Re: [Texascavers] Federal shutdown, etc.

2019-01-22 Thread jerryatkin
I agree with Jacqui. Take your negative diatribes offline. Nobody wants to hear it ! Jerry. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 22, 2019, at 7:58 AM, Jacqueline Thomas wrote: > > May I suggest when we have a personal issue with an individual on this list > that we contact that person directly? >

Re: [Texascavers] Federal shutdown, etc.

2019-01-22 Thread Jacqueline Thomas
May I suggest when we have a personal issue with an individual on this list that we contact that person directly? This leaves the rest of us to pursue what started to be an interesting discussion of constructive ways to help folks who are furloughed due to the shutdown. Jacqui J. LaRue

Re: [Texascavers] Federal shutdown, etc.

2019-01-22 Thread Michael Gibbons
I misspell shit because it drives yall freaking batty. Check you own spelling. Your far from purfect. On Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 7:50 AM Bill Steele Michael Gibbons, here, this may help. > > hypocrite - > > https://www.google.com/search?q=hypocrite+meaning=UTF-8=UTF-8=en-us=safari > > Hippocrates - >

Re: [Texascavers] Federal shutdown, etc.

2019-01-22 Thread Michael Gibbons
All I'm saying is if there is a rule that only gets applied when I have a say that is no more or less about caving or cave related topic matter than the person I'm addressing then yall are the ones with the problem. BTW I listen to y'alls points of view constantly. And yall pushed me right by

Re: [Texascavers] Federal shutdown, etc.

2019-01-22 Thread John Brooks
Oh good grief Michael - become an adult. Many of us don’t want to listen to your radicalized political views any more than you want to listen to ours. This list is about CAVES and CAVING. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 22, 2019, at 7:42 AM, Michael Gibbons <6453...@gmail.com> wrote: > > So

Re: [Texascavers] Federal shutdown, etc.

2019-01-22 Thread Bill Steele
Michael Gibbons, here, this may help. hypocrite - https://www.google.com/search?q=hypocrite+meaning=UTF-8=UTF-8=en-us=safari Hippocrates - https://www.google.com/search?q=hippocrates=UTF-8=UTF-8=en-us=safari > On Jan 22, 2019, at 7:42 AM, Michael Gibbons <6453...@gmail.com> wrote: > > So

Re: [Texascavers] Federal shutdown, etc.

2019-01-22 Thread Michael Gibbons
So the politically charged federal shutdown is caving related and the facts, undistorted as they are, about the politically charged shutdown is propaganda. I'm not even gonna justisfy that complete lack of anything logic, with a response. I knew there was a reason I quit joining any discussion in

Re: [Texascavers] Federal shutdown, etc.

2019-01-22 Thread John Brooks
How did political propaganda creep onto the Texas Cavers email list ? Reinstate the ban on political discussions - keep this list ABOUT CAVES & CAVING. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 22, 2019, at 5:00 AM, Michael Gibbons <6453...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Write Chuck and Nancy and tell them to

Re: [Texascavers] Federal shutdown, etc.

2019-01-22 Thread Michael Gibbons
Write Chuck and Nancy and tell them to pretend their not hippocrates and like they did when Obama was in office. In Chuckles words when defending his unwavering position on a border barrier and the 670mi he sponsored. Walls don't work, fences do. As he was coming out of DNC headquarters,

Re: [Texascavers] Federal shutdown, etc.

2019-01-22 Thread Missy Singleton
I agree with what Kathy said. As a Fed we are regularly warned/taught about what we should and should not say regarding political issues to others and on social media. The furlough sucks financially and environmentally. Im actually stressed about not working because I know all the time

Re: [Texascavers] Federal shutdown, etc.

2019-01-22 Thread Michael Gibbons
Trump signed a new bill into law a few days ago that will back pay the furloughed federal employees with very few exceptions. It was democratic sponsored bill that passed the Senate and the house and was signed as soon as it hit trump's desk. But of course the media didn't cover it. They don't

Re: [Texascavers] Federal shutdown, etc.

2019-01-21 Thread Katherine Arens
yes, he may get paid IF he’s actually working without pay — and it’s likely the interest will add up. THis is a rotten situation for federal employees. Write your local congressperson .. . whatever side you’re on katie On Jan 21, 2019, at 8:50 PM, Michael Gibbons

Re: [Texascavers] Federal shutdown, etc.

2019-01-21 Thread Michael Gibbons
They will all get back paid when it's over. I'm sure his mortgage company will understand. Especially if he drops them a line. On Mon, Jan 21, 2019, 1:25 PM Cathy Winfrey How David. > If a Federal Employee wants to go the distance, they will keep their > opinions very close. Not air them on a

Re: [Texascavers] Federal shutdown, etc.

2019-01-21 Thread Cathy Winfrey
How David. If a Federal Employee wants to go the distance, they will keep their opinions very close. Not air them on a public forum. My brother works for the Forest Service, and will talk to me, but never where his opinions can be overheard. He's NOT watching the news, and doing woodworking

[Texascavers] Federal shutdown, etc.

2019-01-18 Thread David
There is all sorts of stuff to talk about, yet it seems quiet out there on CaveTex. Any of you affected by the gov't shutdown. I recall there is a caver who works for the Border Patrol or something similar to that. I know a semi-retired caver it east Texas ( who would prefer to remain anonymous