Re: SOT: Skinning applications (was Re: Vote for The Bat!)

ws world being the operative worlds. Again it is something that Unix people have had for years with X. *sigh* Microsoft, to me, has harmed the consumer not because of "advances" they have made, but the advances they have concealed until they could steal. -- Steve C. Lamb

OT: spaces after. (was: Word wrap and paragraph markers)

the \frenchspacing option is set > (which is the default). IIRC some editors also have the option to include the double space after a hard stop if configured to do so. I think joe can do it, but don't quote me on that since it has been about a year since I've used joe in any seri

Re: Word wrap and paragraph markers

]vi[s|m], not joe, not notepad, fte, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc! The only way to appease even /most/ of the people /most/ of the time is to not address the problem at all. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343

Re: Word wrap and paragraph markers

oe does it. vim does it. See a trend here? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -

Re: General/Wish/RAR Help

editor choice to the user is the best route. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -

Re: About color groups

ehe, what a great perspective. TB! can and it does it the intelligent way, command-line options. IE, it doesn't incorporate a scheduler, it lets you handle that and lets the scheduler call the client. See the /mail command line option in help for more details. -- Steve C. Lamb

Re: GOT: Vote for The Bat!

right now and it is interestinng. Doesn't work on everything but is quite nice. :) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | mai

Re: Vote for The Bat!

aders, pipe to any speech syntheses program, done. I was doing that with my Fido-Net email for a while a good 10 years ago on my 386sx-16 with about the same quality as the voice they used. *shrug* The other problem with the Windows environment, everything needs to be reinvented again,

Re: OT: Re: Vote for The Bat!

Tuesday, April 18, 2000, 12:52:21 PM, Christopher wrote: > Hello Steve, > On Tuesday, April 18, 2000 you wrote: >> With PMMail a close 2nd. Hmmm, how did that link get there!? :) > By the way, could anyone enlighten me? I always thought that PMMail is > the other name o

Re: Vote for The Bat!

Tuesday, April 18, 2000, 9:21:02 AM, Paula wrote: > 178 votes and dozens of positive reviews. One of the marketing > advantages of having a users list, eh? With PMMail a close 2nd. Hmmm, how did that link get there!? :) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your pries

Re: (OT) LinuxBat now!

I get when reading /. or internal sites. Let's not forget to mention that IE and NS both leak as well. Hmmm... -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your pri

Re: strange feature request

done. That is the beginning and the end of it. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connectio

Re: strange feature request

sonal reply would have been better. It does when TB!, according to the last interview, is heading down the path of excessive bloat. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connec

Re: strange feature request

to one another. In short, for people who don't want to learn they sure are forced to learn a lot. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to t

Re: strange feature request

e and see where ftp.rpglink.com, www.rpglink.com, smtp.rpglink.com, mail.rpglink.com, pop.rpglink.com all point to. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connecti

Re: strange feature request

s lose money, per sale, when they accept credit > card payments rather than cash/cheque. They're however, willing to take the Not comparable since both are acceptable. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 510734

Re: strange feature request

rprocess communication has atrophied because of those same applications. As a result, as I've said, they are now learning 5-20 times /MORE/ than they need to. > Windows offers an approach that's more average user friendly. User hostile. It is hostile for a reason. --

Re: another feature request

Friday, April 14, 2000, 11:51:19 AM, Patrick wrote: > hallo TBUDL! > aehm. could we have a *plonk* hotkey? > just kidding, really. just couldn't resist %} CNTL-SHIFT-F -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your

Re: strange feature request

d have to, OH MY GAWD, learn. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connect

Re: strange feature request

ully qualified URL which I'm almost positive AOL does highlight. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main conn

Re: strange feature request

redible what customers want these days, but they do get it. OK, Thomas, explain how my method doesn't get them the attachment? Clink on the link I provided and what do you get? You'll get the file. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I&#x

Re: strange feature request

Too many programmers forget that and as a result we get bloated mediocre problems which are best described as useless. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343

Re: strange feature request

ed on the link it either went to the browser which was configured or, in my case, to an /FTP/ client, to get the file. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main

Re: strange feature request

p the URL. Click on mine. > as we see you are not able to send a simple attachement, we decided > to give the 3.500.000 $ order to you competitor. I don't know of a single business that would do that based on one simple snafu. Stop overstating. -- Steve C. Lamb

