[twdev] Re: Updated dependency handling in TiddlyWiki5

2012-02-09 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Feb 9, 5:09 pm, chris.d...@gmail.com wrote: >    https://github.com/cdent/tw5ikifier > > Doesn't currently work as I've not yet updated the code to reflect > the new dependency handling. > > Will report on how they feel once I do. I have it working. Initially it was a bit of a pain as I needed

[twdev] Re: dependencies in tw5/cook.js WikiTextRules.js

2012-02-05 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jan 31, 4:29 pm, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > Aha, that makes sense. I think you're talking about the same > distinction as me with my comment about distinguishing "tiddlers that > are linked to from those that are transcluded. The underlying issue > can indeed be seen as whether one needs the skinny

[twdev] Re: TiddlySpace alpha channel

2011-08-19 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Aug 18, 5:43 pm, chris.d...@gmail.com wrote: > The intention is that the alpha release always be what's at HEAD from > within the last week or so. However tests of HEAD are currently failing in safari webkit Version 5.1 (6534.50, r93220) and Chrome 13.0.782.112 so I'm unable to make an alpha re

[twdev] Re: post-processing tiddlywiki generated html

2011-06-27 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 25, 11:33 am, chris.d...@gmail.com wrote: > So there's no block to handle. So the first part of purpleater is to > create blocks. I've made some adjustments that improve the situation for me. Basically what it does is look inside any current block resulting from the first split to see if th

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWiki core dev migration to github

2011-03-18 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Mar 11, 11:40 am, "cd...@peermore.com" wrote: > Okay, sounds like there's consensus. Unless people raise objections I > will do the migration of the code to github on the 18th of March (1 > week from today). I have started the process. The new site for the

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWiki core dev migration to github

2011-03-11 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Mar 5, 9:32 am, Tobias Beer wrote: > > ditto, in all three cases, > > +1 Okay, sounds like there's consensus. Unless people raise objections I will do the migration of the code to github on the 18th of March (1 week from today). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[twdev] Re: tiddlywiki.com build process

2011-02-21 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Feb 21, 4:10 pm, Paul Downey wrote: > Eventually producing standalone TiddlyWikis without the TiddlySpace > adaptors and plugins should be a generic option for TiddlySpace Did you consider making a recipe in tiddlyspace which is (let's call it twcom for this example): /bags/tiddlywiki-com_pub

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWiki ticket cleanup

2011-02-14 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Feb 8, 12:53 pm, Martin Budden wrote: > Note that this is just a first pass - I intend to move further tickets > into the "won't fix" category as well. I also hope that others will do > likewise, or at least suggest tickets that are candidates for "won't > fix". I went through on Friday evenin

[twdev] Re: Proposal: Migrate TiddlyWiki core dev to GitHub

2011-02-07 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jan 20, 5:34 pm, FND wrote: > Off the top of my head, I can think of these basic/official components: > * TiddlyWiki core (Trunk/core/, along with tests and such) > * Cook (Trunk/tools/cooker/) > * jQuery plugins (Trunk/core/jquery/plugins/) To get things started I went ahead and today created

[twdev] Re: Dealing with non text tiddlers in TiddlyWiki

2010-07-01 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 25, 2:05 pm, FND wrote: > However, the problem I see here is being tied to the TiddlyWiki > universe. Your approach - leveraging sections and slices - requires > parsing of the tiddler body, and thus a certain awareness of its > structure. This is problematic for a generic system like Tiddl

[twdev] attn psd: Slight bug with TiddlySlidly

2010-04-11 Thread cd...@peermore.com
In order for TiddlySlidly to behave well on TiddlyWeb, with new content going into a user defined bag, this small change is required to TiddlySlidlyPlugin. I believe this is against the latest version (which I got from http://tiddlyslidly.com): --- pla.txt 2010-04-11 13:36:38.0 +

[twdev] Re: New plugin to help with server-side multi-user collaboration

2010-04-08 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Apr 8, 8:12 am, gkdev wrote: > I will take a closer look at TiddlyWeb as soon as I have the chance. > Does it support multi-user online collaboration? If so, how does it do > it? FND's response basically covers it, but if your interested in the general principles that lead to the solution bein

[twdev] Re: latest tiddlyweb news

2009-12-21 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Dec 20, 11:59 pm, chris.d...@gmail.com wrote: > *http://tiddlyweb.appsport.com/ is TiddlyWeb on Google App Engine. This should be http://tiddlyweb.appspot.com/ not sport. Thanks to josep for pointing it out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Tidd

