the follower is walking backwards in
the same rhythm, with or without the cross.
>and you don't do a resolution in milonga
Huh? The basic milonga step is basical
To me, this video seemed like "they don't know what to do when their
feet on the floor, so they have to resort to acrobatics".
The only one dancer worth watching was the guy with a hat - he knew
what he was doing, so his partner mostly stayed on the ground.
Sergey
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( Sorry, this has nothing to do with tango. But I want to set the
record straight. )
> The difference here is that astronomy is a topic where there is a clear
> objective truth.
No, there is no such thing!
The choice of a central object around which other objects revolve is
simply the one of a
Lifting the follower's left side (your third option) works, but more
experienced followers find it cheating. Essentially you are lifting
her so far that her left foot cannot reach the floor, so you are
limiting her moves, even for one "quick" beat.
The fourth option - to lose contact - is breaking
> All dancers in the 'nuevo' lot you mentioned from Arce, Chicho
> etc. consider themselves mainly social dancers
Kung Fu Tanda by Gustavo Naveira comes to mind
http://www.tangoandchaos.org/chapt_6school/36nav3.htm
Sergey
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> Sergey, what, no smiley-face after that? Surely you can see that this is a
> joke-page.
The jokes don't need to be accompanied by smileys to be funny.
For example, there is no smiley in my signature either.
Sergey
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Vince Bagušauskas wrote:
>
> Reading the further postings on Tango 2000... for Dummies and the off list
> emails I have recieved, raises the suggestion that,
>the organisers should put up a sandwich board outside the milonga door/a
>notice in their newsletter/int
> If I steer away from some guy doing his 96 varieties of ganchos
It's 98 according to Naveira (
http://www.danceoftheheart.com/naveirainterview.htm ).
However, it's entirely possible that he only teaches 96.
It could be that the other two are Dim Mak ganchos and can be done only once...
Sergey
M
> Nuevo dancers have 'alternative milongas' with a mix of classic tango, modern
> tango, nuevo tango, neotango, and non-tango music.
Now I want to know the definitions of "modern tango", "nuevo tango",
"neotango" and how they differ from each other.
Sergey
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>>I'd agree 100%. In fact, if you could put military and tango together,
>
> It would probably be like the following:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pojGjRa13uE
Oh my god... I did bolt out of ballroom tango after a single class
(hated the way they said the leaders should step - deeply bent kne
Any dancing experience helps learning AT, as dancers have more balance
than ordinary people.
However, I did notice that some women experienced in ballroom tend to
lean back, which makes it harder to lead them.
Sergey
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Sandhill Crane wrote in another topic:
> (yes, using the 8 count basic with dreaded back step)
I am looking for an answer to why is the basic step taught with the
back step and can't think of any reason other than "tradition".
Why shouldn't we remove the back step and make a 7-count basic?
If you
Charles Roques wrote:
>You start there and build from it
In, for example, cha cha, you start from the basic step and keep adding to it.
But the basic step itself is a legal figure that can be danced on the floor.
The tango 8CB step the way it is usually taught - starting from the
back step - shoul
Dance show "Cardinal" http://cardinal-show.ru/
If you want to contact them, I can help translating into/from Russian.
Sergey
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> Does anyone know who the dancers in this youtube video ar
Look what I found!
A 1914 silent movie by Charlie Chaplin called "Tango Tangles" (or
"Charlie's Recreation")
http://www.archive.org/details/CC_1914_08_13_CharliesRecreation
Do you think the dancing in the first minute of the movie is really
what was called "tango" back then?
Sergey
May you be for
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:28 AM, Huck Kennedy wrote:
> ...rather than just demonstrate
> something and then say, "You guys see that? Pretty cool, eh? Now
> just copy it and off you go, see you next class!"
I was at a class once when the teacher (I think he was Argentinian,
but don't remember fo
You can get the DVDs of the best dancers in the world explaining every
step in minute detail.
But what is the DVD going to do when you repeat the step incorrectly?
How is the DVD going to make you fix your posture, your walk, your
contra-body movement?
If you really don't have time for the classes
Just got this today in the email from a local (Argentinian by origin) teacher:
"A class to learn, review and polish the fundamental elements in Tango:
ochos, paradas, boleos, barridas, ganchos, amagues, giros, sacadas,
etc. We will work on those elements in their most basic form, as well
as balanc
"Some dancers concentrate on themselves while others concentrate on
their partner."
Well said Michael! From now on I will use this quote when explaining
why I don't much of that "legs in the air" stuff.
Sergey
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Shahrukh,
> (notwithstanding the claim that tango is "nothing more than walking" --
> that's only true once you're super-advanced)
As one follower friend of mine said, it's "walking while hugging" - a
HUGE difference :)
Sergey
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Does the cruzada position with the left foot crossed in front of the
right one exist in other dances?
Or is it unique to AT?
Thank you,
Sergey
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Happy birthday Maestro!
Speaking of Facundo, is there a name to the step he does at about 1:48
into this video while leading his partner into ochos adelante?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH36j6v5qPg
Sergey
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Nancy,
While I agree with most of your points, I have to ask - what is wrong with HATS?
Of course, I mean, when the height difference is large enough so that
the hat does not violate the closeness of the abrazo.
Sergey
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Well, if I don't remove my glasses I'll be crashing with everybody, my sight
is that bad.
