Re: Upload to IMAP folder broken

2009-09-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim, On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:36:08 +0300 GMT (18/Sep/09, 16:36 PM +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: I meanwhile submitted it to Bugtrack: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7723 MM Thank you very much, but we won't fix anything in the current MM IMAP implementation. LOL! we won't

Re: Upload to IMAP folder broken

2009-09-19 Thread Carsten Guthardt-Schulz
Hello Thomas, While I don't agree that POP is the past, Why not? There is general agreement that mobility is the future, everything goes mobile. People (will) access their email from their PC at home, their laptop, their netbook, their iPhone (or other smartphone), their TV, their cordless

Re: Upload to IMAP folder broken

2009-09-19 Thread Rick
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:02:48 +0200, Volker Ahrendt wrote: We will release the completely new IMAP implementation that will have no bugs previously reported. In other words the new implementation will have brandnew bugs? Cool! Yes, and when that finally happens the sole surviving Beta! tester

Re: Upload to IMAP folder broken

2009-09-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Carsten, On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:02:07 +0200 GMT (20/Sep/09, 1:02 AM +0700 GMT), Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote: While I don't agree that POP is the past, CGS Why not? There is general agreement that mobility is the future, CGS everything goes mobile. People (will) access their email from

Re: MESSAGE LOSS (was: Upload to IMAP folder broken)

2009-09-18 Thread Carsten Guthardt-Schulz
Hello Dwight, Thursday, September 17, 2009, 7:38:12 PM, you wrote: If youi mean that you cannot move messages from a local folder to an IMAP folder, I don't know why one would do that. That's exactly what I mean. You right-click on the message (in the message list) of the local

Re: Upload to IMAP folder broken

2009-09-18 Thread Carsten Guthardt-Schulz
I meanwhile submitted it to Bugtrack: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7723 -- Best regards, Carstenmailto:gutha...@gmail.com Current beta is 4.2.10.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re[2]: Upload to IMAP folder broken

2009-09-18 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Carsten, Friday, September 18, 2009, 9:51:24 AM, you wrote: I meanwhile submitted it to Bugtrack: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7723 Thank you very much, but we won't fix anything in the current IMAP implementation. We will release the completely new IMAP implementation that

Re: Upload to IMAP folder broken

2009-09-18 Thread Kertész Vilmos
I meanwhile submitted it to Bugtrack: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7723 Thank you very much, but we won't fix anything in the current IMAP implementation. We will release the completely new IMAP implementation that will have no bugs previously reported. Simple question: when? Gives

Re: Upload to IMAP folder broken

2009-09-18 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Kertész, A reminder of what Kertész Vilmos typed on: Friday, September 18, 2009 at 12:56:16 GMT +0200 KV Simple question: when? Gives us some hope... Yes please. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Using The Bat! v4.2.10.9 On Windows

Re: Upload to IMAP folder broken

2009-09-18 Thread Neal Laugman
Maxim and group, on Friday, September 18, 2009 at 1:36 AM you wrote: Thank you very much, but we won't fix anything in the current IMAP implementation. We will release the completely new IMAP implementation that will have no bugs previously reported. And there was a glimmer of happiness

Re: Upload to IMAP folder broken

2009-09-18 Thread Jens Franik
am Freitag, 18. September 2009 um 11:36 schrieb Maxim Masiutin: We will release the completely new IMAP implementation KV Simple question: when? Gives us some hope... Yes please. If it is possible, i would also like to get a little timeline for that - that would be much hope for us

Re: Upload to IMAP folder broken

2009-09-18 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Maxim Masiutin« · 2009-09-18 · 11:36 h (CET)] Moin, Maxim! We will release the completely new IMAP implementation that will have no bugs previously reported. In other words the new implementation will have brandnew bugs? – Cool! SCNR! ;-) Cheers! VA - -- Volker Ahrendt |

Re: Upload to IMAP folder broken

2009-09-18 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Stuart Cuddy« · 2009-09-18 · 14:53 h (CET)] Moin, Stuart! [IMAP rework] Simple question: when? Gives us some hope... Yes please. Simple answer: Next release[1]! Cheers! VA [1] Which is not interrupted by an unexpected bugfix release. - -- Volker Ahrendt | q...@ahrendt.net

Re: Upload to IMAP folder broken

2009-09-18 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:02:48 +0200, Volker Ahrendt wrote: We will release the completely new IMAP implementation that will have no bugs previously reported. In other words the new implementation will have brandnew bugs? Cool! Yes, and when that finally happens the sole surviving Beta! tester