[twdev] Format of "binary" tiddlers

2009-09-13 Thread cd...@peermore.com
One of the features of TiddlyWeb is that you can easily store binary content (such as image data) in the Tiddler store and use it either directly (via the url of the tiddler) or within a TiddlyWiki. If the binary content is sufficiently short to be represented in a data uri it is included within

[twdev] New Google Group For TiddlyWeb

2009-06-28 Thread cd...@peermore.com
The time has come where TiddlyWeb discussion has grown up enough that it is time to leave the pleasant confines of TiddlyWebDev and move on to a Google Group of its own. Sometimes a teenager needs a bit of privacy to explore his or her own ideas, have a little freedom, be more diverse, talk in wa

[twdev] Re: Prototype for tiddler input validation/sanitation in TiddlyWeb

2009-06-23 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 23, 8:16 am, Oveek wrote: > Minor hiccup with the addition of the validation code. After its > introduction, the policies table (assuming sqlstore) is expected to > have the new 'accept' column. But when using an older sqlstore > instance without an 'accept' column, the latest tiddlyweb ma

[twdev] Recipes in Recipes in TiddlyWeb

2009-06-22 Thread cd...@peermore.com
Track ticket http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/ticket/1015 requests a feature for TiddlyWeb wherein it would be possible to list a recipe in a recipe. At the moment only bags are allowed in recipes. This message is basically to get a sense of whether people would like to see recipes as okay syntax in re

[twdev] Re: S5 for TiddlyWeb

2009-06-18 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 18, 12:01 pm, rlau...@gmail.com wrote: > Do I have to host a separate server for each presentation? Or can I host a   > presentation on an existing instance just with a different URL? Because the s5 handling is a serializer, any TiddlyWeb URL which presents a list of tiddlers can be delive

[twdev] Re: S5 for TiddlyWeb

2009-06-17 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 17, 2:25 am, Anthony Muscio wrote: > From a user perspective nice and fast, > Could it use a tiddler field to set order and include only tiddlers tagged > tagname ? > > Nice work. Thanks. Today I added support for using a tiddler named S5Sort to contain an ordered list of the tiddlers i

[twdev] S5 for TiddlyWeb

2009-06-16 Thread cd...@peermore.com
This evening FND encouraged me to make an S5 serializer for TiddlyWeb. This makes it possible to use a set of tiddlers hosted by TiddlyWeb as the source for a slideshow presentation in your browser, using the S5 format/system. I wrote a blog posting about it: http://cdent.tumblr.com/post/124826

[twdev] Re: Prototype for tiddler input validation/sanitation in TiddlyWeb

2009-06-16 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 16, 2:48 pm, Martin Budden wrote: > a (perhaps) stupid question I thought we all agreed a long time ago that there are no stupid questions? > Why do you call the policy constraint "accept"? You call the > constraint "accept", and validate if it is not set. > > Why not call the policy con

[twdev] Re: Prototype for tiddler input validation/sanitation in TiddlyWeb

2009-06-16 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 16, 12:16 am, mahemoff wrote: > Thanks for the update Chris. The flexible validation model makes sense > - in the medium-to-long term I would also like to see TiddlyWeb ship > with a default validator that allows for general HTML content, that > does the usual Javascript stripping, matchin

[twdev] Re: Opera Unite

2009-06-16 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 16, 9:49 am, Paul Downey wrote: > well, ignoring the hype, it seems like Opera Unite might have some   > interesting possibilities for TiddlyWiki, especially the embedded HTTPd: > > http://unite.opera.com/ Oh my. This looks very interesting. I hope this encourages the other browser dist

[twdev] Re: Request: Modified QuickEdit_image for weird situation

2009-06-15 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 15, 9:51 pm, Eric Shulman wrote: > ... and, to make it easy to enter a relative reference, I've updated > QuickEdit_image so that if the local file you select is in a sub- > directory relative to the current document, the leading "file:///Z:/" > will be *automatically* removed, producing t

[twdev] Prototype for tiddler input validation/sanitation in TiddlyWeb

2009-06-15 Thread cd...@peermore.com
trac ticket 866 discusses the need for server-side sanitation and validation of tiddler content. My latest tiddlyweb commit to github starts work on a prototype for such things. I'd appreciate some comments from interested parties. The commit can be viewed

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb sqlstore (testers required)

2009-06-15 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 15, 9:34 am, Oveek wrote: > I may have to toss sqlite into my mix of databases to play with...I've > gotten curious about the performance of various combinations of > software "stacks". I've thought about creating a virtual machine that > mimics the specs of the test server at work, and ex

