Re[4]: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-26 Thread Spike
Hello The Janitor, I know it's only one example of your need to keep a large db of messages but why not just keep a single text file of registration keys and add to it with each new product? I do this too, however this file is now quite enormous in and of itself. I keep software

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-25 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Robert C Wittig writes: Long time no see, Anthony! Another happy user of TB, I gather? This is true. I am in the habit of doing a full back-up of TB! daily, to a secondary, data-only hard drive. It worries me a bit that e-mail programs in general seem to make very little provision for

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-25 Thread Robert C Wittig
Hello Anthony, Thursday, August 25, 2005, 1:36:55 AM, you wrote: AGA Another happy user of TB, I gather? I'm running an ancient version... 1.60q. I had been using Linux Red Hat as my Internet Gateway for quite a while, so I never bothered to upgrade TB!, as it was just lying dormant on my

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-25 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Robert C Wittig everyone else, on 25-Aug-2005 at 13:22 you (Robert C Wittig) wrote: It is really my favourite MUA, but I think it was developed in a non-*nix-friendly language, so unfortunately there will probably never be a *nix release for it. Time to WINE. ;-) You can run TB on

Re[2]: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-25 Thread Spike
Hello Anthony, It worries me a bit that e-mail programs in general seem to make very little provision for selectively archiving or restoring message base content. Eventually you end up with tremendously large mailboxes, and if there's no way to selectively archive and extract stuff and

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-25 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Spike, On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] S Each new S laptop I get (every 14 months or so) requires I re-install literally S dozens of programs for which I may have received the activation key 5 S or more years ago. I Copy all those mails into an Important folder. I

Re[3]: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-25 Thread The Janitor
26 August 2005 - 06:48 Hello Spike, Thursday, August 25, 2005, 11:21:54 PM, you wrote: S One frequent need is to S refer back to software registration keys from years gone by. I know it's only one example of your need to keep a large db of messages but why not just keep a single text file of

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-24 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 05:44:47 +0200, Anthony G. Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scandisk is not even part of XP. Well, whatever it's called now ... I haven't run it in quite some time. Ah, you simply meant the disk checker. Lets avoid confusion of the innocent people here: -

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-24 Thread Robert C Wittig
Hello Anthony, Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 10:47:36 PM, you wrote: AGA Well, the only real protection against this sort of thing is more AGA frequent backups. Otherwise, obviously you risk losing whatever AGA you've done since the last backup. Long time no see, Anthony! This is true. I am in

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2005-08-24 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Robert, On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 06:12:41 -0500GMT (24-8-2005, 13:12 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RCW This is true. I am in the habit of doing a full back-up of TB! daily, RCW to a secondary, data-only hard drive. RCW -wittig http://www.robertwittig.com/ RCW . RCW

Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Oops!! Power Failure)

2005-08-24 Thread Robert C Wittig
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, August 24, 2005, 6:29:55 AM, you wrote: RO Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists RO of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. RO This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without RO the signature and

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-24 Thread Cory
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 09:57:52 -0500, Spike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately I was not at home until AFTER the 4 hours life of the UPS battery, so I could do nothing about the issue after the fact. Suggestions?? Make backups every hour: simple, scheduled script will do. -- Happy flappin'!

Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-23 Thread Spike
Hello tbot/tbudl'ers, Apologies for the cross-post, but I have a major issue I wanted to air on BOTH lists, as they are both involved. I have experienced a great loss due to an island-wide power failure that lasted for just over 5 hours yesterday. I had the complete TBOT and TBUDL lists going

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-23 Thread Spike
Hello tbot/tbudl'ers, I just ran a mail run and I noticed I am also missing TBBETA as well. :-( [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-23 Thread Jernej Simoncic
On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 16:57:52, Spike wrote: TB! told me the message bases were corrupted. The folder item 'maintenance' was greyed out, and TB! said to run chkdsk. Well, this is now called SCANDISK under Win-XP (hint, developers!). No, it isn't. NT-based Windows never included

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-23 Thread Chris
Spike @ 2005-8-23 9:57:52 AM Oops!! Power Failure mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suggestions?? You computer should be configured in such a way that when the UPS reports that it has x percent left, the computer shuts itself down. Now, since you have a laptop, things are slightly different. Also

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-23 Thread Nick Dutton
Hello Spike, On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, you wrote: S Suggestions?? Assuming that your bases were corrupted because Windows had not written its cached image of your files to disk when the PC died, you could perhaps disable write caching on the external drive? It's under the disk's properties,