Re: Upload to IMAP folder broken

2009-09-17 Thread Carsten Guthardt-Schulz
Hello Robert, Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 8:44:54 PM, you wrote: The option I would use if I had to do it again would be to export the folder from The Bat! as a Unix mailbox file and do the move on the server side -- much faster than doing it via TB!. But I guess it is not really an

MESSAGE LOSS (was: Upload to IMAP folder broken)

2009-09-17 Thread Carsten Guthardt-Schulz
Hello Robert, You know what's funny: The Bat DOES continue uploaden the messages, but without showing it in the Connection Centre! I noticed this morning that a folder where the upload was aborted yesterday was suddenly filled. Trying your MOVE-method I just found out that after The Bat drops

Re: Upload to IMAP folder broken

2009-09-17 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Thursday, September 17, 2009, 2:29:01 AM, Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote: I wonder, though, what will happen if I move the mails and TB disconnects even within a batch, will some of the mails be lost? I've never had a problem like that, but if it is a concern, you can always copy, then

Re: MESSAGE LOSS (was: Upload to IMAP folder broken)

2009-09-17 Thread Carsten Guthardt-Schulz
Meanwhile I found out more about this: The Bat disconnects (claiming that the server ended the connection) whenever the message to be uploaded exceeds 2 MB. I checked the IMAP server for such a limit: There is none! Thunderbird uploads the bigger messages with no problem, it's TheBat that is

Re: MESSAGE LOSS (was: Upload to IMAP folder broken)

2009-09-17 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Thursday, September 17, 2009, 7:04:09 AM, Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote: The Bat disconnects (claiming that the server ended the connection) whenever the message to be uploaded exceeds 2 MB. never had this happen to me. How can TB be broken because the server ends the connection?

Re: MESSAGE LOSS (was: Upload to IMAP folder broken)

2009-09-17 Thread Carsten Guthardt-Schulz
Hello Dwight, Thursday, September 17, 2009, 2:25:23 PM, you wrote: never had this happen to me. How can TB be broken because the server ends the connection? As explained earlier in the thread: The server doesn't end the connection, TheBat just claims that that's the case. In reality,

Re: MESSAGE LOSS (was: Upload to IMAP folder broken)

2009-09-17 Thread Robert Tomanek
Hello Carsten, Thursday, September 17, 2009, 11:49:06 AM, you wrote: I estimate the chances of this being fixed in The Bat within the next year at somewhere around 3%. That's about 1000 times more generous than my estimate would be :) -- Best regards, Robert Tomanek

Re: Upload to IMAP folder broken

2009-09-17 Thread Robert Tomanek
Hello Carsten, Thursday, September 17, 2009, 9:29:01 AM, you wrote: I do have full server access and could do it that way, too. But just as exporting to Thunderbird, it has the disadvantage that message flags get los, as TB doesn't export them. Good catch. A very good one, indeed. -- Best

Re: MESSAGE LOSS (was: Upload to IMAP folder broken)

2009-09-17 Thread Robert Tomanek
Hello Carsten, Thursday, September 17, 2009, 2:04:09 PM, you wrote: Meanwhile I found out more about this: The Bat disconnects (claiming that the server ended the connection) whenever the message to be uploaded exceeds 2 MB. I checked the IMAP server for such a limit: There is none!

Re: MESSAGE LOSS (was: Upload to IMAP folder broken)

2009-09-17 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Thursday, September 17, 2009, 9:12:43 AM, Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote: If you try to copy a message of 2 MB to an IMAP folder of your choice, does the upload work? I'm not sure what you are trying to do. I have no problem sending messages larger than that, and just successfully

Re: Upload to IMAP folder broken

2009-09-17 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi, CGS Does anyone have any experiences with uploading to IMAP folders? Indeed I do. Recently, when I converted a bunch of local folders to remotly stored IMAP-folders for a client I ran into exactly the same problem. It seems to me that the problem isn't only volume-related, but

Upload to IMAP folder broken

2009-09-16 Thread Carsten Guthardt-Schulz
Hello Tbbeta, When I upload a certain number of messages to an IMAP folder I repeatedly get problems: - it's usually several hundred, in one case 10,000 messages - I have them in a local folder in The Bat and would like to move them to an IMAP account. The way to go is to select all messages,

Re: Upload to IMAP folder broken

2009-09-16 Thread Robert Tomanek
Hello Carsten, Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 7:55:29 PM, you wrote: What now? I believe that TB closes the connection, as the upload works just fine with Thunderbird. Does anyone have any experiences with uploading to IMAP folders? I do. The option I used was to first COPY the messages