[Texascavers] BOG Agenda Item 6-Tell your BOG to Vote NO

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Re: [Texascavers] [TCR Food]

Don If you can find an organizer I will be happy to help with a main dish or coordinate and produce a side dish I know there are several cavers who have done the same in the past, had a great time, and are eager to do it again For anyone who hasn't and has some aptitude for cooking... step up

[Texascavers] Giving Tuesday

, committee work... These are all necessary to carry on the good work. Thank you for your support of the TCMA and responsible cave management. RD Milhollin Outgoing Director, TCMA Sent from my iPhone ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com

RE: [ot_caving] Hurricane Ike - part 2

- part 2 forward me one please On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:53 AM, RD Milhollin rdmilhol...@charter.net wrote: Charles, are you aware of the indecent offers that have been sneaking into the e-mail in-box of the Cowtown Secretary account? I don't know if other grotto accounts are experiencing

RE: [Texascavers] gas mileage

Could do worse, if this rumor is based on Nico's suggestion to move the gas/mileage discussion to the OT list. _ From: Don Cooper [mailto:wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 7:15 PM To: Nico Escamilla Cc: Sam Young; texas cavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] gas mileage

RE: [ot_caving] Re: [Texascavers] RE: Music in Caves

://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Beefheart They recorded Bongo Fury in 1976 right here in Austin at the World Armadillo Headquarters. -WaV On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 2:13 PM, RD Milhollin rdmilhol...@charter.net wrote: Definitely Wakemen, sans Yes. The album was recorded live, with a full orchestra if I

RE: [Texascavers] RE: Music in Caves

Of Course Tony Levin Rocks. I thought that jazz flautist Paul Horn had recorded one of his Inside albums in a cave, but I cannot find any evidence of that through the net. He isn't dead yet, maybe he could be coaxed into doing so at CWAN or another suitably acoustic cavern. The Inside the Great

RE: [Texascavers] RE: Music in Caves

Definitely Wakemen, sans Yes. The album was recorded live, with a full orchestra if I remember correctly. I seem to remember he set out on a tour with the whole ensemble, but the costs were too great and it ended before schedule. Unrelated, I seem to have a foggy memory about a former sideman

RE: [Texascavers] Music in Caves

I was along as a safety diver with a well-known cave scientist, actually a respected Texas biologist, actually Texas AM's own Tom Iliffe, several years back on a trip to the Atlantic Island of Lanzarotte in the Canary Islands. The cave he was sampling in is a huge lava tube that plunges from a

RE: [Texascavers] Explore a cave?

Not quite under a river, but under a pool... There is a small, gnarly vertically-oriented crawl underneath the terminal pool at Harrell's Cave in San Saba Co. I am sure that when the pool fills the water spills over into the passage and drains away, so it is probably not always air-filled.

RE: [Texascavers] Florida cave diving incident, Austin, TX victim

www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/06/28/0628roundup.html CENTRAL TEXAS DIGEST Austin Poetry Slam regular in coma in Florida COMPILED FROM STAFF REPORTS Saturday, June 28, 2008 AUSTIN Poet hurt in scuba accident Shannon Leigh, a fixture for years on the local spoken-word

RE: [ot_caving] Senator Obama and politics

I have a real problem giving tax money to religious organizations. There is a constitutional boundary that gets crossed when the government and religious groups get tied up together. I don't even believe in giving tax advantage to churches etc. since doing so allows a government agency (IRS) to

RE: [Texascavers] Florida cave diving incident, Austin, TX victim

Try this link. Very talented young lady from all accounts, hope she recovers. www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/06/28/0628roundup.html -Original Message- From: Johnson, Russ (ATX) [mailto:russ.k.john...@westonsolutions.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 2:55 PM

RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

I bet a nuclear accident could REALLY put a dent in them solar panels! _ From: qui...@clearwire.net [mailto:qui...@clearwire.net] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:23 AM To: Don Cooper; o...@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [ot_caving] Texas solar power Devil's advocate here - ;-) I

RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

This all smell like a plan of, by, and for the big corporate energy providers. What about using all the empty roof-top space INSIDE the cities, such as the roofs of malls, Walmarts, grocery stores, car lots, parking lots, strip-centers, individual homes, apartment buildings etc. I can see this as

RE: [ot_caving] spelunker spoon?

A SPORK comes to mind first... -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:02 AM To: o...@texascavers.com Subject: [ot_caving] spelunker spoon? What is a spelunker's spoon?

RE: [ot_caving] an option to drilling

_ From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:05 AM To: Don Cooper Cc: qui...@clearwire.net; Fritz Holt; o...@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [ot_caving] an option to drilling Heard a couple of interesting stories on the news this weekend and

RE: [ot_caving] an option to drilling

I am dumbfounded by the reaction in and around Erath County to the prospect of a potential wind farm development between Lingleville and Gorman. My family's ranch is out there and I spent a lot of time there growing up. I can tell you that ranching is a very iffy prospect, a dry year can spell

[Texascavers] Gia

Looking for Gia from Houston, who attended the recent Deep/Punkin work trip. Please contact me offline. RD Milhollin

[Texascavers] Bats in Arlen Texas

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v10807610GWP32F72 In an episode of King of the Hill, Hank overcomes his fear of bats while floating in a sinking boat down a river and under a bridge with 20,000 bats, at dusk!

