Re: Currupted mail/repair

2004-11-10 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Alexander, On 11-11-2004 08:47, you [ASK] wrote in : ASK> Any self-healing capabilities of about anyhing in the world (except ASK> those of my own physical body) usually make me go to red alert... ASK> :) I know. It is also very un-likely of me to trust this... :) -- Bes

Re: Currupted mail/repair

2004-11-10 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Peter, Thursday, November 11, 2004, 8:40:04 AM, you wrote: > No, true, but I _can_ blame TB! for corrupting my message base and > the lulling me into a false sense of security be claiming the > ability to repair it. Any self-healing capabilities of about anyhing in the world (except those

Re: Currupted mail/repair

2004-11-10 Thread Peter Fjelsten
MAU, On 11-11-2004 01:38, you [M] wrote in : M> From what you say it looks like you didn't back up your massage base M> in 15 months, and you can't blame "repair" for that. No, true, but I _can_ blame TB! for corrupting my message base and the lulling me into a false sense

Re: Currupted mail/repair

2004-11-10 Thread MAU
Hello Peter, > I was stupid enough not to back up the TBB file before I let TB! > "repair" the message base. > > The result: One part0001.bin of 43 MB and _15_ months of mail lost! From what you say it looks like you didn't back up your massage base in 15 months, and you can't blame "repair"

Re: Wish: HTML inline forwarding

2004-11-10 Thread hggdh
Alexander S. Kunz wrote: And you & I - we both have to deal with an HTML mail one day. Maybe. And on that day, it should work as expected (and I do not expect my mail client to blow an HTML message to pieces when forwarding/redirecting it), and thats what this thread is about. I stand corrected.

Re: Currupted mail/repair

2004-11-10 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Peter Fjelsten & everyone else on 10-Nov-2004 at 22:38:58 (GMT +0100), you wrote: > I think the "repair" sucks big time. Has anyone else experienced > something similar? What can I do to the bin file to retrieve the > messages? I don't know the format of the .bin file that you have now.

Currupted mail/repair

2004-11-10 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Hello beta testers. I just got a "your message base is corrupted - do you want to repair it now" message. I was stupid enough not to back up the TBB file before I let TB! "repair" the message base. The result: One part0001.bin of 43 MB and _15_ months of mail lost! I think the "repair" s

Re: Wish: HTML inline forwarding

2004-11-10 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello hggdh & everyone else on 10-Nov-2004 at 22:23:49 (GMT +0100), you wrote: > Well, it *does* make sense not to use HTML. Given that most HTML > rendering is done by the MS-supplied DLLs (maybe TB! has it's own, I do > not know), I am really, really, not willing to see HTML-based e-mails...

Re: Tray icon has incorrect message count

2004-11-10 Thread Boris Anders
Hello Martin, Sunday, November 7, 2004, 21:00 you wrote at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I'll submit a BR tonight or first thing tomorrow. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4043 -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current

Re: Wish: HTML inline forwarding

2004-11-10 Thread hggdh
Tony Boom wrote: Problem is so many people on this and the other lists fought long and hard to keep html of any description out of TB! completely. So whatever html capability TB! has is a bonus whether wrong or right. I'm not saying I agree one way or t'other but that's how it was. Well, it *does*

Re: Wish: HTML inline forwarding

2004-11-10 Thread Tony Boom
Hello John, A reminder of what John Thomas typed on: 10 November 2004 at 21:43:55 GMT +0100 JT> IMHO, TB! has it wrong here Problem is so many people on this and the other lists fought long and hard to keep html of any description out of TB! completely. So whatever html capability TB! has is

Re: Wish: HTML inline forwarding

2004-11-10 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Alexander, A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on: 10 November 2004 at 17:13:02 GMT +0100 ASK> Was that message HTML only? Maybe thats a clue, I haven't tried that. Ah, you never mentioned mixed content, just html. The message I tried it on after reading your post was from a G

Re: Threading ?

