Friday, December 07, 2001, 12:31:00 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote:
There are times when it would be good to be able to see something
in a monospaced font. It would be good if there was an easy way to
toggle back and forth. I remember such a feature in Eudora. (if
there is one in TB! I'm not aware
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Hello Zach!
On 8 Dec 2001 at 08:50:20 you wrote:
Not as a hotkey though, only as a menu item. Right? Either way, it's a
great thing for any list/newsgroup reading client to have.
Menu and tool bar button.
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Dierk Haasis
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Hello Rémi!
On 6 Dec 2001 at 08:17:39 you wrote:
The point is,
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I disagree. the arguments have been trodden out so many times, I won't
go into it again. Just for the statistics:
I like the editor of TB!.
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Dierk Haasis
Hello Rémi,
On Thursday, December 6, 2001 at 09:17 GMT +0200, a creature mimicking
Rémi Pach [RP] wrote:
Ok, I'm going to answer this thread. I know, this horse has been
kicked more times than a sane person could count, but I'm doing it
anyway. My goal is not to reignite the debate, just to
Hello Dierk,
I disagree. the arguments have been trodden out so many times, I
won't go into it again. Just for the statistics: I like the editor
of TB!.
Sure, everyone can have different likes and dislikes. I won't argue
with that. But also for the statistics, quite a few people to whom I
Hello Januk,
Don't a lot of old DOS editors use free caret type interfaces?
Who uses DOS these days? Please, that's history!
True, but the free caret system requires mono-spaced fonts.
One more reason for the free caret to go. Ask normal e-mail users out
there (i.e. not militant batters)
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Hello Januk!
On 6 Dec 2001 at 10:44:07 you wrote:
aside
Have you noticed that even MS introduced click-and-type
capabilities in Word 2000? I wonder if this outdated concept
doesn't have some merit.
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Correct. And in Word it is not a
Hello Rémi,
On 6 Dec 2001 at 10:50:23 you wrote (at least in part):
RP When one spends hours reading and composing mail, one needs a bit
RP more comfort than TB has to offer at this stage.
*erm* ... I don't want to become misunderstood, I'm not going to tell
somebody what editor is the best,
Hello Rémi,
On 6 Dec 2001 at 11:30:25 you wrote (at least in part):
Don't a lot of old DOS editors use free caret type interfaces?
RP Who uses DOS these days? Please, that's history!
I dunno ... What's your OS? Win9x? OK, you're using DOS.
True, but the free caret system requires
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 12:30:25 +0200, Rémi Pach [RP] wrote these
comments:
I didn't intend to joint the discussion here but this message
particularly disturbs me.
...
RP Who uses DOS these days? Please, that's history!
There are a lot of great principles that come from the DOS days and
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Hello Rémi!
On 6 Dec 2001 at 10:50:23 you wrote:
Sure, everyone can have different likes and dislikes. I won't argue
with that. But also for the statistics, quite a few people to whom I
recommended TB were put off by the editor (and to a lesser
Hello Rémi,
An archeological dig discovered that on Thursday, December 6, 2001 at
12:30 GMT +0200, Rémi Pach [RP] typed the following:
True, but the free caret system requires mono-spaced fonts.
RP One more reason for the free caret to go. Ask normal e-mail users
RP out there (i.e. not
Hello,
DH Addressing dull: There are some things in TB!'s UI that need to be
DH done. But shouldn't they have more to do with usability, i.e.
DH customizable tool bars, than taste? The only programme on which I use
DH those non-dull skins is Winamp. But that is only used once or twice a
DH year
Hi,
On Thursday, December 06, 2001, 12:49:12 PM, Allie C Martin wrote:
The free caret interface was very awkward for me, when I first met it,
but I've grown to love it. If one had asked me if I wanted it when I
first met it, I would have said no.
Allow me to support Allie's point buy
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Hello Rémi!
On 6 Dec 2001 at 11:30:25 you wrote:
Who uses DOS these days? Please, that's history!
Me, sometimes.
One more reason for the free caret to go. Ask normal e-mail users out
there (i.e. not militant batters) what they would prefer
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Hello Bernhard!