RE: [Texascavers] cave food - part 4 The Next Level

Don, That column in BOGUS! I will consider trying the bacon doggie snacks since this dork thoroughly panned one of my favorite Mexican food delicacies... Huitlacoche. The potted meat food is still out of the question though. -Original Message- From: Don Arburn [mailto:donarb...@mac.com]

[ot_caving] Converter Boxes

A colleague asked this on another list... Anyone here with answers? I have gotten my two $40 TV converter box coupons from the government so our old TVs will work when the switch is made to all digital in February 2009. What I am wondering is if any of you have already bought one or more boxes

RE: [ot_caving] Bay Leaves

No, a type of laurel, a bush (with a small case B) _ From: Don Cooper [mailto:wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 8:20 AM To: OT Texas Cavers Subject: [ot_caving] Bay Leaves Dear friend and neighbor claims Bay Leaves are from the Olive Tree - True or Not? -WaV

RE: [Texascavers] Barack Obama a caver?

Come on, it's poetry... how do the figs eat the apes? -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:42 AM To: Texas Cavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Barack Obama a caver? I am confused. How do the apes eat figs and howl in an

RE: [Texascavers] book ideas for ICS

Charles, Who among the NETCavers is a member of the TCMA. I have taken the job of organizing a TCMA Grotto Contact/Liason network to advocate for membership and support for the TCMA Cave Acquisition efforts, and to pass along project and work opportunities at TCMA properties. RD -Original

RE: [ot_caving] RE: TexasCaver

to the nature of the organization -Original Message- From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:13 PM To: RD Milhollin Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [ot_caving] RE: TexasCaver RD, As an old timer and spelunker in years

[Texascavers] TSA/Texas Caver Thread

to the nature of the organization -Original Message- From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:13 PM To: RD Milhollin Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [ot_caving] RE: TexasCaver RD, As an old timer and spelunker in years past, I can only

RE: [Texascavers] TSA/Texas Caver Thread

Diane and Charles, I don't know if you have followed the entire thread (name change and all) but my argument has basically two components: that I and others feel that there is not sufficient return on an individual level to justify $20 membership for the TSA; and that the situatiojn could be

[ot_caving] TSA: Cost/Benefit

6:19 PM To: RD Milhollin Cc: o...@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [ot_caving] RE: TexasCaver The TSA does have funds for land/cave purchase, its invested currently. I don't know if it was approved, but I do know a grant was put forth towards the TSA for $1200 to help improve Honey Creek entrance

RE: [ot_caving] RE: TexasCaver

-Original Message- From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:29 PM To: mark.al...@l-3com.com; Charles Goldsmith Cc: Kara Savvas; Johnson, Russ (ATX); imoca...@comcast.net; Scott Nicholson; o...@texascavers.com Subject: RE:

RE: [ot_caving] RE: TexasCaver

Hmm, I can't seem to get this to post righ... let me try this message for the third time: Fritz, for the sake of good natured argument, please enumerate said benefits and the value you place on those. -Original Message- From: RD Milhollin [mailto:rdmilhol...@charter.net] Sent

RE: [ot_caving] RE: TexasCaver

in the dues, as was mentioned in a previous post. -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 5:48 PM To: RD Milhollin Cc: o...@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [ot_caving] RE: TexasCaver I'll chime in here, as a TSA member

RE: [ot_caving] RE: TexasCaver

Charles, Thanks for engaging in discussion. I asked for a civil discussion, and I hope I participated thusly. I appreciate you sticking your head up and offering a comeback to my questions, I know your feeling is genuine but I do feel it strengthed my argument, since your examples are those most

[ot_caving] Attachments?

I wonder ... ??? Given this list is populated by only the texasCaver list members who don't want to hear about anything other than rocks and air (and a little water) in a particular configuration, What is the correlation between non-ot-list cavers and cavers who don't want attachments on their

RE: [Texascavers] Big cave chamber picture taking logistics.

Lyndon, Best results are obtained by placing the light source away from the camera. Backscatter is a big problem underwater of course, but even in humid/moist cave environments this is going to be a problem, a bigger problem the further the object is from the camera. So the rig you are thinking

RE: [Texascavers] OT - Three-Fogelburg Island

I don't know if durn hippie is a very apt description of the man, or a fair characterization of his music. Environmental Conservationist comes to mind as a more fair description of what he was doing, in this song at least. The lyrics posted were from Face the Fire, off the album Phoenix, 1979.