Re: strange feature request

final program to hyperlink them together for access on a website. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343

Re: strange feature request

t simple enough? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connecti

Re: strange feature request

Friday, April 14, 2000, 9:12:32 AM, Patrick wrote: > gif = png; > better? FTP. Better. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the

Re: strange feature request

to the task. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection

Re: The Bat! - suggestions

Wednesday, April 12, 2000, 12:16:21 PM, Oliver wrote: > I like the idea ;), but what is RFC-2369? Do a yahoo search on RFC and find out. :) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to

Re: SPACES BETWEEN WORDS

tify on wrap. One of the two is doing it. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection

Re: Want to read mail? Why not open all of your minimize-to-tray apps at once?

mail (which might be in my /work/ folders while I am at work!). PMMail does both of these quite nicely. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your

Re: Anti virus software and The Bat!

the impression what NAV 2000 does is open a proxy. You hit it with "user username/mail.isp.com" it takes the mail.isp.com, opens the connection for you and issues the user part. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your

Re: Anti virus software and The Bat!

;t doing one lick of good. Like I said, I'd love to be running Linux on this box right now since I am much more productive in that environment for the work that I do. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107

Re: Anti virus software and The Bat!

nd ignorance. The mere fact you're running TB! cuts down your possibility of being hit by one and being a vector of one a large amount. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm

Re: The Bat! and Windows 2000

ce. If WINE worked on Mandrake it would work on all of them. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main c

(OT): VMware (Was: OS's)

ously, not to the list. Nah, just marked it off topic in case someone else wanted to know. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm

(OT): VMWare (Was: OS's)

t on my P5-100 and my k6-200. Haven't tried on my Celeron-400, though. I found it usable on the K6-200. Of course I'm not looking for blazing speeds for email. I got the Celery for games, nothing more. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shri

Re: OS's

fferent profiles, one for VMWare, one for native. Once that is done you can use the same Windows installation inside and outside of VMWare. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | mai

Re: OS's

On Sat, Apr 08, 2000 at 09:14:57AM +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: > Yes. VMWare (mentioned by Steve Lamb) is a Virtual Machine which will > run on both Windows and Linux allowing one to be "booted" within the > other. Yup. Allows for some fun tricks. For example,

Re: OS's

configuring most of your hardware devices." It isn't a Linux emulator that runs under Windows, it is just a version of Linux which is easy to install for Windows users. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 51073

Re: The Bat! and Windows 2000

or > But that will only happen with clear instructions how to use it with > Wine It doesn't work with wine. It does, however, work quite nicely with VMWare. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343

Re: The Bat! and Windows 2000

Friday, April 07, 2000, 2:08:01 PM, Alexander wrote: > Mahogany? 0.50 seems to be pretty comparable, although I haven't played > with it long enough... Doesn't handle multiple accounts at all. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shr

Re: MSGIDs

you? Considering both of these are trivial for the computer to do each time by comparison to require each user to get a FQDN when most can barely hit the send button I think it is also clear which is better to try to go for. -- Steve C. Lamb

Re: MSGIDs

ensure unique addresses across instances of TB!. Also, it should continue to generate MSGIDs since allowing the server to generate it reducing functionality of TB!, most notably CNTL-BACKSPACE. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm y

MSGIDs

I believe it would behoove RITLABS to create a new algorithm for their MSGIDs to ensure uniqueness as required by RFC822. Granted the chances are slim as TB! is "small" but it is better to address it now than in the future when it can become a problem. -- Steve C. Lamb |

Re: Betas and interesting things

Monday, March 27, 2000, 11:58:59 AM, Nick wrote: > Hi Steve... was wondering what had happened to you... haven't heard barely > a peep out of you in a long time. I thought I saw you post to the TBBETA > List a while back? Well, using Counselor MacKay's "MMMKay"

Re: Betas and interesting things

Monday, March 27, 2000, 11:22:54 AM, Sashka wrote: > change log was posted in TB_BETA mailing list. I don't have access to that list. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connectio

Betas and interesting things

Anyone know why the beta versions of TB! are now being distributed on Winfiles? Also, can someone please forward me the change logs for the betas? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main co

Re: Attachements

your password (most are encoded). -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection

Re: DEAD HORSE (was Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

volved in got dead hosrsed? How could that be? I mean I think I've been in every dead horse subject in the past few months. Wait... By sending this I get involved in this subject. :) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your

Re: IMAP Support

Thursday, March 09, 2000, 7:28:49 AM, Lex wrote: > I hope there is some way to fix this problem since I like The > Bat!, but I really can't use it this way. There isn't. It is slated for v2.0. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shr

Fwd: Fwd: Minor security problem in The Bat!

