[Texascavers] caving gear tips

2010-12-02 Thread David
There appears to be quite a few videos on the web showing how to use vertical gear.This was something we didn't have when I was learning how to use gear, and we had to sometimes learn the hard way, meaning by how not to do it. Here is an example of a new video showing an ascender with a

[Texascavers] National Geographic cavers

2010-12-02 Thread Gill Edigar
Toward the rear of the December 2010 National Geographic will be found an article on bats and White Nose Syndrome in which Jim Kennedy is quoted several times. In the Letters section on page 8 of the same issue one can also find a note by Jill Yager praising the NG's posthumous tribute to cave

Re: [Texascavers] National Geographic cavers

2010-12-02 Thread Robert B
Not only is Kennedy quoted, but it looks as if the whole article is titled after him. Not to be morbid of make light the seriousness of the situation, but the photo showing the bats laying on what looks like dinner plates made me do a double take. I thought maybe there was a going to be a new

[Texascavers] party December 29

2010-12-02 Thread Mixon Bill
Advance notice; more info later: WHEREAS The UT Grotto normally meets on the fifth Wednesday of any month that has one, but the UT campus is completely closed down between Christmas and New Years, and WHEREAS Wednesday, December 29 happens to be the day I become a septuagenarian, THEREFORE

texascavers Digest 2 Dec 2010 15:13:18 -0000 Issue 1202

2010-12-02 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 2 Dec 2010 15:13:18 - Issue 1202 Topics (messages 16591 through 16620): Re: conference prices 16591 by: George Veni 16601 by: Gill Edigar 16603 by: Diana Tomchick 16604 by: Geary Schindel prices 16592 by: Mixon Bill 16593

[Texascavers] Re: Eating Bats

2010-12-02 Thread Mark Minton
Unfortunately, people do eat bats in Africa and parts of Asia. I think it is mostly the large fruit bats rather than the little bats we're familiar with - you wouldn't get much out of them. Mark Minton At 10:12 AM 12/2/2010, Robert B wrote: Not only is Kennedy quoted, but it looks as

[Texascavers] Mike Collins

2010-12-02 Thread Sam Young
I can not find that issue of the 2010 Newsletter to confirm what Gill has posted. But that picture on page 432 of Carl’s book is definitely the Mike Collins that we knew. Indeed, Diane and I went to Tanaja and El Tigre with Mike and his wife (since divorced) and I think that it was 1964. We

[Texascavers] fascinating microbial research

2010-12-02 Thread Diana Tomchick
In today's Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/02/AR2010120203102.html?hpid=topnews Diana * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Diana R. Tomchick Associate Professor University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center Department of

Re: [Texascavers] fascinating microbial research

2010-12-02 Thread caverarch
Though the term Second Genesis is rightfully denied by the investigators, it's an evocative phrase. And at a cruder level it makes an opening for jokes about a 'battle of the Gods and Children of a Lesser God, etc. Roger Moore -Original Message- From: Diana Tomchick

[Texascavers] Houston to San Antonio cavers

2010-12-02 Thread Geary Schindel
Is anyone traveling from Houston to San Antonio in December. I have a well packer I need to have brought to San Antonio and I'm willing to help cover gas expenses. Email or call me off line. Thanks, Geary Schindel 210.326.1576 cell

[PBSS] Fw: Article on Wisconsin WNS management rules

2010-12-02 Thread J. LaRue Thomas
All, The final chance to speak up on the not very well researched, knee-jerk, won't-exactly-help-anyway-but-someone-closer-to-us-may-decide-to-do-this-anyway Wisconsin DNR plan for combatting WNS. I normally try to be a bit more politic in my descriptions of agency follies but I'm at work

[Texascavers] Christmas in Mexico?

2010-12-02 Thread Gary McDaniel
Hey all, I'm likely heading down to San Antonio soon and was wondering about the availability of any open trips to Mexico around the holidays? I've got a capable 4x4 rig with extra space for gear/folks and my own caving equipment. Thanks- Gary McDaniel Texican

Re: [Texascavers] Christmas in Mexico?

