1/25/2006 8:41 AM
Hi Alto,
On 1/25/2006 Alto Speckhardt wrote:
AS> There has been no violation of list policy discernible to me.
Discernment is preceded by recognition and acknowledgement. It takes a
lot longer to clear the air than it does to blow smoke.
--
Take Care,
Paul
The Bat! v.3.65.
Hi,
RO> What part of
RO> ,-
RO> | This topic has become far too heated and I am forced to pronounce it
RO> | dead.
RO> `-
RO> was too difficult to understand?
Excuse me very much, but apparently any part of my message (I don't
know how to insert a reference; I'm refering to my message of
On Tuesday, January 24, 2006, 6:12:57 PM, Dwight A Corrin wrote:
DAC> which of your problems have been confirmed by others? because I can't
DAC> confirm any of the ones listed today.
Hi Dwight:
Please see this thread:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and also see the BT report:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view
Hello Jon,
> Stefan reports this as fixed - I assure you (and Stefan) that it is
> not. The problem can reliably be reproduced on my end. I use POP so
> IMAP is not the problem.
full confirmed, still the same slow redraw problem here.
POP3 only - WinXP P4/2.4Mhz 1GB-RAM /MatroxG550
--
Best reg
Hallo Alto,
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:05:11 +0100GMT (24-1-2006, 19:05 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:
AS> Any due respect nonwithholding,
What part of
,-
| This topic has become far too heated and I am forced to pronounce it
| dead.
`-
was too difficult to understand?
I'm seeing a thre
On Tuesday, January 24, 2006, 2:18:48 PM, Alto Speckhardt wrote:
> Done. Now I'm berating again.
which of your problems have been confirmed by others? because I can't
confirm any of the ones listed today.
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928 S Broadway
Wichita KS 67211
316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568
dcorri
On Tuesday, January 24, 2006, 3:03:02 PM, Paul Van Noord wrote:
PVN> I run Voyager on a PIII 750 w/ 1 gig RAM and the flash drive connected
PVN> to a USB 1.1 port (motherboard is too old for USB 2) and experience
PVN> nothing like you describe. May I suggest you carefully examine your
PVN> facilit
1/24/2006 3:47 PM
Hi Nick,
On 1/24/2006 Nick Danger wrote:
ND> Just for balance, I run voyager via a USB 2 port and on shutting down
ND> the USB drive light remains on for nearly five minutes before TB
ND> completely unloads.
This a valid comparison between you and me except that you are using
1/24/2006 3:47 PM
Hi Nick,
On 1/24/2006 Nick Danger wrote:
ND> Just for balance, I run voyager via a USB 2 port and on shutting down
ND> the USB drive light remains on for nearly five minutes before TB
ND> completely unloads.
This a valid comparison between you and me except that you are using
Guten Morgen,
PVN> May I suggest you carefully examine your facilities and fix what
PVN> is wrong before berating RIT for your local problems.
Done. Now I'm berating again.
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MfG,
Alto
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Reply to message sent 01/24/2006, @ 15:03:02 (2:03 PM Locally)
~~~
Hello Paul,
> I run Voyager on a PIII 750 w/ 1 gig RAM and the flash drive connected
> to a USB 1.1 port (motherboard is too old for USB 2) and experience
> nothing like
1/24/2006 2:56 PM
Hi Alto,
On 1/24/2006 Alto Speckhardt wrote:
AS> Ok. I'm experiencing very different times. On my laptop that is
AS> connected via WLAN (11 MBit)it usually takes well above five minutes.
AS> If I try shutdown Windows the "not responding" window is coming up. I
AS> usually igno
Guten Morgen,
>> Starting TheBat here takes about 20 seconds. That I can live with.
M> With the /nologo option here it is at most 5 seconds.
Maybe the difference can be attributed to the fact that my mailbase
resides on a network drive. Whatever, that really isn't my problem.
>> Closing TheBat
Hello Alto,
> Then we obviously have some difference in our systems that's worth
> tracking down:
>
> Starting TheBat here takes about 20 seconds. That I can live with.
With the /nologo option here it is at most 5 seconds.
> Closing TheBat only apears to be almost instantanious, the thebat.exe
>
Hello Alto,
>>> As I can see, the quality and usability of TheBat has been degrading
>>> since v3.0.1.33 with frightening continuity.