===Original message text=== From: Jason K. Fritcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, March 03, 2000, 9:36:48 AM Subject: : Minor security problem in The Bat! Received: from lizard (lizard.it.earthlink.net [207.21

Re: Nicknames, Favourites and Auto-Completion

ck and hit F2 without leaving the field it will not expand but it will try to send. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the

Re: OT: some programs, emailers as well use buildin spy modules....

omeone else is hardly the way to convince people it is real. Hell, when I send out security alerts (which is rare) I normally cite at least 3-4 different sources so the people know that I'm nut just making it up nor am I just repeating something that someone else said. -- St

Re: OT: some programs, emailers as well use buildin spy modules....

s like all those membership cards everywhere. They are there to track you! The fact that ads are embedded into it is a clear indication of that. They tell you that in the readme that comes with the program! YOU ARE TOLD. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your

Re: OT: some programs, emailers as well use buildin spy modules....

it, which is the case here, I'm more apt to go with them. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your I

Re: OT: some programs, emailers as well use buildin spy modules....

and causes more damage in his chicken-little act than good. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 |

Re: OT: some programs, emailers as well use buildin spy modules....

s own) who most likely suffers from rectal-cranial inversion says that someone is doing something wrong and sneaky. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your IC

Re: OT: some programs, emailers as well use buildin spy modules....

nd reputations on verifying such exploits and privacy violations. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 51

Re: OT: some programs, emailers as well use buildin spy modules....

all the information on the angelfire site was known to the bugtraq people and have been said to explained to the customer that it was being downloaded in the first place. Hardly something worthy of a notice like this. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink

Re: pink flavoured icons - what does it all mean.

Monday, February 28, 2000, 1:08:21 PM, rellieb-jean wrote: > Why do some letter icons have a pink tinge to them? That is, pink > instead of yellow sides to the enveloppe. They are high (red) priority. Use the low-color version and the color isn't as washed out. -- St

Re: I Like the BAT!

;Auto-Format" Maybe you need to spend a little time looking through the options presented to you before assuming that a feature is forced upon you? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 |

Re: List Slow Lately ??

On Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 09:38:25AM +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > No, it was the list server a couple of days ago, but that's been > fixed. There just hasn't been much traffic here these past days. Note to self, include tags. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm

Re: List Slow Lately ??

Tuesday, February 22, 2000, 1:39:37 PM, Nick wrote: > Anyway, glad to know it's not my Server acting up. :o) Nah, it is my server. For some reason it has been bouncing all my tirades back at me. I think the moderators got into it. :/ -- Steve C. Lamb | I'

Re: The Bat! & Windows 2000 professional

it like the last two. Jeez. Camping out for tickets to a band, yes. For an OS, no. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connect

Re: Kill filter question

ot;, "kludges", "body" and "anywhere". ;) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm

Re: The Bat! - bug report

ul. Everyone has a browser and understands it, basically. Use one of the many "free drive" services on the net where file transfers are done with HTTP put and get. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343

DIGEST TBUDL@thebat.dutaint.com steveh@outsidein.co.uk

DIGEST [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double

Re: File Attachments (A different question)

of the > original message was referring to outgoing mails. Both. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main co

Re: File Attachments (A different question)

ach directory. I thought 600 over 3 months was quite excessive. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the sw

Re: The Bat! and Big files

Wednesday, February 16, 2000, 10:18:51 AM, Oliver wrote: > remaining haven't ever heard of ftp, all they know is how to enter the > url to the yahoo business pages (and their favorite xxx sites ;). Not http://www.highpowergraphics.com/freedrive.html -- Steve C. Lamb

Re: Filtering Spam?

tering above will catch it. IE, it is already taken care of. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343

Re: The Bat! and Big files

cess. Zkey being one of them. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection t

Re: Transfering to new computer?

at the unix way of doing it. Never seem to have problems there. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | m

Re: Transfering to new computer?

t-shift-L'... all the > folders will be recreated again... Or just create an account with the same name as before. TB! picks up all the account specific information from the data that was transfered over. Everything else is really machine specific. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm

Re: Filtering Spam?