2010-12-02 Thread Gill Edigar
I'm not trying to sell you on anything but several of us have decided to avoid Northern Mexico until the bandito problems moderate. I've got business I need to take care of down there but will put it off for a while longer. Even Mexicans are refusing to travel around due to indiscriminate

[Texascavers] Mike Collins

2010-12-02 Thread Gill Edigar
The 2010 Newsletter of the UT Jackson School of GeoSciences indicates that a Michael B. Collins (67 years old) who received a BA in geology in 1970 died in July. Can anybody confirm that he is the Mike Collins who was a UT caver in the late '60s. He had a photo of a 'tigre' taken at Sótano del

Re: [Texascavers] Mike Collins

2010-12-02 Thread Carl Kunath
I am not able to verify this one way or the other but I hope it isn't our Michael Collins who is pictured on page 432 of 50 Years of Texas Caving as the flagman on the brink of Devil's Sinkhole during the 1964 NSS Convention field trip. Anyone have more information? ===Carl Kunath -

Re: [Texascavers] Mike Collins

2010-12-02 Thread Gill Edigar
If it is indeed the same one that attended UT then that would be he at Devil's Sinkhole. He was my room mate in the upstairs room at 611 W 23rd in Austin in the summer of 1968. --Ediger On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Carl Kunath carl.kun...@suddenlink.net wrote: I  am not able to verify this

Re: [Texascavers] Mike Collins

2010-12-02 Thread Tom White
I'm afraid he is our Mike. See http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/statesman/obituary.aspx?n=michael-b-collinspid=143956713 Janie and I knew his family, brother, wives. I was best man at his first wedding. We met his second wife briefly and she was a nice person, too. Though it has been 30+

Re: [Texascavers] Christmas from the General Washington the Cruze Boat

2010-12-02 Thread dirtdoc
Be forwarned.  The last time I did that the boat sank.  Flotation gear is adivsed (by me). The Christmass decortaions are welll put out by the well-to-do in the Bad, though. It is (or was) a good show, especially from Lake Carlsbad (The Damned Pecos). By the way, if it is still there

Re: [NMCAVER] [Texascavers] Christmas from the General Washington the Cruze Boat

2010-12-02 Thread linda starr
Sounds like we need a field trip to the Denton Funeral Home during or before the regional. Linda Starr From: dirt...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 8:19 PM To: Carol Belski Cc: Cave Texas ; Cave NM Subject: Re: [NMCAVER] [Texascavers] Christmas from the General Washington the

[Texascavers] Wisconsin WNS Policy comment Period Ending Soon

2010-12-02 Thread R D Milhollin
There is still time to comment on the Wisconsin DNR WNS Rules - until Dec 3 at 4pm. For everyone that has been following the Wisconsin DNR's misguided WNS management plan. It's not too late to submit comments to Wisconsin regarding their WNS policies which will harm bat populations! We

[Texascavers] Re: Convention prices

2010-12-02 Thread Mark Minton
A version of Mixon's scenario happened at the NSS Convention in Vermont last summer. The venue required that they do many things that caver volunteers would normally have done, and they charged a hefty fee to do so. For instance there was a conspicuous lack of beer. I think there

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Convention prices

2010-12-02 Thread Gill Edigar
When we had the NSS Convention in New Braunfels in 1978 many of us were sick and tired of NSS Conventions costing 70 or 80 dollars, plus the cost of fuel to get there. So we vowed that the Texas convention would not cost that much. Through much volunteer effort we managed to have what was

[Texascavers] The other other white meat

2010-12-02 Thread Geary Schindel
Folks, A fellow employee is giving away two very plump and organically raised guinea pigs with a cage. They even answer when called so you wouldn't have to chase them around the cage to catch them. Anyway, if someone is looking for an alternative to turkey, ham or pork, for Christmas, they