2004-11-10 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Alexander, A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on: 10 November 2004 at 21:41:48 GMT +0100 ASK> Oh, there's a couple of mail client that offer good threading ASK> functionality. No, not talking about threading. You said: ASK> threading by References will most likely be broken s

Re: Wish: HTML inline forwarding

2004-11-10 Thread John Thomas
Hello Alexander, Tuesday (November 9, 2004, 11:59 AM) you wrote: ASK> as discussed on TBUDL (see subj.): ASK> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4036 Because of the apparent lack of clarity in the other branch of this thread, I would like to reiterate and clarify this request. In popular e

Re: Threading ?

2004-11-10 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Tony Boom & everyone else on 10-Nov-2004 at 21:21:37 (GMT +0100), you wrote: > Even with gmail :) Nope - your mails are sorted in just fine. :-) > But there's a reason for that and I don't think you could do it with any > other client. Oh, there's a couple of mail client that offer good

Re: Threading ?

2004-11-10 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Alexander, A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on: 10 November 2004 at 21:09:10 GMT +0100 ASK> someone replying some trashy webmailer (hotmail), the AOL client, ASK> or whatever ... *sigh* ASK> But here, in our (near) perfect *g* little Batworld, its working Even with gmail :)

Re: Threading ?

2004-11-10 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Tony Boom & everyone else on 10-Nov-2004 at 20:55:05 (GMT +0100), you wrote: > I'll give it a few days and I'll probably get used to it. It's just that > I tried it once when it was first introduced into TB and it didn't work > too well and this is the first time since then. The result dep

Re: Threading ?

2004-11-10 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Tony, A reminder of what Tony Boom typed on: 10 November 2004 at 17:56:57 GMT +0100 TB> Instead of the filter kicking in when I read a message and tuning my TB> post red, it doesn't kick in until I read ALL the post in a thread Not only do ALL my posts in the thread turn red when the l

Re: Threading ?

2004-11-10 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Alexander, A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on: 10 November 2004 at 20:22:09 GMT +0100 ASK> Of course, it depends on what you're used to. I'll give it a few days and I'll probably get used to it. It's just that I tried it once when it was first introduced into TB and it didn

Re: Threading ?

2004-11-10 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Tony Boom & everyone else on 10-Nov-2004 at 18:34:43 (GMT +0100), you wrote: ASK>> I couldn't live without threading, really. :-) > I'll give it a try for a few days but I'm not impressed. Of course, it depends on what you're used to. Threading saves me so much time. Certain discussions

Re: Threading ?

2004-11-10 Thread Jernej Simoncic
On Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 17:08:52, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: > It's what happens when someone hits reply to start a new topic and is > against list rules and the person who did it was rewarded with a > trout. IMHO, TB should offer an option to break thread on subject change... ( Hint, hin

Re: Threading ?

2004-11-10 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Marcus, A reminder of what Marcus Ohlström typed on: 10 November 2004 at 18:51:20 GMT +0100 MO> If nothing else, at least you will enjoy the ease with MO> which you can ignore parts of a discussion Now that appeals to me, especially when it comes to IMAP or what day of the week M

Re: Threading ?

2004-11-10 Thread Marcus Ohlström
On Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 18:34, Tony Boom wrote: ASK>> The "unread" coloring (bold) in threading is a bit different. It ASK>> simply indicates that "somewhere" in the thread is an unread ASK>> message. > I can see the logic in that. Make sure you enable the column "Message flags". The l

Re: Threading ?

2004-11-10 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Alexander, A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on: 10 November 2004 at 18:05:19 GMT +0100 ASK> The "unread" coloring (bold) in threading is a bit different. It simply ASK> indicates that "somewhere" in the thread is an unread message. I can see the logic in that. ASK> I couldn'

Re: Threading ?

2004-11-10 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Tony Boom & everyone else on 10-Nov-2004 at 17:56:54 (GMT +0100), you wrote: > That's not how I was expecting it to work, I keep going back and > re-reading post's that appear unread. The "unread" coloring (bold) in threading is a bit different. It simply indicates that "somewhere" in the

Re: Threading ?

