[Texascavers] Brinco lock combo change

2008-07-14 Thread Gill Ediger
When we were at Conrado Castillo in June Bev changed the combination on the lock to the field house door. Anyone having a need for the new combination can contact Bev b...@zaraenvironmental.com or me. Members who are planning on going in the near future may want to record the combo

[Texascavers] EspeleoCoahuila

2008-07-14 Thread speleosteele
I've waiting patiently, but now I've just got to ask, is someone going to post a report on EspeleoCoahuila? Were there any caving finds of note? What happened? Bill - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe,

Re: [Texascavers] EspeleoCoahuila

2008-07-14 Thread mark gee
Ditto- We all want to know. Whats up! - Original Message From: speleoste...@tx.rr.com speleoste...@tx.rr.com To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:11:19 PM Subject: [Texascavers] EspeleoCoahuila I've waiting patiently, but now I've just got to ask, is someone

[Texascavers] EspeleoCoahuila

2008-07-14 Thread mike
My group found some small tectonic caves the first day and were led on a crazy goose chase the second day to a large shelter cave full of bees. We mapped out the 2-3 neat little caves we had found, the largest being about 30m long (which we named Cherry) Some of those from the other teams

archives and help requested

2008-07-14 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Archiving messages for posterity is always a challenge. Hard drive and computer crashes, changing of technology and natural disasters always creates havoc for computer administrators. Locklear posted about Google groups in the OT list and it reminded me that I needed to check on my archives

[Texascavers] Paging Earnie Garza

2008-07-14 Thread keith heuss
Contact me off list. Keith Heuss

[Texascavers] Preconvention activities

2008-07-14 Thread CaverArch
Copied from TAG. Texas cavers will pass right through Marianna on the way to the Convention via IH10. 2008 Preconvention Camp in Marianna, Florida By: Manuel Beers (Decatur, Georgia) gooberh...@gmail.com 2008 Preconvention Camp August 2-8, 2008 Marianna, Florida

[Texascavers] OT - google groups

2008-07-14 Thread David
This is news to me. There is a service called Google Groups. Here is one grotto's site on this service: http://groups.google.com/group/wmgrotto?lnk=srg I never liked Yahoo groups; but tolerated it, because at the time, seemed like the only free choice for grottos to control their own internal

RE: [Texascavers] OT - google groups

2008-07-14 Thread Stefan Creaser
No wonder there is very little caving traffic on CaveTex, everyone is off playing on the NSS forums, Wikipedia and now Google Groups... ;-) Stefan. From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] This is news to me. There is a service called Google Groups.

RE: [Texascavers] OT - google groups

2008-07-14 Thread mark . alman
We could always start talking religion again. JUST KIDDING! I'll be quiet now and go back in my corner. Mark A From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:49 PM To: David;

Re: [Texascavers] OT - google groups

2008-07-14 Thread Don Arburn
All hail OZTOTL. Don Arburn On Jul 14, 2008, at 12:52 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: We could always start talking religion again. JUST KIDDING! I’ll be quiet now and go back in my corner. Mark A

Re: [Texascavers] OT - google groups

2008-07-14 Thread Charles Goldsmith
David, Google purchased a website service called deja back in 2001, which was an online archive of the usenet emails (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet). Google then renamed it to google groups and added their flair to it. I actually archive all of my lists that I control into google groups,

RE: [Texascavers] OT - google groups

2008-07-14 Thread Fritz Holt
Nah, politics is better. F From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:53 PM To: Stefan Creaser; David; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] OT - google groups We could always start talking religion

[Texascavers] Fw: Bexar Grotto Meeting Program Tonight

2008-07-14 Thread Geary Schindel
Subject: Bexar Grotto Meeting Program Tonight Aspen Schindel will make a presentation on a recent trip by Venture Crew 410 to Tennessee, Alabama, and Georgia (TAG) where they did a number of vertical and horizontal caves including South Pittsburg Pit (160'). Stephens Gap (140'), Fountain Pit

[Texascavers] Journey .... - movie review

2008-07-14 Thread David
I won't give away the movie. I only saw the 2D version, and I presume parts of this movie look better in 3D as the really graphic scenes looked awkward. In the only real caving scene in the movie, the 3 explorers use what appears to be Black Diamond Headlamp. I couldn't tell which version or

[Texascavers] caves in the news - Jewel Cave

2008-07-14 Thread David
This article appeared on Sunday in a Chicago newspaper: http://www.suntimes.com/lifestyles/travel/northamerica/1052958,TRA-News-caving13.article It is typical of articles about a commercial cave. But it mentions a caver receiving the Lew Bicking Award ( I think that could have been worded a

[ot_caving] Wiki-answers - speleology

2008-07-14 Thread David
Just 2 weeks ago, the Wiki-Answers Earth Science Category had nearly 13,000 questions and no Speleology section. Now the new Speleology section has 140 questions waiting to be answered. That is over 1 percent of the questions in the entire Earth Science Category.