On 6 Dec 2001 at 13:18:26 you wrote:
Take a look at the other system (no, not Linux, the one with the
apple) and you will know that programs may look cool and follow
function.
I concur with the essence of your statement. I
Hi Peter,
On 6 Dec 2001 at 11:43:53 [GMT +0100], you wrote:
PP Surely, an implementation of VIM in TB! would be more comfortable
PP to me (not to others, OK *g*)
Seconded! ;-)
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Lars
The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2
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Hello Allie!
On 6 Dec 2001 at 12:49:12 you wrote:
Now that I see the advantage of using a fixed width font, I always use
it in the context of plain text formatting and reading, even if I am
able to use a proportional font.
One more thing comes
Hello Lars,
On 6 Dec 2001 at 15:21:02 you wrote (at least in part):
PP Surely, an implementation of VIM in TB! would be more comfortable
PP to me (not to others, OK *g*)
LG Seconded! ;-)
Hey ... this wasn't meant seriously :-) I do know what a heck of work
this would be ... it is quite
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Hello Rémi,
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 at 12:30:25 [GMT +0200], you wrote:
RP One more reason for the free caret to go. Ask normal e-mail users
RP out there (i.e. not militant batters) what they would prefer
Hello Rémi,
6. december 2001, 11:30:25, you wrote:
Don't a lot of old DOS editors use free caret type interfaces?
RP Who uses DOS these days? Please, that's history!
Sometimes I use it, and the only file manager I use runs in a console
window (which uneducated refer to as DOS; it also
Hello Dierk,
6. december 2001, 12:54:23, you wrote:
DH Normal users use IE instead of Opera, OE instead of The Bat! and
DH Agent (news), comfortable stupidity instead of their minds.
I disagree with the news one - 'normal' users use OE as their news
client.
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Hey there,
I know exactly how you feel. Judging from the archives and
from my *very small* experience on the list, this topic comes up very
often. There's also the TAB issue...
Why TB's editor works this way is still unknown to me. But I do know
that I don't like it. That's my one only
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Hi Roberto,
On 06 December 2001 at 20:19:43 [GMT-0800] (which was 04:19 where I
live) Roberto Machorro wrote to E Major and made these points:
RM I know exactly how you feel. Judging from the archives and
RM from my *very small* experience
On 6 Dec 2001, 11:15:25 AM, Jernej Simonèiè wrote:
RP Third, you can be almost certain that a table created with TB
RP will look awful to the recipient since 90% of all e-mail users
RP have e-mail clients that use proportional fonts. That was my
RP point and you have no answer to that.
Most
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Hello Jernej!
On 6 Dec 2001 at 18:06:38 you wrote:
DH Normal users use IE instead of Opera, OE instead of The Bat! and
DH Agent (news), comfortable stupidity instead of their minds.
I disagree with the news one - 'normal' users use OE as their
Hi
Yes, the TAB to spaces issue.
I must say thought, that TB makes ASCII art easy ;)
Roberto
Thursday, December 06, 2001, 12:42:32 PM, you wrote:
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MDP Hi Roberto,
MDP On 06 December 2001 at 20:19:43 [GMT-0800] (which was 04:19 where I
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Hello Dwight!
On 6 Dec 2001 at 21:56:31 you wrote:
There are times when it would be good to be able to see something in a
monospaced font. It would be good if there was an easy way to toggle
back and forth. I remember such a feature in Eudora.
In The Bat, when you are editing or composing a message, and you go to the end
of the line, and press the right arrow, it will not go down to the next line,
but keep moving the cursor off into space to the right, or up and down if you use
those arrow keys.
Is there any way to make it act like
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Hi E,
On 06 December 2001 at 13:16:25 [GMT+1100] (which was 02:16 where I
live) E Major wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:
EM In The Bat, when you are editing or composing a message, and you
EM go to the end of the line, and press
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:
There isn't. Once you get used to it [the free caret] , you wouldn't
want it any other way either.
The point is, many people do NOT get used to it because that behaviour
is so unusual, so unlike everything we are used to. In fact I think
that TB's editor is one of
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