2004-11-10 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Tony, A reminder of what Tony Boom typed on: 10 November 2004 at 17:50:37 GMT +0100 TB> Is that a bug with threading or my filter? I worked it out and I find it very strange behaviour. Instead of the filter kicking in when I read a message and tuning my post red, it doesn't kick in unt

Re: Threading ?

2004-11-10 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Alexander, A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on: 10 November 2004 at 17:15:56 GMT +0100 ASK> He got fish! Sorry Fabio, didn't mean to drop you in it. I feel like a bit of a grass now. -- Best regards,Tony. _

Re: Threading ?

2004-11-10 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Marck, A reminder of what Marck D Pearlstone typed on: 10 November 2004 at 17:09:35 GMT +0100 MDP> It's what happens when someone hits reply to start a new topic and is MDP> against list rules and the person who did it was rewarded with a MDP> trout. I didn't mean to get anyone into t

Re: Threading ?

2004-11-10 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Martin Webster & everyone else on 10-Nov-2004 at 17:07:55 (GMT +0100), you wrote: TB>> Never used threading by reference before, is it supposed to work as in TB>> the image? IE: Stick them anywhere even if they don't fit? > Yes... Regarding Tony's question, I'd rather say: NO! :-) > But

Re: Wish: HTML inline forwarding

2004-11-10 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Tony Boom & everyone else on 10-Nov-2004 at 09:51:27 (GMT +0100), you wrote: ASK>> When I redirect a message I want it to appear exactly as it was, and ASK>> not as a clumsy .eml or .msg attachment to a plain text mail. > There must be something wrong with my setup then. Wrong? Well... :

Re: Threading ?

2004-11-10 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Tony, On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:02:46 +GMT (10-11-2004, 17:02 +0100, where I live), you wrote: TB> Never used threading by reference before, is it supposed to work TB> as in the image? Yes. TB> IE: Stick them anywhere even if they don't fit? The message that "doesn't fit" is a message t

Re: Threading ?

2004-11-10 Thread Marcus Ohlström
On Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 17:02, Tony Boom wrote: > Never used threading by reference before, is it supposed to work > as in the image? IE: Stick them anywhere even if they don't fit? No, but that is the fault of Fabio Cipparone. Instead of creating a new mail, he obviously answer

Re: Threading ?

2004-11-10 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Tony, @10-Nov-2004, 16:02 Tony Boom [TB] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBBETA: TB> Never used threading by reference before, is it supposed to work as TB> in the image? IE: Stick them anywhere even if they don't fit? It's what happens when someone hits reply to start a new topic

Re: Threading ?

2004-11-10 Thread Martin Webster
Tony Boom [TB], wrote: TB> Never used threading by reference before, is it supposed to work as TB> in the image? IE: Stick them anywhere even if they don't fit? Yes... But Fabio Cipparone started a new topic by hitting reply instead of new message. -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 "The wo

Mod: Reply for new thread (was: Bayes it error)

2004-11-10 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Fabio, On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:47:35 +0100GMT (10-11-2004, 13:47 +0100, where I live), you wrote: FC> What does the error in the log mean? Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this r

Threading ?

2004-11-10 Thread Tony Boom
Hello TBBETA, Never used threading by reference before, is it supposed to work as in the image? IE: Stick them anywhere even if they don't fit? -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 10/11/2004 at 16:

Re: Bayes it error

2004-11-10 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello Fabio, This would seem to be the two lines of interest here: FC> 05.11.2004 20:19:42 Non-spam frequency dictionary: FC> 05.11.2004 20:19:42 Error loading file. May be it is corrupted or lost. It sounds like the file that holds the "non-spam" info us corrupted (it might also be missing, but

Filters

2004-11-10 Thread Tony Boom
Hello TBBETA, Just tried an experiment. I made a backup using TB!'s internal backup from this PC which is running the On-The-Fly version. I then installed 3026 onto another machine and used the backup from this PC to restore in an attempt to see if restoring from a back up created b

