Re: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-04 Thread Tobias Wrede
Hallo Zipper, Am Samstag, 1. Juli 2000 um 18:15:42 hast Du geschrieben: > my mail servers this didn't cure it. I then shut down Zone Alarm, and it > still hung from the second collection onwards. I can only talk for NT4. But here Zone Alarm stays resitent when shut down by a user. Only the fron

Re: Threading (was: Bat wont collect any POP3)

2000-07-03 Thread Peter Steiner
On Sun, 02 Jul 2000 14:14:36 +, Uwe Brockmann wrote: > Peter Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Is it ZoneAlarm that strips your mail headers? >> Please don't strip the "In-reply-To:" and "References:" headers, as it >> breaks threading: Each of your mails starts a completely new thread. > Sorr

Re: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Sun, 2 Jul 2000 19:04:33 +0100, Zipper wrote: Z> Well all, I seem to have finally solved the problem, it seems for Z> some reason ZoneAlarm will only work with The Bat, if ZA's Internet Z> security level is reduced to medium from high. All other comms apps Z> will work on high. The pl

Re[2]: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-02 Thread Zipper
Hello Ming-Li, Sunday, July 02, 2000, 1:38:54 PM, you wrote: ML> Hi Zipper, ML> either there's something wrong with the communication between ML> TB! and Win2k's dial-up networking, Well all, I seem to have finally solved the problem, it seems for some reason ZoneAlarm will only work with The

Re: Threading (was: Bat wont collect any POP3)

2000-07-02 Thread Deryk Lister
> Berkeley mail does not support threading. It probably does not support > "In-reply-To:" and "References:" headers either. Even if it did, the > fact that I write all of my e-mail from scratch instead of using > Berkeley mail's "reply" function would effectively disable this feature. Interesti

Re: Threading (was: Bat wont collect any POP3)

2000-07-02 Thread Uwe Brockmann
Peter Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Is it ZoneAlarm that strips your mail headers? > Please don't strip the "In-reply-To:" and "References:" headers, as it > breaks threading: Each of your mails starts a completely new thread. Sorry about that. I use Berkeley mail to write all of my e-mail. I h

Re: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-02 Thread Ming-Li
Hi Zipper, >> either there's something wrong with the communication between >> TB! and Win2k's dial-up networking, > Seems to be, as Calypso, Agent, Outlook all work fine with > Win2K/Ras/Zonealarm It's possible, but not necessary. If the email ZoneAlarm wrote to Allie is any indication, that p

Re: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Sun, 2 Jul 2000 07:39:30 +0100, Zipper wrote: >> I left my test mail on the server, so you can still receive it. >> If the problem persists with this account, then either there's >> something wrong with the communication between TB! and Win2k's >> dial-up networking, Z> Seems to be, as Calyps

Re: Threading (was: Bat wont collect any POP3)

2000-07-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Sun, 2 Jul 2000 11:51:44 +0200, Gerd Ewald wrote: GE> it shouldn't be ZA. I use ZA as well and had no problems with the GE> threading of my msgs. I as well. GE> But I found out that some email clients like M$-Exchange, Outlook GE> 4.xxx, Lotus Notes.. use a different method to threa

Re: Threading (was: Bat wont collect any POP3)

2000-07-02 Thread Gerd Ewald
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter, Sunday, July 02, 2000, 11:32:53 AM, you wrote: > On Sun, 02 Jul 2000 03:26:25 +, Uwe Brockmann wrote: >> Yes, I am using Zone Alarm 2.1.25. > Is it ZoneAlarm that strips your mail headers? > Please don't strip the "In-reply-To:" a

Threading (was: Bat wont collect any POP3)

2000-07-02 Thread Peter Steiner
On Sun, 02 Jul 2000 03:26:25 +, Uwe Brockmann wrote: > Yes, I am using Zone Alarm 2.1.25. Is it ZoneAlarm that strips your mail headers? Please don't strip the "In-reply-To:" and "References:" headers, as it breaks threading: Each of your mails starts a completely new thread. Regards Peter

RE: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-01 Thread Zipper
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ming-Li > Sent: 02 July 2000 01:07 > To: Zipper > Subject: Re: Bat wont collect any POP3 > Thanks Ming-Li > I left my test mail on the server, so you can still receive it. &

Re: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-01 Thread Uwe Brockmann
Peter Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > There seem to be two problems with POP access. The problems with GMX > seem to be unrelated to the ZoneAlarm problems, for I don't have any > firewall installed (don't tell anybody! ;-) and do encounter similar > problems as Uwe. As described in an earlier thre

Re: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-01 Thread Uwe Brockmann
> Uwe Brockmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > After starting The Bat! I can retrieve e-mail only once. (snip) > > the problem only occurs when all of the following conditions are > > met: > > > > (1) I am using Windows 2000 > > (2) I am using The Bat! > > (3) I am using a POP3 account at

Re: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-01 Thread Ming-Li
Hi Zipper, > Yes, Win2K Pro UK/US Version Same with mine. > ClaraNET, Freeserve, Lineone - all UK ISP's. Ok, I took the drastic step to register an account at Lineone, since it's free. Then I setup a new account in TB! and tried to collect mail from this new account 3 times in a roll (in one