And most ladies (at least 20 cm shorter than me) didn't have a problem at
all with my hat.
Sergey
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The usual (here in Boston) way is - partners are rotating on teacher's
notice; however, there are some couples who want to stick together and
that's fine, rotation just happens as if they weren't there.
I strongly encourage folks to rotate, also I usually try to pair up
more advanced people with b
t;
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> The usual (here in Boston) way is - partners are rotating on teacher's
> notice...
>
> I stro
Step 1: Open Google.com
Step 2: type "Come Together" Tango & Beatles, click "Search"
Step 3: Click on the very first result, which is
http://jbpimentel.blogspot.com/2008/10/tango-beatles.html
Step 4: Scroll down, click on the download link
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king a profit in
selling it.
Sergey
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Peter Turowski wrote:
> Sergey Kazachenko wrote:
>
> ...a helpful tutorial in five steps.
> On the other hand you could abbreviate it
> and create one step out of five
> http://en.lmgtfy.com/?q=illegal+music+dow
Well said Pat!
AFAIK, in Spanish the roles are simply called "hombre" and "mujer",
regardless of the gender of the dancers.
I usually avoid saying "leading" and "following" for exactly the
reasons you mention.
I will make a mental note from now on to use "invite" and "respond"
when explaining in E
I am visiting San Francisco and got to Gabriel Missé's (
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/11/arts/dance/11tango.html ) workshop
He was saying that leading with the chest is a later invention and
that old milongeros used the right hand lead.
If you press the right palm down, that's a signal for the la
> I guess dancing isn't supposed to be fun when one is in training for 'dancing
> with the stars'.
[...]
> I think that 'Salon' is simply the new catch word for covert 'performance'
> tango.
I just don't see what is so performance-y in her dancing. She is
keeping her feet on the floor, doing mo
And the two arts can be combined!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQxmBv_0aWY
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Jim Gillette wrote:
> There is another 2 person activity that is interactive, starts with guided
> movements or
>choreography and evolves to an intuitive, shared, moving experience. I
If I understand correctly, by US law works of art are copyrighted 70
years after the authors' death. Seems that Argentinian law is similar:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_copyright_law
So while you might be OK copyright-wise (but not codigos-wise!) with
playing Gardel, most Golden Age era
The easy (and about 90% accurate) demarkation would be:
Tango Salon = feet stay on the floor all the time
Tango Nuevo = one foot gets off the floor
Show Tango = the whole lady gets off the floor
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Shahrukh, I think you are at least 95% there ;)
Shahrukh Merchant wrote:
> Show Tango = You're dancing for everybody other than your partner and yourself
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MIT is a tango anomaly.
There are almost always more men than women at MIT practicas.
Sergey
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I like Los Chantas. While firmly rooted in the traditional tango, they
add hints of jazz (at least that's what I think).
http://www.loschantas.com/chantas/home.htm
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At least here in Boston most nuevo dancers are more experienced than
regular ones, they use the space efficiently - large moves when there
is no danger to others, small confined moves when there is not enough
room. I saw Damian dance when he was here. It was a very small-space
milonga (the space is
Dear listmembers,
I am about to move to a new place, and it, sadly, has a carpeted floor.
What can one do to create a little practice space without ripping off
the carpets?
Any suggestions?
I vaguely remember someone (Eero?) saying something about using
roll-on vinyl for outdoor guerilla tango ev
> Heel or toe first? For me, I think Javier Rodriduez.
I think we should all learn from Naveira:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgnjOZxVsCw
- walk heel first with your left and toe first with your right. This
way you give your partner the best of both worlds!
Sergey
So Balmaceda is actually the opposite of Naveira!
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Lisa Battan wrote:
> Julio Balmaceda also (at times) will walk toe first with the left and heel
> first with the right.
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Alexis Cousein wrote:
> I *DO* object to leaders looking down enough to disturb
> the embrace (in open embrace either by hiding their centre,
> in close embrace by pushing the follower with the head
One of my female tango friends got a neck muscle problem, she claims,
from too many leaders pushing
Sergio,
Thanks for the Nito's video. Amazing!
Sergey
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1) The partner dance challenge. As cliched as the phrase is, it is
true, it takes two to tango. You may be the best dancer in the world,
but coupled with the worst one you'll be the worst couple. Listening
to your partner and adjusting your moves to them is a challenge.
2) The improvisational chall
> Given the fairly low traffic of this list, it seems like a bad idea to
> want to split it up into different lists. I would suggest a [Followers
> Only] subject tag, and see how that goes, first.
What if men who follow invade the [Followers Only] tag and start doing
their manly bad stuff there?
W
> and if everyone would just video-record their lessons and step-combinations
> and put them online: who would attend the classes in future?
If the class is all about the step sequences that can be easily
deciphered from a recording of students trying to imitate the
teachers, that lesson, IMO, is
> 4. It holds up traffic if no one else is doing it.
5. The song starts, about half of the couples start dancing, the other
half is still chatting. Navigation is (usually) not an issue, but
hearing the music over the voices is.
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These two guys are both very highly rated professional
dancers/teachers, so by definition, they have to be very proficient in
both roles. I'd estimate (I have only met Daniel, and not Alex, in
person) that 99% of US tango dancers of either gender cannot dance
like either one of them. But of course,
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