Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 05:21:11 +0300 vitalie vrabie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, be a RealMan™ when this FemaleLogic® animal tells ya you CANNOT do any transfers with an expired certificate. :) Those who say cannot do should step aside for those who just do: You can indeed do transfers with an

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-10 Thread vitalie vrabie
Thomas Fernandez wrote: so, be a RealMan™ when this FemaleLogic® animal tells ya you CANNOT do any transfers with an expired certificate. :) Those who say cannot do should step aside for those who just do: You can indeed do transfers with an expired cert, unless the email software says

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-07 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Thursday, June 7, 2007, 12:19:45 PM, Goncalo Farias wrote: Nonetheless, I agree that one shouldn't have the possibility to edit a received message. I've seen that one is now able to remove attachments from a received message. Personally I don't like that. once you concede they should be

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-07 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello Goncalo On Thursday, June 7, 2007 you wrote: I've seen that one is now able to remove attachments from a received message. Personally I don't like that. They key is ABLE. You can choose. I persoanlly LIKE to be able to remove attachments especially from Incredimail users :)) -- Rick The

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-07 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello vitalie On Wednesday, June 6, 2007 you wrote: and further on with psychology, it means they're completely ruled by their wives at home? In my house *** I *** am the captain of the ship ... but I know who the admiral is :)) -- Rick The Bat Version 3.99.8

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-07 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick Grunwald wrote: In my house *** I *** am the captain of the ship sure. and it's YOUR duty to navigate around expired certificates and other sort of underwater rocks. ... but I know who the admiral is :)) mmm... Ritlabs? or Mother Nature, that 'stated' that rocks could deadly

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-07 Thread George M. Menegakis
Hello Rick, In my house *** I *** am the captain of the ship ... but I know who the admiral is Real men always have the last word.. Yes, dear! :-) -- George M. Menegakis Using The Bat v3.99.3 on Windows XP Service Pack 2

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-07 Thread vitalie vrabie
George M. Menegakis wrote: Real men always have the last word.. Yes, dear! :-) exactly. so, be a RealMan™ when this FemaleLogic® animal tells ya you CANNOT do any transfers with an expired certificate. :) ...or don't fear the expenses of the divorce, considering the benefits of

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-06 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Saturday, June 2, 2007, 8:54:04 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Ritlabs is of the opinion that that it is in your best interest if they deny you the option of accepting an expired certificate. They have a strong paternalistic streak. Lots like not letting one edit messages after receipt. --

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-06 Thread vitalie vrabie
Dwight A Corrin wrote: Ritlabs is of the opinion that that it is in your best interest if they deny you the option of accepting an expired certificate. They have a strong paternalistic streak. and further on with psychology, it means they're completely ruled by their wives at home? --

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-03 Thread vitalie vrabie
Jim Brown wrote: I can see RitLabs Point... BUT after 30+ years of Eng and support experience I'd have to second the suggestion that Alerting a User is Imperative... Denying a (knowledgeable) user after the Alert is excessive and Not in the best interest of the user OR product :(

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello vitalie, On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 02:48:12 +0300 GMT (04/06/2007, 06:48 +0700 GMT), vitalie vrabie wrote: I can see RitLabs Point... BUT after 30+ years of Eng and support experience I'd have to second the suggestion that Alerting a User is Imperative... Denying a (knowledgeable)

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-03 Thread vitalie vrabie
Thomas Fernandez wrote: vv AFAIR, Max commented on this already. if your user is qualified indeed, vv he/she'd put something like stunnel. Does Max want to call each sysad and remind him to please update his cert, as otherwise TB!-users are unable to do their mailing? why don't you

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-02 Thread Jim Brown
Hi Folks, 6/1/2007, 14:00:36: FETCH - Certificate S/N: 432AECC1000303CF, algorithm: RSA (1024 bits), issued from 27 Mar 2006 to 27 Mar 2008, for 1 host(s): email.cisco.com. 6/1/2007, 14:00:36: FETCH - Owner: US, CA, San Jose, CIsco Systems, EMS, email.cisco.com. 6/1/2007, 14:00:36: FETCH -

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jim, On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 13:57:32 -0400 GMT (03/06/2007, 00:57 +0700 GMT), Jim Brown wrote: A secure connection to the server could not be established. Account: 'email.cisco.com', Server: 'email.cisco.com', Protocol: POP3, Port: 995, Secure(SSL): Yes, Error Number: 0x800CCC1A JB JB

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-02 Thread Rick Grunwald
So, that's why folks who need to accept an expired certificate and really know what they are doing, cannot use TB! but must use Outlook. I'm a bit sad that Ritlabs is not interested in those customers who know what they are doing any more. Can this be true? -- Rick The Bat Version 3.99.8

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-02 Thread Jim Brown
Hi Thomas, JBThough Outlook would have let me ignore this fault... :) JBSorry to bother the list... Ritlabs is of the opinion that that it is in your best interest if they deny you the option of accepting an expired certificate. They say that they have heard of a grandmother who

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Rick, On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 22:06:00 -0400 GMT (03/06/2007, 09:06 +0700 GMT), Rick Grunwald wrote: So, that's why folks who need to accept an expired certificate and really know what they are doing, cannot use TB! but must use Outlook. I'm a bit sad that Ritlabs is not interested in those

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-02 Thread Charlie Kroeger
Thomas Fernandez wrote: So, that's why folks who need to accept an expired certificate and really know what they are doing, cannot use TB! but must use Outlook. or Icedove.. -- C.K. Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA'