I've been experiencing some wonky behavior with drafts and other
state being restored at unexpected times, but have yet to come up
with a reliable way to reproduce (or even just articulate) the issue
I've now had a two or three reports of what sounds like the same
problem [...] Any help
Hello all,
While evaluating TW5, I've written a set of scripts to convert Delicious
bookmars into tiddler (*.tid) files:
https://gist.github.com/FND/8332337
After exporting the bookmarks (via Settings Manage within Delicious):
$ ./delicious2json delicious-2014-01-09.html
I entirely agree with cdent here (surprise!), and his explanations don't
leave much else for me to say.
I would argue that also a standard TiddlyWiki is dished out via some
server, hence serving tiddlers in a predefined way.
I don't understand the meaning of this. Are you simply saying there
Can you - or anybody - point on features that this plugins have beyond
the feature set of YourSearch plugin?
It's not really about features; TidQL is a very different approach.
Instead of performing a full-text search, TidQL allows me to drill into
my content base by gradually refining the
*lipsum* | modifier FND`)...
It would be nice if the macro could save a successful search
That might be a nice extension - it's not something I intend to
implement though.
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FWIW, I'm still happily using TiddlerEncryptionPlugin, using
EncryptionDecryptAll ... ... d to decrypt all tiddlers on
keypress - so after loading the document, I simply press ALT+D to
bring up the decryption dialog, enter my password, then hit ALT+F to
search. This has worked well for me for
http://tidql.tiddlyspace.com
TidQL (tiddler query language) is a simple plugin that extends
TiddlyWiki's search macro with a jQuery-like query language.
It is triggered by entering a search term beginning with ?., e.g.
* ?.title(Ba)
* ?.tag(bar).text(adi).attr(modifier, fnd)
Browsing my
There should be a list/tree somewhere with as many plugins as possible
The community could write plugin descriptions/reviews - e.g. tagged
tiddlers on TiddlySpace which could then be aggregated.
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It should be a showcase and example of excellence for TW.
[...]
I don't see anything wrong in moving to tiddlyspace. If anything it
shall rejuvenate the documentation process.
Indeed, such a move would be quite welcome for the reasons stated.
However, having been the primary/sole maintainer
FYI, I have left Osmosoft[1], so I might not be quite as active around
here anymore. Not sure yet how much time I'll be able to devote to
Tiddly* in the future.
In particular, it remains to be seen how this departure will affect my
involvement in TiddlyWiki's core development. It's always been a
I cannot get any tiddlywiki to load.
This might be of interest:
http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Corruption
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there's no visual indication that the script has run [...] is there
any way to animate the button/label clicking event?
If I recall correctly, InlineJavascriptPlugin provides a place
variable for the button - so you could do something like this:
jQuery(place).fadeOut(function(ev) {
You might want to post to the tiddlyweb group instead:
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlyweb
My Problem is, that I can reach correctly the HOME Entry Page of
TiddlyWeb (1.2.8), but the server_prefix-value, that I adapted in
tiddlywebconfig.py is not used at all (The Links to recipes
Is it possible to build a custom TW with a recipe, but excluding edit
and save capabilities.
It's possible to cook a custom TiddlyWiki with a recipe that excludes
modules like FileSystem and Upgrade. Editing functionality would
probably be quite hard to exclude though.
FWIW, we'll probably
I may be wrong, but isn't the _hash field at tiddlyspace a sha1? I
know, that it is calculated serverside.
That's right, it's a SHA1 hash calculated server-side.
But there has been some discussion about hashing the rest of the
tiddlers metadata. As far as I can remember, there was the tenor,
Below you'll find the diff of a TiddlyWiki, where I have problems,
with a freshly downloaded, empty one.
I don't mind diffs (indeed, it's a good idea) - but in this case, it
leaves me a bit stumped.
So let me explain what I did to reproduce:
* downloaded a fresh TiddlyWiki
* created a tiddler
fields are represented as members of the fields object, e.g.:
{
title: Foo,
modifier: FND,
...
tags: [bar, baz],
text: lorem ipsum dolor sit amet,
fields: {
alpha: hello,
bravo: world
}
}
You might want to inspect a Tiddler instance using Firebug:
var
A side question: - what does the href=javascript:; part mean?
This is common practice to indicate that an anchor's target is not a URI
(i.e. it's not a link), but rather an action (i.e. it's a button).
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I edited the tiddler and removed the squared brackets. The link is
still there and foo bar is still listed as missing. There is no
other tiddler referencing foo bar.
Is there perhaps some other reference to foo bar in the document, e.g.
in macro parameters? Can you provide a simple test case
I use Linux and would like to see example of cURL command.
It's pretty simple - for example, to delete a tiddler Foo from my
private bag, I would use the following:
$ curl -v -u fnd:mypassword -X DELETE \
http://fnd.tiddlyspace.com/bags/fnd_private/tiddlers/Foo
There are more examples
My mistake. I pasted in content in the pre/post header section that
caused my tiddlyspace dadi.tiddlyspace.com to go blank. Can I delete
those tiddlers and restore the view? Not even backstage shows.
dadi.tiddlyspace.com looks fine to me - have you fixed it already?
Perhaps try a force
What I notice as well is that when I try to import via backstage I get
the following error
Error getting list of tiddlers, click Cancel to try again
Which browser are you using? Chrome, for example, doesn't allow HTTP
requests off a file URI:
http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Google_Chrome
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Error while executing macro jtab:
RangeError: Maximum call stack size exceeded
Well, that's curious - not sure what might be causing this.
It seems unlikely that will help, but have you tried adding the
DeprecatedFunctionsPlugin:
http://www.tiddlywiki.com/coreplugins.html
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the page template tiddler. it looks like html , but it doesn't act
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It's (X)HTML, but extended with a few custom attributes:
http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Extended_Attributes
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FWIW, there's a yet-undocumented, unofficial and not-fully-tested safe
mode which *deletes* (as in, erase irretrievably) all default tiddlers
from the respective space.
It can be invoked by appending /_safe to the space URL (e.g.
http://fnd.tiddlyspace.com/_safe).
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So if I //did// want my better Wordpress (I've always wanted the
flexibility of TW in a true blog setting [...]) do you think it
would be easier to pursue the comment function within TiddlySpace, or
would it be better to install TiddlyWeb/TiddlyWebWiki somewhere as a
completely separate
A includes B which includes C which contains public tiddler T
Is is corrent that B can find T but A cannot?
T should be available in all of A, B and C (unless there's a tiddler of
the same name in A or B, as that would take precedence).
In other words, nested (or recursive) inclusion is
When you said I drop the files into a TW, what do you mean by that?
What's your proccess for getting the text files' data into TiddlyWiki?
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note the *subject* of this posting
... using FileDropPlugin
Right, of course - sorry about that.
So I've installed Autokey on my Lucid box, and have been able to
reproduce the issue - but I'm not sure what's going on.
To ensure that the file has the right encoding, I've tried both of the
it *seems* the issue is reading and interpreting the file - i.e. with
FileDropPlugin somewhere.
I've just confirmed this by creating a file with some Unicode characters
in Vim, taking Autokey out of the equation (should've done this from the
start, sigh).
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Can you post your Python script so we can have a look?
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For 1), yes I know of the backstage member listing, but the idea was
to be able to present members more prominently and perhaps also
manipulate such a list - Tobias Beer - theme creator, ...
You can retrieve the list of members fairly easily:
var callback = function(members, status, xhr)
whether [manually adding a content type field is] a hack [...] I'm
not sure
I don't think it's a hack at all - why would it be?
In order to not burden the user with technical details, one could use
the NewTiddler macro to create a New Image button which automatically
sets that field - or
There might be fields containing linebreaks... which should be
rendered into textareas.
This should not be encouraged IMO.
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[field values with line breaks] should not be encouraged IMO
I should probably elaborate a bit:
The tiddler concept encourages human control. Slices, for example, are a
simple way for regular users to enter key-value data - they just need to
edit the tiddler body. In contrast, fields operate on
In general, I'd think it even were beneficial for the server if it was
the client that generated the RSS feed and all the server would have
to do is to save it in the appropriate location.
After generating the feed, a plugin could PUT it in a tiddler with
It looks like a recent change to disable the old import macro has
removed code required to make the import tool work.
I've just tried it and have gathered enough data to raise a ticket. I
suspect it'll get fixed in the next 24 hours or so.
I'm all about the SLAs:
Any news from the development front?
Last time I looked at this, I got mego*, as it seemed like it wasn't a
*minimal* test case. It's possible I just didn't grok what was going on
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How to import a TW theme to TiddlySpace?
I've tried entering e.g. http://tiddlythemes.com/empties/Rin.html into
ImportTiddlers yet it results in an Unable to import from this
location due to cross-domain restrictions. error.
You cannot import directly from another site - instead, you need to
I'd like to employ the Template: Chess diagram (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucena_position for an example from the
Wikipedia) into my own tiddlywiki's.
I assume you are referring to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Chess_diagram
Wikipedia uses the MediaWiki engine, which is a
I would probably build that from scratch
That reminds me:
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/t/c8c5ab8c0b50c41a
http://gist.github.com/353337
I also just stumbled across this, not sure how relevant it is though:
http://www.chess.com/download/view/tiddlywiki-chess-training-journal
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slider chkTxtHidden [[CurrentTiddlerTitle##Hidden]] More...
[...]
I'm wonder is there a parameter represent the current tiddler title?
You can use evaluated parameters, which provide access to the global
tiddler variable:
slider chkTxtHidden {{ tiddler.title + ##Hidden }} More...
HTH.
Documentation, documentation ... :P
I hear you, but ...
http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Macros#Evaluated_Parameters
While that's not very helpful at this point, everyone is welcome to
improve it (including improving discoverability) - it's a wiki after all.
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there's just so many of these (simple) solutions that TiddlySpace
is now cut off as evaluated parameters are being turned off. Is there
any plan to generalize access to fields for basic evaluation in
macros ...i.e. evaluated parameters in a kind of safe mode?
Martin is currently looking into
I decided to upgrade to Lucid Lynx. Now I can't read two of the
wikis that I created.
I assume you're using Firefox? It all works fine for me on Lucid.
I type their file:///home/user/Desktop/path/area.html,
and the browser ignores it and still shows whatever it was being shown
before.
I need to display the edit function online.
chkHttpReadOnly alone doesn't suffice - see here:
http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Read-Only_Mode
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Also try it with a fresh browser profile:
http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Troubleshooting
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager
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Guys how does one go about translating TW?
See here:
http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Translations
Please start a new thread if you have any further questions on this topic.
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If I have right access to someone else's space, and they then change
their own password - does that then remove my right access to their
space?
If a TiddlySpace user changes their password, that only affects their
own user account - i.e. it does not have any effect on space membership.
In
Assuming you're using a Unix OS:
* check out the Subversion repository:
http://svn.tiddlywiki.org
(this might take a while)
* create a wrapper script (e.g. ~/bin/ck):
#!/usr/bin/env sh
export TW_TRUNKDIR=$HOME/Dev/TiddlyWiki/svn.tiddlywiki.org
$TW_TRUNKDIR/tools/cooker/bash/ck $@
I cannot open http://foo.com/#My%20Tiddler%20With%20Spaces
It tries to open http://foo.com/#My
I hope I am just encoding the URL incorrectly
Tiddler titles with spaces must be enclosed in double brackets (hit the
permaview or permalink buttons and check your browser's location bar).
Note this
While I can see the issue, it takes a lot of effort to identify what's
going on there - can you create a minimal test case?
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Create a space called EvaluatedParameters which one can include to
ones own space, which reactivates parameter evaluation
Here's all that's necessary for that:
http://sandbox.tiddlyspace.com/#EvaluatedMacroParameters
(Note the Requires slice and systemConfigDisable tag.)
I'm uncomfortable
Is it possible to protect individual tiddlers when including another
space that will otherwiser overwrite the current ones
This should ever happen; your own tiddlers always take precedence over
included ones. If space Alpha includes space Bravo, and both spaces have
a tiddler Foo, Alpha's Foo
it in a script in a different Tiddler?
config.extensions.myPlugin = {
mySetting: lorem ipsum,
myFunction: function() { return foo; }
};
This might be of interest:
http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Dev:Plugin_Specifications#Template
http://svn.tiddlywiki.org/Trunk/contributors/FND/plugins
Could you explain - or point to an explanation of -
the difference between fetchTiddler and getTiddler, and why one is
higher than the other?
See this adjacent discussion:
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/msg/a4b11061a9ba8750
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var tid = store.fetchTiddler('your tiddler title');
It's probably better to use the higher-level getTiddler method instead.
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deleted.tiddlyspace.com
Seconded.
store.deleteTiddler(t); [...] does no work on tiddlyspace
You wanna use the higher-level removeTiddler method, as that's what the
ServerSideSavingPlugin hooks into.
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Since we're at it, in what respect is...
store.removeTiddler a higher level method than store.getTiddler
(or store.getTiddler higher than store.fetchTiddler)
The high-level getTiddler method uses low-level fetchTiddler:
I know you have write it because i try to reverse it in the couch
concept [...] tiddlyweb (that i use also)
Oh, good to know.
So to port TW on couch, we have 2 solutions ,the port the tiddlyweb
concept on another db backend like it was done with mysql for Tspace
(i think), or the build of a
For the future, i'm busy to split the TW file structure in the
couchapp one, and then i'll try to fine tune the result during my
freetime [...] So be patient ... or faster than me
Actually, why don't we combine our efforts? I don't have a whole lot of
experience with CouchDB, but wanted to get
This looks pretty nifty - good job, and thanks for sharing!
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OK...I have put some simple examples in an empty TW here -
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/284644/empty.html
This is not exactly a *minimal* test case, so I'm not sure what exactly
to look for - however, the following line looks very dodgy:
div class='viewer' macro='tiddler Format with:
I downloaded a new copy of the empty.html, opened it (WinXP SP3, FF
3.6 or IE 8) and saved it (with the save-Button on the right side).
The original file`s size was 360 kB, the saved one is only 33 kB - and
when I open it with the browser, I see just some plain text...
This might be of
NB: Strictly development-related issues are better discussed on the dev
group (http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWikiDev/) - you're more
likely to get competent help there.
Say I need the name of a tiddler in the event function of
createTiddlyButton
The way you presented it, with the
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Can you create a minimal test case*, posting a document with only those
customizations necessary to reproduce the issue? (Here I would imagine
that means adding TaggedTemplateTweak and your ViewTemplate to a vanilla
TiddlyWiki.)
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Could you give us an example how to build a table by changing the DOM
directly.
Sure:
---
(function($) { // use $ as local alias for jQuery
var table = $(table /);
$(tr /).
append(thTitle/th).
append(thDate/th).
appendTo(table);
var tiddlers =
I'm wondering if it is possible to have a special save and keep
editing button that keeping the tiddler remained in edit mode
This might be of interest:
http://svn.tiddlywiki.org/Trunk/contributors/FND/plugins/QuickSavePlugin.js
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but there definetely is no internal
authentication or integrity key that would disallow using a simple
text-editor.
Correct - nevertheless, editing the raw source can be dangerous, as it
circumvents the usual verifications (e.g. escaping special characters).
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Your script works nice. But what if I want to add a column for a
custom field called Keyword?
out.push(|!Title|!Date|!Keyword|h); // create tabel header
[...]
out.push( |[[ + tids[i].title + ]] + | + tids[i].created +| +
tids[i].fields.keyword +|);
(Personally, I'd construct the table using
One thing I thought of, might be to use 'couchdb' with TiddlyWiki to
fabricate a shared. distributed REST-ful TiddlyWiki style wiki.
Using CouchDB as backend would indeed be awesome.
There has been some interest in this before[1][2] - personally, I think
it'd be great if there was a couch app
Can I change the date format?
tids[i].created.formatString(-0MM-0DD 0hh:0mm);
see http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Timestamps
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2.6.1 releas message says:
*enhance toolbar macro syntax to render tiddler/slice/section content
inline (ticket #610)
[...] I couldn't get it to work.
That entry is a bit misleading, due to it being copied verbatim from the
ticket. The solution we went with in the end was to provide a hook
BTW, is anything executed on the TSpace server or is it only local CPU/
memory time that decide speed (other than algorithms in core+plugins)?
It's still just a regular TiddlyWiki (though augmented with a variety of
plugins, of course) - so the basic paradigm of computation happening on
the
I'd like to know if it's possible to include the modifier's name [...]
on every RSS feed?
You could use a small plugin that hijacks and extends tiddlerToRssItem:
(function() {
var _tiddlerToRssItem = tiddlerToRssItem;
tiddlerToRssItem = function(tiddler, uri) {
var author =
does it support keyboard shout cut?
There's nothing built into the plugin, and adding access keys to toolbar
commands is a tricky issue anyway (if there are multiple tiddlers opened
in the story, which one should be acted upon?).
You could make it the the default command* for the EditTemplate
Concerning this specific comment -- There probably SHOULD be an
authentication MAC5 or similar tag applied to edits.
That's a very simple way to prevent anyone making changes you didn't
know about or authorise (etc.)
That's not exactly the wiki spirit...
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I think there will be a hash soon in tiddlyspace. which will be a
unique number.
will the hash be unique in the world, or unique to the space?
To expand on what Jeremy has already said, TiddlySpace's hashing is not
meant to be used as unique identifier[1][2] for individual tiddlers, but
is
Since this is a maintenance release, is it correct to assume that
there are no consequences for translators c.q. TW translations?
There were two minor changes:
invalidCookie message was added:
http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/changeset/12283
unused openError message was removed:
I think there will be a hash soon in tiddlyspace. which will be a
unique number.
Well, the hash will be calculated from the tiddler body, so tiddlers
with the same content but different metadata (e.g. tags) will have the
same hash.
I don't know, if the new .revision counter is unique?
You
Append serial number to a custom field so that when I add a
tiddler, it will be labeled 001, and subsequent tiddlers 002,
003,etc.
You could hijack the saveTiddler method, automatically adding this
custom field (presumably determining the latest ID on startup):
We are pleased to announce the release of TiddlyWiki 2.6.1: [...]
http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/History
FWIW, we've also updated TiddlyWebWiki and TiddlySpace to use this
latest version, and I expect that we will be taking advantage of the
subtle enhancements as we continue development of
Here is the file: http://www.giffmex.org/NotasGiffmex.html
1. When I rightclick to save to a folder and then open the saved file
in the folder, it tells me it wasn't saved properly.
Works fine for me - perhaps it was a temporary fluke and your download
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if granularity is an important issue then maybe it'd make sense to
have the default TSpace space created such by default?
I assume that by default TSpace space, you are referring to the set of
default plugins, customizations etc. (drawn from the core bags,
currently system and tiddlyspace)?
A problem when including/copying a limited set of tiddlers that
contain macro calls is that you might not have included the tiddlers
with the macro definitions and this causes errors.
While it's tempting to create a technical solution for this kind of
issue, I'm not sure that's the right
they can hit an update button to import
anything I have added to the master copy I have online
You could *probably* (ab)use the upgrade mechanism by instructing
TiddlyWiki to use your master copy instead of that from tiddlywiki.com:
Unless I misunderstand something, including a space resets the 'local
layout' to the layout of that last included space.
That might be a side-effect if the included space contains tiddlers with
customizations or a theme overriding the default TiddlySpace theme
(though the current space's
Quick question, did you wrap the macro code of TiddlyChartsPlugin
with...
(function($) {
})(jQuery);
...so that you could use jQuery commands inside it?
That closure is used to provide a local alias (i.e. shortcut):
http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Dev:Best_Practices#Creating_Aliases
We are pleased to announce the first beta of TiddlyWiki 2.6.1:
http://www.tiddlywiki.com/beta/
This is a maintenance release, containing a variety of bugfixes and
enhancements:
http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/History
As usual, help testing this release would be greatly appreciated -
While an ID gets generated for the tiddler and contains the title,
the spaces are not removed or replaced.
I'm afraid that's a known issue which can't be fixed without breaking
backwards compatibility:
http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/ticket/472
Since spaces function as selectors in CSS, the
When registering for a new profile, with the intention of creating a
blog, I wanted to use my name... but apparently it must be all lower
case. Can't really see why?
The primary reason is that we need spaces to be valid hostnames (for the
subdomain; e.g. foo.tiddlyspace.com), and we don't want
are there any plans to add syntax highlighting for code snipets.
http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Syntax_Highlighting
HTH.
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FND. could you update this?
http://hoster.peermore.com/recipes/TiddlyWikiPatterns/tiddlers.wiki#server.content-type
I'm not quite sure what the intent is there - especially when
considering useful resources already exists:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_media_type
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I've always found it tricky to know how big a TiddlyWiki is and how
much of it I've consumed.
Indeed, the curse of hypertext...
I've just written a plugin that aims to help with this - it shows you
how much of the current document you have read and provides links to
both the read and unread
Is is possible not to show tiddlers [...] side by side
This might be of interest:
http://fnd.lewcid.org/tmp/PIMTheme.html
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/52c4f2c7700ad669
Note that what appears to be story columns are just floated tiddlers,
which is hardly
Can it be that the link provided is incorrect?
That reminds me, Zooko, that I haven't received updates on your blog in
ages - turns out that the URL seems no longer valid:
versions,
then release stable versions on TiddlySpace - usually with a simple
deployment script:
http://github.com/FND/tiddlyspace/blob/bulkops/deploy.sh
However, that's ultimately up to the individual author's preferences -
it's perfectly fine to not use a version control system if that's
I have an extremely old version of TW
Which version is this, exactly? You can find this out either via the
version macro or by looking at the document's source in a text edit,
which should give you a line like the following:
var version = {title: TiddlyWiki, major: 2, minor: 6, revision:
No, I am using Camino.
Camino actually uses the same rendering engine (Gecko) as Firefox, which
might explain your issue; presumably they are a little behind Firefox in
updating the engine.
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A problem with this way or working is when I do searching, no matter
what keyword I use (Chinese, or English), The ENGLISH titles of tiddlers
are shown.
You could use transclusion:
{{en{
tiddler foo [en]
}}}
{{zh{
tiddler foo [zh]
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