On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 07:54:50PM -0500, Allie Martin wrote: > This method, though very effective except for the Nicks most > recent example where a spam message was indeed addressed directly to > him, doesn't seem to go down well with the others Steve. I'm wondering

Re: Filtering Spam?

ically decreased. That is better than any other system that anyone might devise with relatively very little work. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | ma

Re: Filtering Spam?

CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] text That is a complete set of required headers and a body of text. If a server is rejecting that the adming should be severely flogged for not following RFC822. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107

Re: Transfering to new computer?

ing, of course, that they are going to go onto the same drive. Bad assumption. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 |

Re: Transfering to new computer?

Tuesday, February 15, 2000, 4:34:10 PM, Jason wrote: > Please, any advice would be helpful. Move the mail subdirectory. That is pretty much all that is needed. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343

Re: Filtering Spam?

eceiver isn't you and that filtering scheme would catch it. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 510734

Re: Filtering Spam?

gh all of the other > filters obviously. I'll have to make a point of checking that folder more > often. Ahhhh, ok, I understand now. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343

Re: Filtering Spam?

Tuesday, February 15, 2000, 2:47:02 PM, Nick wrote: > Yeah, I was afraid of something like that. I wish TB had an "easy" way of > adding some kind of search criteria to weed out Spam. Actually, I think > it's more the responsibility of my ISP to do that. Thanks for the ti

Re: Boxer99

>'s so it wasn't you that said it. Maybe someone you quoted? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+---

Re: The Bat! - bug report

(assuming my math is correct; I stopped guesstimating download times when I got my 24/7 modem connection). An 8Mb file, emailed, will take about 56 minutes on the same connection because it has been bloated to 10.6Mb. Moral of the story, once again, as I've said numerous times, don'

Re: Filtering Spam?

m is a worthless venture. Most places cancel the addresses after they spammed for no more than a few hours. In the time it took you to create that filter I can almost guarantee that the address in question was nuked and, thus, would never send messages to you ever again. -- Steve C. Lamb

Re: Filter ordering question

in order. Are you checking "Continue Processing with other filters" on the read filter? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 |

Re: The Bat! - bug report

ch has come since that announcement. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the

Re: The Bat! - bug report

It does not thread. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main

Re: The Bat! - bug report

hemselves up for the same problems so many other commercial programmers do when they try to appease everyone and their mother. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | mai

Re: The Bat! - bug report

? PMMail2000. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connec

Re: Steve Lamb

d to the tone set by the user in question. > I'd also like to point out that Mr. Lamb very rarely provides any > assistance. Much more than you ever do, that much is certain. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107

Re: Why not highlighting the newest message in the folder ?

everal options presented to you. By placing you right where you were and letting you decide it avoids conflict between what you wanted to do this time and what it might have thought you wanted to do. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your

Re: Why not highlighting the newest message in the folder ?

Sunday, February 13, 2000, 8:32:21 AM, Allie wrote: > On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 02:16:28 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: >> When it comes to the keyboard I don't think that CNTL-SHIFT-F4 >> is a valid keystroke. > What does that do??? Hell if I know, I was actually th

Re: Why not highlighting the newest message in the folder ?

alls into the "pissant litte function" catagory. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ:

Re: Why not highlighting the newest message in the folder ?

t;new program that comes along? If that is the case, why does Agent suck as a newsreader? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connec

Re: Why not highlighting the newest message in the folder ?

places or places > > where it is completely worthless to be. You try hitting CNTL-SHIFT-F4 > > compared to something else? Double modifiers are *BAD* Fine, I'll just write a script to repost my portion until you die since clearly you don't understand it. -

Re: Why not highlighting the newest message in the folder ?

nction people want they end up being crammed in illogical places or places where it is completely worthless to be. You try hitting CNTL-SHIFT-F4 compared to something else? Double modifiers are *BAD* -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'

Re: Why not highlighting the newest message in the folder ?

emain useful. Uhm, no. When it comes to the keyboard I don't think that CNTL-SHIFT-F4 is a valid keystroke. TB! is chock full of them which is why I rely on the mouse more than anything to use TB!. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I&#

Re: Why not highlighting the newest message in the folder ?

GOAL. If your fingers are so cramped, go elsewhere where whining pricks like yourselve can bitch and moan to one another about how the software doesn't suck you off quite the right way. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ:

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