[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

Ciao Mat I had noticed Erwan's Community Search. But I never used it much because (1) its very incomplete, (2) way behind now, (3) has lots of links that go nowhere (deceased links, old). What I did NOT know till I read your post was that folk wit

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

Ciao Mat @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > My 3rd question is: Why are *you* not using it :-) > Actually, I see you are, though it ain't listing anything of the last 24 hours, and a lot longer too :-) Best wishes Josiah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

Josiah, I had noticed Erwan's Community Search. > But I never used it much > because (1) its very incomplete, (2) way behind now, (3) has lots of links > that go nowhere (deceased links, old). > > What I did NOT know till I read your post was that

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

Instead of another unrecognized 3rd-party system, why not have a page that lists and describes Plugins at TiddlyWiki.com? Similar to the community listings except consolidated in one page. The individual description tiddlers could follow a standard format so people could copy and submit (possib

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

Mark S. wrote: > > Instead of another unrecognized 3rd-party system, why not have a page that > lists and describes Plugins at TiddlyWiki.com? Similar to the community > listings except consolidated in one page. The individual description > tiddlers could follow a standard format so people could

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

Ciao Mat There is *much *in your reply. You articulated ONE thing spectacularly well ... but the general problem is of course how people should find (and find out > about) everything concerning TW. > I agree the issue is not plugins per se. Finding them is merely *an instance* of that broader

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

Hello, Sorry but I disagree with all of you. Please take a look at https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2817 to se my motivations. I think the best place to put tiddlywiki plugins is npm. Just think about it, how do you install tiddlywiki on node? from npm, them, where will probabl

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

I mean that there is too many resources scattered in too many places. Having a list right at TiddlyWiki.com would mean that people didn't have to go to a forum to find out that they can go to a site and so forth. With a simple list, people could submit their plugins either to the forum directly

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

> I think the best place to put tiddlywiki plugins is npm. > [...] > Obviously this is not for the users that access tiddlywiki from > tiddlywiki.com, but for all people that uses the node-js version this > will be the desired way. > That thing is one definite restriction. So it would be not

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

Not everyone uses npm, and I suspect most people at least start out using TW from TiddlyWiki.com. That's why it makes sense to have everything available from TiddlyWiki.com. Unless ... you're suggesting that TW become a full-time npm program, dropping the single-file, platform-independent forma

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

Out of curiosity, wasn't the entire "selling point" if you will with TW was that it was one file and portable? Setting this up on node is neat and a great learning experience but the more it seems TW goes in the direction of being hosted via node, the more sense it seems to replace it with an ac

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

I like the idea of integrating a plugin discovery/search in the single file TW because that will always be my preferred platform. In the meantime, though, why not just add something to the group descriptions, especially in the TiddlyWikiDocs group, that says, "Hey! General Tiddlywiki documentati

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

It should be a sticky post/thread at the top of this group. I'm imagining a *single* maintained posting, if that can be arranged (otherwise, it'll become too lengthy/tedious to browse/use). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsu

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

There is a fairly comprehensive list on the Reddit group but I'm not sure if anyone stepped up to moderate it after riz said he was stepping down. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

Hi Mat, How would you use twederation for this? I realise it would be a new version of twederation. No matter what, we need to get twederated. When we get there, we will see lots of new ideas and possibilities. Birthe Den torsdag den 27. april 2017 kl. 18.55.38 UTC+2 skrev Mat: > > This is

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

What Riz did was awesome. Such is pace its already out of date. We need a SYSTEM that keeps up. Josiah On Friday, 5 May 2017 23:49:29 UTC+2, Ste Wilson wrote: > > There is a fairly comprehensive list on the Reddit group but I'm not sure > if anyone stepped up to moderate it after riz said he w

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

We need aggregation. Nice if Twederation could do it. But its not here. I'm not sure if its anywhere close yet. Lets not put off till tomorrow too much. I am UNCLEAR what could solve this *pressing issue* in the near needed future. Josiah On Saturday, 6 May 2017 01:29:02 UTC+2, Birthe C wro

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

Hi Birthe, How would you use twederation for this? I realise it would be a new version > of twederation. > Actually, not much different from the TWederation you've tried. (Hopefully faster fetching tho ;-) But which aspects are you asking about in particular that are not elaborated on, albeit

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

Hi Mat, I wonder how it will cope with many users. I think it would be best for public topic-specialized wikis to fetch links to plugins, as you suggest. I recall the problems we had with TWclassic. Lots of modified versions of the same plugins around. The good part is that most users will ge

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

Hi again Birthe, > I wonder how it will cope with many users. I think it would be best for > public topic-specialized wikis to fetch links to plugins, as you suggest. > I recall the problems we had with TWclassic. Lots of modified versions of > the same plugins around. The good part is that

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

For twederation the plan moving forward is to make a lightweight distributed server architecture that works like a wiki but has a real database that can act like a wiki. That may be able to help with the scaling problems. The servers would be federated themselves and it shouldn't change the way

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

Ciao Mat, Jed & tutti Basically here we are talking about aggregation of one form or another to aid knowing what is available I very much grasp that Twederation (TWED) may well be RIGHT bees knees longer term to do that. One thing I was thinking about was a universal system of fields or tags

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

I think that the best place that everyone agree is the plugin tab of the control panel. Having some kind of beta tab/channel community driven. However, until mr. Ruston allows us such thing we are alone here. >From my side, I will start including all the plugin libraries that gave me their auth

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

I agree with Danielo Rodríguez and Mark S. that some tab or extra plugin library in the regular plugin modal, is the best way to make a plugin findable (for now). A couple of people have made there own plugin libraries (e.g. Tobias). Could this be a solution: 1. Have a TW on github where peop

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

*We are talking about an aggregated repository for info & links on plugins & stuff, right?* Maybe my brain is too small but isn't the issue, at this level, simply, to *encourage folk to use Erwan's automated mechanism that already exists*! result: http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Latest

[tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

After several years of using TiddlyWiki (without many plugins), I just found Tobias' huge plugin stash on GitHub and cannot help but think there are many other 3rd party plugins that I would love to check out! I think the mos

Re: [tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

Hi Danielo > I think that the best place that everyone agree is the plugin tab of the > control panel. Having some kind of beta tab/channel community driven. > However, until mr. Ruston allows us such thing we are alone here. Really? What is it that I am not allowing? Can you point to a statemen

Re: [tw] Re: This is how you can (and could) find plugins

Hello Jeremy > Really? What is it that I am not allowing? Can you point to a statement > from me that backs up your assertion > Sorry if I looked impolite. I can't find any particular source to make a quote, but I asked a couple of times how to make a plugin fit into the official plugin