M>> That is, quite obviously, just an opinion. Not a fact.
>
> I'd call it an observation.
Maybe. But observations may vary depending on the colour of the glasses
Hi,
>> c.) the startup and exit times of TheBat have, if anything, further
>> degraded with this beta version.
M> Not here, Alto. Not at all.
Then we obviously have some difference in our systems that's worth
tracking down:
Starting TheBat here takes about 20 seconds. That I can live with.
Clos
Hi,
>> As I can see, the quality and usability of TheBat has been degrading
>> since v3.0.1.33 with frightening continuity.
M> That is, quite obviously, just an opinion. Not a fact.
I'd call it an observation.
--
MfG,
Alto
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Hello Alto,
> c.) the startup and exit times of TheBat have, if anything, further
> degraded with this beta version.
Not here, Alto. Not at all.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.70.02 Qigong(Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2
_
Hello Alto,
> As I can see, the quality and usability of TheBat has been degrading
> since v3.0.1.33 with frightening continuity.
That is, quite obviously, just an opinion. Not a fact.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.70.02 Qigong(Beta) on Windows XP 5.1
Hi,
AS>> There was a beta version released and I reported bugs in it.
PVN> If only this were the whole story
That's absolutly right. As I can see, the quality and usability of
TheBat has been degrading since v3.0.1.33 with frightening continuity.
That even previously working features are bee
On Monday, January 23, 2006 @ 11:01:02 AM [-0700], Cees wrote:
> Btw, what does Qigong mean? Nice name though.
I could have sworn it is the first name of Obi-Wan Kanobi's original
Jedi Master.
--
Matt
Using 3.65.03
__
Hi,
AS>> There was a beta version released and I reported bugs in it.
RO> Actually you reported that a discontinued feature was discontinued for
RO> the umptieth time. Please consider that topic dead horsed. The rest of
RO> the thread with with the above mentioned subject can continue.
Any due re
On Tuesday, January 24, 2006, 10:58:50 AM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
>> IMAP
> I sometimes wish people would alter the subject to the content of the
> message... so that my ignore filter can kick in. ;-)
I agree. But don't single out IMAP users. I'd like to ignore things
which are strictly POP pr
Hallo Alto,
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:46:58 +0100GMT (24-1-2006, 17:46 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
AS> There was a beta version released and I reported bugs in it.
Actually you reported that a discontinued feature was discontinued for
the umptieth time. Please consider that topic dead horsed.
1/24/2006 12:07 PM
Hi Alto,
On 1/24/2006 Alto Speckhardt wrote:
AS> There was a beta version released and I reported bugs in it.
If only this were the whole story
--
Take Care,
Paul
The Bat! v.3.65.02 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195
No IMAP No OTFE Opera 8.51
Hello Alto Speckhardt & everyone else,
on 24-Jan-2006 at 15:07 you (Alto Speckhardt) wrote:
> There still is no autowidth-option
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Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981)
The product of mental labor-science always stands far below it's
value
Hello Curtis & everyone else,
on 24-Jan-2006 at 00:40 you (Curtis) wrote:
> IMAP
I sometimes wish people would alter the subject to the content of the
message... so that my ignore filter can kick in. ;-)
--
Best regards,
Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981)
I tell you that I c
Hi,
PVN> My user agreement doesn't mandate a work-around, does yours?
There was a beta version released and I reported bugs in it. Do you
have a problem with that?
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MfG,
Alto
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Curtis,
> On 23/1/2006 at 10:53:15 PM [GMT -0500], Keith Russell wrote:
>> The Bat! seems to have real problems deleting IMAP messages. I haven't
>> seen this reported here, but may have missed it. If I try to delete a
>> message in TB!, sometimes it disappears from the folder immediately,
>> bu
1/24/2006 11:25 AM
Hi Alto,
On 1/24/2006 Alto Speckhardt wrote:
AS> Hi,
>>> No improvements.
AS> Still fact.
>>> There still is no autowidth-option
MM>> do You read messages from 9Val or You read only what You want?
>>> That option will not return (in near expected future)
AS> I have read
Hi,
>> No improvements.
Still fact.
>> There still is no autowidth-option
MM> do You read messages from 9Val or You read only what You want?