Re: Unstable/unusable Beta Series :-(

2004-11-10 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Chris, On Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:25 our local time, Chris Weaven [CW] wrote; MW>>> But I have had similar problems and managed to solve them by MW>>> clearing the local cache. CW> I'll give that a try and see how it goes, but this is even happening on CW> one of my accounts where I'v

Re: Unstable/unusable Beta Series :-(

2004-11-10 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Alexander, On Wednesday, November 10, 2004 13:35 your local time, which was 12:35 my local time, Alexander Kunz [ASK] wrote; ASK> Other ideas... ASK> - have you tried a complete folder maintenance? Yup. ASK> - complete backup/uninstall/restore (with the built-in backup/restore, ASK> take ca

Bayes it error

2004-11-10 Thread Fabio Cipparone
What does the error in the log mean? 05.11.2004 20:19:42 Checking of this base is completed. 05.11.2004 20:19:42 Refreshing main 'spam' dictionary by recalculated one. 05.11.2004 20:19:42 All autotraining process completed. 05.11.2004 20:19:42 Beginning the loading process of training information.

Re: Unstable/unusable Beta Series :-(

2004-11-10 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Chris, Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 1:11:37 PM, you wrote: ASK>> Are you using HTML? > Nope, no HTML here. OK. Well, it was worth a thought... ASK>> I usually turn off that stupid error reporting feature, its ASK>> nothing but an annoyance. :) > I agree, but why is TB! crashing to cau

Re: Unstable/unusable Beta Series :-(

2004-11-10 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Chris, On Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:16 our local time, Chris Weaven [CW] wrote; Sorry, sent the last message too soon. MW>> But I have had similar problems and managed to solve them by MW>> clearing the local cache. I'll give that a try and see how it goes, but this is even happening o

Re: Unstable/unusable Beta Series :-(

2004-11-10 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Martin, On Tuesday, November 9, 2004 17:40 our local time, Martin Webster [MW] wrote; CW>> IMAP is also proving testing; MW> Sorry to hear this... quite a different experience for me now. But I MW> have had similar problems and managed to solve them by clearing the MW> local cache. This resol

Re[2]: Unstable/unusable Beta Series :-(

2004-11-10 Thread Christian Grams
CW> I'm still consistently getting these AV's along with TB! randomly CW> crashing and Windows asking if I want to send an error report. CW> I'm not even using TB! when it happens, it's just running in the CW> background. I can´t confirm that for my TB! It works perfectly except the problem des

Re: Unstable/unusable Beta Series :-(

2004-11-10 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Alexander, On Tuesday, November 9, 2004 18:42 your local time, which was 17:42 my local time, Alexander Kunz [ASK] wrote; ASK> Are you using HTML? Nope, no HTML here. >> Also, TB! would randomly crash. Again, I was working away here and then >> I'd get the windows message asking if I wanted

Re: Unstable/unusable Beta Series :-(

2004-11-10 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Tony, On Tuesday, November 9, 2004 18:24 our local time, Tony Boom [TB] wrote; TB> Program is using 18,688k and the CPU shows 00 at the time I'm writing TB> this. Program is currently using about 25,000k, but when at 100% CPU usage, it can sometimes go as high as 75,000k forcing me to use tas

Re: Unstable/unusable Beta Series :-(

2004-11-10 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Christian, On Tuesday, November 9, 2004 18:31 your local time, which was 17:31 my local time, Christian Grams [CG] wrote; CW>> AV's all reading the same; CW>> AV address = 00975BFC CW>> Module = thebat.exe CW>> Read address = 00B8 CG> I can comfirm this - but with another problem i sudde

Re: Wish: HTML inline forwarding

2004-11-10 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Alexander, A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on: 10 November 2004 at 07:58:01 GMT +0100 ASK> When I redirect a message I want it to appear exactly as ASK> it was, and not as a clumsy .eml or .msg attachment to a plain text ASK> mail. There must be something wrong with my set