[Texascavers] RE: TSA Landfund Idea

2008-07-14 Thread Minton, Mark
Don Arburn said: Kicking around another idea for the dispensation of TSA Landfund monies... Recently I spoke with Gustavo Vela-Turcott of Mexico, he was a member of a recent trip to Krubera. The only North American to go. He wants to go back, but needs sponsors. While not a TSA member

Re: [Texascavers] RE: TSA Landfund Idea

2008-07-14 Thread Don Arburn
No arguement from me, as I said just kicking around ideas. Never said it was a GOOD one. Don Arburn Don Arburn said: Kicking around another idea for the dispensation of TSA Landfund monies... I think that would be a totally inappropriate use of land fund money. My two cents. Mark

Re: [Texascavers] RE: TSA Landfund Idea

2008-07-14 Thread Don Arburn
Mustang vs Cayman. Don Arburn On Jul 14, 2008, at 2:22 PM, John Brooks jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Oh come! Argue a bit...say something illusory! Sent from my iPhone - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To

[Texascavers] LED headlamps on TV

2008-07-14 Thread David
On a recent episode of Stargate Atlantis, the team was trapped under concrete rubble of a large structure. A group of rescue experts was sent into to rescue the trapped team. The time period of this show is not set in the future, but approximately in the present. So the rescuers are not

[Texascavers] OT - NSS Convention related

2008-07-14 Thread David
This is for NSS Convention attendees only. If I go to Florida, I was hoping to do some swimming and tubing, most likely at the Ichetucknee River. http://www.ichetucknee.org/springs.html Is there a better place near the convention to go tubing? Is anybody else going to the Ichetucknee to do

Re: [Texascavers] OT - NSS Convention related

2008-07-14 Thread Diana Tomchick
David, Years ago when I lived in Florida, I snorkeled the Ichetucknee River, which is crystal clear and cool due to the plentiful springs that feed it. I believe back then you were required to take an inner tube along with you, but I simply lashed it to me and snorkeled down the river.

Re: [Texascavers] OT - NSS Convention related

2008-07-14 Thread CaverArch
David, I tubed the Ichetucknee back about 1970, and froze my butt*. I'm particularly sensitive to cold water, so you might be fine, but consider neoprene shorts. It was quite primitve and beauttiful then, so lets home it still remains so. Florida has been very active (via its regional water

Re: [Texascavers] OT - NSS Convention related

2008-07-14 Thread CaverArch
I would have loved to snorkel it (and many other spring-fed Florida streams) if I had a wetsuit! Without, I tend to faint from hypothermia. Roger In a message dated 07/14/08 13:46:48 Central Daylight Time, diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu writes: David, Years ago when I lived in Florida,

Re: [Texascavers] OT - NSS Convention related

2008-07-14 Thread Diana Tomchick
Wetsuits are easily rented from dive shops. Diana On Jul 14, 2008, at 2:37 PM, CaverArch wrote: I would have loved to snorkel it (and many other spring-fed Florida streams) if I had a wetsuit! Without, I tend to faint from hypothermia. Roger In a message dated 07/14/08 13:46:48 Central

Re: [Texascavers] OT - NSS Convention related

2008-07-14 Thread CaverArch
Nowadays, yes, and maybe in 1970 (see my earlier post) on the Florida coasts. But when I was tubing back then, I was a student who could barely even afford a tube (and they still mostly came right out of car tires back then). Roger In a message dated 07/14/08 14:48:38 Central Daylight

[Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting – July 16, 2008

2008-07-14 Thread garyfranklin2
UT Grotto meeting – July 16, 2008 www.utgrotto.org Aimee Beveridge, Geoff Hoese, and Peter Sprouse will be presenting Caving in Oaxaca This recent trip featured lots of tropical caves, giant cycads, ancient glyphs, blind scorpions, heaps of skulls, crashing surf, and the usual cultural