Re: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:27:18 +0100, Mark Aston wrote: AM>> I don't know, but Mark just hollered that the latest 1.45beta may AM>> have improved things in this regard. See you on TBBETA with the AM>> response, if any. There are wise instructions to leave beta related AM>> stuff out of this groups

Re: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-01 Thread Mark Aston
Hi Allie, Saturday, July 01, 2000, 6:51:15 PM, you wrote: AM> I don't know, but Mark just hollered that the latest 1.45beta AM> may have improved things in this regard. See you on TBBETA with the AM> response, if any. There are wise instructions to leave beta related AM> stuff out of this group

Re: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-01 Thread Peter Steiner
On Sat, 01 Jul 2000 16:07:15 +, Uwe Brockmann wrote: > I have a similar problem. After starting The Bat! I can retrieve e-mail > only once. All further attempts to retrieve E-Mail via POP3 in the same > session fail. After I restart TB! I can once again retrieve E-Mail, but > only once. I

Re: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:41:36 +0200, Peter Steiner wrote: PS> There seem to be two problems with POP access. The problems with GMX PS> seem to be unrelated to the ZoneAlarm problems, for I don't have any PS> firewall installed (don't tell anybody! ;-) and do encounter similar PS> problems as Uwe. A

RE: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-01 Thread Zipper
Just d/l the latest beta, same problem. I also cannot close The Bat using beta 5, I have to end task it. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Aston > Sent: 01 July 2000 18:31 > To: Zipper > Subject: Re: Bat won

Re: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-01 Thread Peter Steiner
On Sat, 1 Jul 2000 11:17:49 -0500, Allie Martin wrote: > On Sat, 01 Jul 2000 16:07:15 +, Uwe Brockmann wrote: UB>> Are you using Windows 2000? I am using Windows 2000 Professional UB>> (U.S. English version). UB>> Who are your e-mail providers? Are you using GMX? > Are you using

Re: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-01 Thread Mark Aston
Hi Zipper, Saturday, July 01, 2000, 5:15:42 PM, you wrote: Z> I am using Win2K and Zone Alarm. I followed Ming Li's instructions and added Z> my mail servers this didn't cure it. I then shut down Zone Alarm, and it Z> still hung from the second collection onwards. I have had the same problem y

RE: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-01 Thread Zipper
B!UDL > Subject: Re: Bat wont collect any POP3 > > > On Sat, 1 Jul 2000 17:15:42 +0100, Zipper wrote: > > Z> I am using Win2K and Zone Alarm. I followed Ming Li's instructions > Z> and added my mail servers this didn't cure it. I then shut down Zone > Z> A

Re: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Sat, 1 Jul 2000 17:15:42 +0100, Zipper wrote: Z> I am using Win2K and Zone Alarm. I followed Ming Li's instructions Z> and added my mail servers this didn't cure it. I then shut down Zone Z> Alarm, and it still hung from the second collection onwards. Hmmm, I'm quite sure ZoneAlarm is

RE: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-01 Thread Zipper
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Uwe Brockmann > Sent: 01 July 2000 17:07 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Bat wont collect any POP3 > Are you using Windows 2000? I am using Windows 2000 Professional (U

Re: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Sat, 01 Jul 2000 16:07:15 +, Uwe Brockmann wrote: UB> Are you using Windows 2000? I am using Windows 2000 Professional UB> (U.S. English version). UB> Who are your e-mail providers? Are you using GMX? Are you using a PC firewall? -- Allie Martin[ TB! v1.45 Beta/4

RE: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-01 Thread Zipper
ECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Allie Martin > Sent: 01 July 2000 17:02 > To: Zipper on TB!UDL > Subject: Re: Bat wont collect any POP3 > I assume that you're using Win2k and the PC firewall ZoneAlarm > right? > -- ---

Re: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-01 Thread Uwe Brockmann
Zipper, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The odd thing is if I shut The Bat, the first time I do a check > all boxes it is able to and lightening fast, the second onwards > fail. If I shut and reopen, it is fine again for one collection, > then unable to connect. I have a similar problem. After starting T

Re: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Sat, 1 Jul 2000 16:23:06 +0100, Zipper wrote: Z> I have just gone back to using the Bat. I have a problem connecting Z> via POP3 to any of my mail accounts, I have tried 3 of my different Z> ISP's, 3different POP3 servers and all show unable to connect to Z> server, all 3 can be pinged. Z> Wh

Re: Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-01 Thread Ming-Li
Hi Zipper, > The odd thing is if I shut The Bat, the first time I do a > check all boxes it is able to and lightening fast, the > second onwards fail. If I shut and reopen, it is fine > again for one collection, then unable to connect. A couple of days ago another user had the sa

Bat wont collect any POP3

2000-07-01 Thread Zipper
Hello all, I am not sure if this or the help/information request is the best way to get support, but I am having the following problems : I have just gone back to using the Bat. I have a problem connecting via POP3 to any of my mail accounts, I have tried 3 of my different ISP's,