[Texascavers] RE: (OT) El Paso: West Texas Character

I was passing through El Paso the other night as well, though I did stop. On the way back I was trying to find a listenable radio station and stumbled onto 93.5 FM, which was probably broadcast from Alpine or somewhere else. The program on was pre-recorded, and was an interview with Texas

[Texascavers] More Twain and Thanksgiving

Thanksgiving Day. Let all give humble, hearty, and sincere thanks now, but the turkeys. In the island of Fiji they do not use turkeys; they use plumbers. It does not become you and me to sneer at Fiji. Twain - Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar

RE: [Texascavers] Paella

I have had paella several times in northern Spain, in restaurants and in the homes of residents there. Each time it was similar, maybe a regional Cantabrian variation of the dish, but it was best described as a rice casserole with fish and seafood cooked in. I believe the fish and then seafood

[Texascavers] Rabies feared after bats take over dorm

From MSNBC http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20870285/?GT1=10357 Rabies feared after bats take over dorm TSU Students Screened For Rabies After Bats Invade Dorm Number of Rabies Cases in Bats Up Statewide Updated: 10:56 a.m. CT Sept 19, 2007 HOUSTON - An infestation of bats at Texas Southern

RE: [Texascavers] socks for 54 degree wet caves

David, I use some socks that are 90% nylon and 10% lycra under my neoprene caving socks. I found this Nike product at Academy for about $10 per pair, and originally sought them out to prevent or mitigate chafing from full-foot fins during underwater hockey games. My neoprene socks are a little

RE: [Texascavers] AMCS newsletters CD

Back issues of speleological literature on CDs is a great idea. Thanks Bill for working this up, and thanks Ernie for posting about it. BTW, for the fuzzy newsletters: would it be possible to scan them in and use character-recognition software to recapture the text for republication?

RE: [Texascavers] Old caving gear?

Whatever is still usable by someone (cheap, broke, student) might well be donated to the TCMA auctions. This would be akin to recycling caving gear into caves. -Original Message- From: Don Cooper [mailto:wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 2:46 PM To: gi...@att.net

RE: [Texascavers] RE: [How to cook bats]

The stewed rat I had in SLP reminded me of dove. It was cooked in a tomato base with chiles and some vegetables, sort of like a rich soup. The rat was a little gamey, all dark meat, but very tender. Our hostess bought the meat in a local market, and we were assured that they were trapped by

[Texascavers] Texas Cave Vandal Law Signed

Lawmakers stiffen penalties for cave vandals By David Saleh Rauf The Herald-Zeitung Published June 20, 2007 Deep beneath the surface: That�s where some of Texas� most revered natural resources � caves, caverns and rare rock formations � can be found. Each year, the largest of

[Texascavers] Aboveground Caves

There is an above ground cave three floors up in Downtown Fort Worth. It was originally discovered in the process of converting two old buildings in to the semi-legendary Caravan of Dreams, and appropriately enough it was incorporated into the unique entertainment venue as the Grotto Bar. I

RE: FW: [Texascavers] rattlesnake hoax

MessageHow about Merkel that little town just west of Abilene with the charming video and book store, a convenient stop on the way to Carlsbad from Fort Worth. -Original Message- From: Butch Fralia [mailto:cave...@charter.net] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 5:39 PM To: 'Fritz Holt';

Re: [Texascavers] admin email and list bounces

Charles 'wokka' Goldsmith wrote: For those of you who post to the list, you have probably been seeing some weird admin or bounce messages. These are safe to ignore and delete. Please do so with my apologies. The problem is hopefully resolved and no one will get anymore of these. If you do

[Mav-list] [Fwd: [Texascavers] Guano Gathering reminder and update]

Again, If you are interested in joining in for reasonably comfortable caving Saturday contact be ASAP and I will let you know what we have planned. Attachment is Jim Kennedy's last minute reminder from Texascavers list. ---BeginMessage--- Guanophiles, Don't forget that the annual Guano

RE: [Texascavers] attachments

Was she referring to the cartoon of David Locklear whistling to himself with the tail-wagging dog grining from the front seat of the Hybrid car while the owner of huge SUV shouts Shut Up while both are fueling at the petrol station? -Original Message- From: Charles 'wokka' Goldsmith

Re: [Texascavers] Glasses vs. Contact Lenses

McNett Outdoors makes a product called OpDrops that works well on glasses. This is a liquid, but they used to make a product called Sea Ice that worked great, but was in gel form. I couldn't find sea ice on their website, but here is the link to OpDrops.

CaveTex: Fort Worth Batman in the News

Cowtown Grotto caver Wayne Peplinski spoke to the Fort Worth City Council this morning, and was interviewed by the media afterwards. The topic listed on the council agenda was Downtown bat population benefits and current status, and Wayne explained to the council how bat habitat has been recently

CaveTex: LA Daily News Article About Fort Worth Bats

Looks like the word about the bats in Fort Worth (the murcialagos, not those at LaGrave Field) is getting around. http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~20954~2978544,00.html To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to mailto:majord...@cavetex.net with the following message--unsubscribe cavetex. For