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-23 Thread Jernej Simoncic
On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 18:30:35, Nick Dutton wrote: Assuming that your bases were corrupted because Windows had not written its cached image of your files to disk when the PC died, you could perhaps disable write caching on the external drive? It's under the disk's properties, then

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-23 Thread Nick Dutton
Hello Jernej, On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, you wrote: Assuming that your bases were corrupted because Windows had not written its cached image of your files to disk when the PC died, you could perhaps disable write caching on the external drive? It's under the disk's properties, then

Re[2]: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-23 Thread Spike
Hello Jernej Simoncic, Scandisk might have been the culprit - it's not a tool meant for NT/2k/XP (though I have a hard time believing it ran at all - unless your disks use FAT32). It was the 'tools' error checking under WinXP Pro. After exiting TB!, it allowed me to run the error checking.

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-23 Thread Roman Katzer
On 8/23/05, Spike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suggestions?? In addition to what Chris suggested (have computer turn itself off if there's less than, say, 20% left on your UPS), backup more often (ok, also has been suggested) and: leave your mail on the server for a week or so after retrieval. TB

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-23 Thread Spike
Hello Chris, You computer should be configured in such a way that when the UPS reports that it has x percent left, the computer shuts itself down. Now, since you have a laptop, things are slightly different. As my message bases total over 45GB at present, shutting down TB! (all accounts and

Re[2]: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-23 Thread Spike
Hello Nick Dutton, Assuming that your bases were corrupted because Windows had not written its cached image of your files to disk when the PC died, you could perhaps disable write caching on the external drive? It's under the disk's properties, then Hardware-Properties-Policies. This will

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-23 Thread Roman Katzer
On 8/23/05, Spike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As my message bases total over 45GB at present, shutting down TB! (all accounts and folders set to compress!) takes just over 6 hours. Holy cr*p! Have you considered deleting some e-mails or storing attachments in separate directories? How many

Re[2]: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-23 Thread Spike
Hello Roman, Holy cr*p! Have you considered deleting some e-mails or storing attachments in separate directories? How many messages is that? 425,345 as of two minutes ago. I'm doing a maximum mail index capacity test {gryns}. Every e-mail I have sent or received since 1995 +/- a month or

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-23 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Spike writes: I have experienced a great loss due to an island-wide power failure that lasted for just over 5 hours yesterday. I had the complete TBOT and TBUDL lists going back about 4 years. The power failure lasted longer than my UPS's and I LOST the entire mail folders for these lists.

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-23 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Jernej Simoncic writes: Scandisk might have been the culprit - it's not a tool meant for NT/2k/XP (though I have a hard time believing it ran at all - unless your disks use FAT32). Scandisk will run on XP, although it requires exclusive access to the device, so if you run it, XP actually

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-23 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Anthony G. Atkielski everyone else, on 23-Aug-2005 at 21:39 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote: Scandisk will run on XP Scandisk is not even part of XP. although it requires exclusive access to the device So does chkdsk if the partition is locked - like the boot partition. -- Best

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2005-08-23 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Roman, On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:42:11 -0400GMT (23-8-2005, 20:42 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RK Holy cr*p! Have you considered deleting some e-mails or storing RK attachments in separate directories? How many messages is that? RK scratching his head, RK Roman RK

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-23 Thread Curtis
On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, at 01:35 PM, Spike wrote: As my message bases total over 45GB at present, shutting down TB! (all accounts and folders set to compress!) takes just over 6 hours. Not an option, without having something to SHUT DOWN TB! from within Task Manager. This is what I do

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-23 Thread Chris
Spike @ 2005-8-23 1:35:05 PM Oops!! Power Failure mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If there is a way to get it, I'd surely like to reload this, and TBBETA and/or TBOT if I can get it. I will restore the backups I have and see what I am missing. Perhaps some kind soul may have the area where the gap

Re[2]: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-23 Thread Spike
Hello Anthony G. Atkielski, Spike writes: 8 Snippage TB! told me the message bases were corrupted. The folder item 'maintenance' was greyed out, and TB! said to run chkdsk. Just from a power failure? Yes, with the program continuing to run for TWO hours with no data drive. I ran

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-23 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Alexander S. Kunz writes: Scandisk is not even part of XP. Well, whatever it's called now ... I haven't run it in quite some time. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2

Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-23 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Spike writes: I backup the entire 100GB drive weekly, but the failure happened a few hours BEFORE the scheduled Sunday weekly backup. :-( Well, the only real protection against this sort of thing is more frequent backups. Otherwise, obviously you risk losing whatever you've done since the