>> That option will not return (in near expected future)
I have read that very well. What 9Val failed to do was to offer a
workaround. Even the ideas th
Hello all,
Tuesday, January 24, 2006, Alto Speckhardt wrote:
> No improvements.
> There still is no autowidth-option
do You read messages from 9Val or You read only what You want?
> That option will not return (in near expected future)
--
Bye
Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
http://www
Hi,
9> The Bat! 3.70.02 "Qigong" is now available from:
9> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/
No improvements.
There still is no autowidth-option, the view-mode-tabs still don't
work, and startup and exit of the program are as slow as ever.
--
MfG,
Alto
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Hello Ming,
Tuesday, January 24, 2006, 3:07:51 AM, you wrote:
9>> Being with us you'll at least increase your skill in Oriental
9>> Philosophy ;)
> Does it means that this beta cycle is focus on improving asian charset
> support?
maybe.
and, as an energy-related breathing technique i
On Monday, January 23, 2006, 19:53:00, 9Val wrote:
> The Bat! 3.70.02 "Qigong" is now available from:
> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/
Looks like the IMAP crashing problem is fixed.
--
< Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://deepthought.ena.si/ &
On 24/1/2006 at 5:12:56 AM [GMT -0500], Peter Fjelsten wrote:
> There definitely is a problem with keeping the local cache in a
> synchronised state.
Fixable since it wasn't always that way.
> This is my No. 2 problem (No. 1 is remote outbox
> issues).
I'm yet to use another IMAP client that us
Curtis,
On 24-01-2006 11:06, you [C] wrote in
:
C> My problem is with TB! refreshing/updating its local cache to remove
C> messages deleted using another client. It will update the various
C> other message flags. However, it will not remove the deleted
C> messages.
There definitely is a problem w
On 23/1/2006 at 10:53:15 PM [GMT -0500], Keith Russell wrote:
> The Bat! seems to have real problems deleting IMAP messages. I haven't
> seen this reported here, but may have missed it. If I try to delete a
> message in TB!, sometimes it disappears from the folder immediately,
> but more frequentl
Hi All
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 at 21:25:01 + David Elliott wrote about The Bat!
3.70.02 "Qigong" is now available
>> The Bat! 3.70.02 "Qigong" is now available from:
>> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/
>
> Well I will see if this breaths a bit of life
> Btw, what does Qigong mean? Nice name though.
It's a form of exercise, also known as Chi Gong. As it happens, I
teach Chi Gong as part of the Tai Chi classes I teach.
--
Stuart Hemming
Using The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.4, MyGate v1.0,
Hello Greg,
>> No bugs = no changes = no work.
>> Unfortunately...
G> Now we know the truth as to why you introduce all those new features. :)
Is in my words any narrowing to new features only? ;)
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Curtis,
On 24-01-2006 00:40, you [C] wrote in
:
C> The already deleted messages just sit there, even if I exit and
C> re-open the Inbox. I do a compress and nothing happens. I finally do
C> a purge and compress and nothing happens until I exit and re-open the
C> Inbox.
The same happens here - som
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Hello 9Val,
Monday, January 23, 2006, 6:53:00 PM, you wrote:
> The Bat! 3.70.02 "Qigong" is now available from:
> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/
Well I will see if this breaths a bit of life into the working's of
Exchange
Hello, fellow Bat-lovers.
On Monday, January 23, 2006 at 18:40:34GMT -0500 (which was 4:40
PM where I live) Curtis wrote and made these points on the
subject of "The Bat! 3.70.02 "Qigong" is now available":
> If I leave messages in my Inbox, exit TB! and then use another
Monday, January 23, 2006, 8:01:02 PM, you wrote:
> Btw, what does Qigong mean? Nice name though.
At first I thought they mean _Qui-Gon_ Jinn, the Jedi master from Star
Wars :D
Guess it's just in a geek's nature.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello 9Val,
Tuesday, January 24, 2006, 3:22:54 AM, you wrote:
9> Being with us you'll at least increase your skill in Oriental
9> Philosophy ;)
Does it means that this beta cycle is focus on improving asian charset support?
--
Best regards,
Ming Changmailt
Hi Curtis,
--On Monday, January 23, 2006 6:40 PM -0500 you wrote in part:
However, there's one bug that remains.
If I leave messages in my Inbox, exit TB! and then use another client to
delete them, TB! will still display the deleted messages on reopening
the Inbox via TB!. The already deleted
On 23/1/2006 at 1:53:00 PM [GMT -0500], 9val wrote:
> [-] IMAP: moving to local folders
> [-] IMAP: possible AV on exit
> [-] IMAP: message list retrieval
> [-] IMAP: minor changes
So far, IMAP doesn't seem to have gone in reverse in any way. This is
good.
Hi 9Val,
Tuesday, January 24, 2006
you let us know -possibly edited- :
> No bugs = no changes = no work.
> Unfortunately...
Well said :) So keep on healing the broken wings! :)
==> HTML support is no real joy yet, IMAP for professional use is
reported to be a PITA. I noticed with pleasure that
Hello Charlene,
CF> Well, it is fixed and I hope this bug will never resurrect -many old,
CF> long time ago fixed bugs suddenly reoccur in a new version.
No bugs = no changes = no work.
Unfortunately...
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9Val
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Hi 9Val,
Monday, January 23, 2006
you let us know -possibly edited- :
> Should be 'is yet working' ;)
Yes, and this from the very beginning! Gr ;)
Can you imagine how it feels if all your text-based filters are broken?
Well, it is fixed and I hope this bug will never resurrect -many old,
l
Hi Charlene,
CF> BTW: Folder maintenance runs fast, search in text is still working. ;)
Should be 'is yet working' ;)
--
9Val
Current beta is 3.70.02 "Qigong" | 'Using
9Val,
A big thank you for your focus on IMAP.
On 23-01-2006 19:53, you [9] wrote in
:
9> [-] IMAP: moving to local folders
9> [-] IMAP: possible AV on exit
9> [-] IMAP: message list retrieval
9> [-] IMAP: minor changes
Have only been running it for 10 ins
Hello 9Val!
On Monday, January 23, 2006, 12:53 PM, you wrote:
> The Bat! 3.70.02 "Qigong" is now available from:
> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/
Up and running, peacefully and skillfully. ;)
And well in time for ushering in the Year of the Dog on January 29,
2006, Gr
Hi 9Val,
Monday, January 23, 2006
you let us know -possibly edited- :
CF>> Since Rit knows you're way too old for a Pranayama-Party with the girl
CF>> next door they switched to another method...
> ... which could be practiced with girl next door :P
Teach us the way to exercise those calistheni
Hello Cees,
C> Btw, what does Qigong mean? Nice name though.
:)
Being with us you'll at least increase your skill in Oriental
Philosophy ;)
--
9Val
Current
Hi Cees,
>Up and running here too... Also I too was curious... at least one
>definition would be...;
>
>> 'Qigong' is the key component of traditional Chinese medicine with a
>> history of five thousand years (in record), which can be divided
>> approximately into four major periods...
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, at 20:53:00 [GMT +0200] (which was 19:53 where I
live) 9val wrote:
> The Bat! 3.70.02 "Qigong" is now available from:
> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/
Up and running with OTFE (no imap).
Just did maintenance and backup without problems.
--
H
Hi Cees,
> up and running!
...
> Btw, what does Qigong mean? Nice name though.
Up and running here too... Also I too was curious... at least one
definition would be...;
> 'Qigong' is the key component of traditional Chinese medicine with a
> history of five thousand years (in record), wh
Hi 9Val,
Monday, January 23, 2006
you let us know -possibly edited- :
> The Bat! 3.70.02 "Qigong" is now available...
Up and running, so far no problems.
Cees wrote:
> Btw, what does Qigong mean? Nice name though.
Since Rit knows you're way too old for a Pranayama-Par
Het was op maandag 23 januari 2006 om 19:53 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'The
Bat! 3.70.02 "Qigong" is now available' :
Hoi 9Val,
9> The Bat! 3.70.02 "Qigong" is now available from:
9> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/
up and running!
A
Hello All,
The Bat! 3.70.02 "Qigong" is now available from:
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/
Here is a short list of changes:
[+] Outlook Import and Exchange MAPI: added support for attached
RFC-822-messages embedded as ATTACH_EMBEDDED_MSG.
[-] Exchange MAP
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