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb sqlstore (testers required)

2009-06-14 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 13, 9:23 pm, Oveek wrote: > Disregard what I said about the strange behavior. This commit looks to > be working perfectly, and in only 4 lines! I was originally confused > because I was still seeing multiple instances of the StoreSet being > initialized, but I was overlooking that one will

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb sqlstore (testers required)

2009-06-14 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 13, 8:38 pm, Oveek wrote: > Okay I've been doing some testing. I think your latest commit in the > StoreSet has hit the problem at its source, but I'm seeing some things > that still aren't making sense. Unfortunately my change screws things up for sqlite, while working for other DBs. So

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb no tiddlywebconfig

2009-06-13 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 13, 12:35 pm, rakugo wrote: > OK so the problem was I had the wrong path to the egg file (for some > reason it wasn't recognising the tilda ~ but when I defined /home/ > jonrobson it worked fine. > Job done. Cool. ~ is a shell thing, it's usually not going to "expand" in a python file.

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb sqlstore (testers required)

2009-06-13 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 12, 5:18 pm, "cd...@peermore.com" wrote: > On Jun 11, 1:56 pm, "cd...@peermore.com" wrote: > Oveek, have a look at this commit: > > http://github.com/tiddlyweb/tiddlyweb/commit/8c3c8371718df8275350b3c3... > > and install Tiddlyweb 0.9.39 (just r

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb no tiddlywebconfig

2009-06-13 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 13, 11:45 am, rakugo wrote: > I am trying to install TiddlyWeb on my server in a similar way to Ben > Gillies (http://bengillies.net/.a/recipes/blog/tiddlers/Runningon > TiddlyWeb, Part One) > > I am however getting an exception thrown on the line    from > tiddlyweb.web import serve in in

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb sqlstore (testers required)

2009-06-12 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 11, 1:56 pm, "cd...@peermore.com" wrote: > On Jun 11, 5:17 am, Oveek wrote: > > > The upshot is that on either mysql or postgre with default setings, > > you are going to hit your max connection limit in under 200 requests. > > If the max_connection

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb sqlstore (testers required)

2009-06-11 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 11, 5:17 am, Oveek wrote: > The upshot is that on either mysql or postgre with default setings, > you are going to hit your max connection limit in under 200 requests. > If the max_connections setting was sky high, eventually memory would > be the limiting factor. On my test system it take

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb sqlstore (testers required)

2009-06-11 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 10, 5:41 pm, Oveek wrote: > So my rocky trip through database land continues. Ah. Yes. I'll do some responding here before moving on into your newer message. > Every single request to TiddlyWeb is creating a new connection to > postgre and the connections are rapidly eating up available

[twdev] Re: The first jQuery plugin

2009-06-11 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 10, 12:55 am, Morris Gray wrote: > Whether there is a divide between developers and users is a moot > point.  It is a fact that there are decisions made that are not known > by users until it is offered to them as a fait accompli.  The > reasonably firm enforcement of sending anything that

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb sqlstore (testers required)

2009-06-11 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 10, 2:58 pm, alex wrote: > I'm still planning my learning curve. > Jeremy mentioned CoucheDB. I've checked it out, i almost understand > it! It makes sense in the overall discussions of databases. > > Will it be possible that TiddlyWeb will work with CoucheDB in the > future? If so, i'll s

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb sqlstore (testers required)

2009-06-09 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 9, 10:20 am, Oveek wrote: > I hit another Postgre foreign key related store problem. Good thing you exist. Thanks. It's fixed and the new code is on github. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "

[twdev] Re: The first jQuery plugin

2009-06-09 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 9, 9:30 am, Morris Gray wrote: > I'm wondering if the first jQuery plugin since jQuery was implemented > into the TiddlyWiki core isn't worth someone acknowledging? [snip] > What happened to the comradery and generosity? > > Why not give credit where credit is due? The silence is cruel.

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb managing users

2009-06-08 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 8, 5:16 pm, Oveek wrote: > That's really due to one of my assumptions about performance. If the > text store gets very large with many tiddlers and revisions, I guess > its performance becomes tied to how well the file system handles large > numbers of small files. I think a database mit

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb sqlstore (testers required)

2009-06-08 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 8, 7:00 am, tony wrote: > User tip: before importing a tiddlywiki into the store, remember you > have to make a bag for it! > > $twanager imwiki ~/ will work and > raise no exception from bag absence, but create odd saving behavior > later. When I try to imwiki without the bag existing I

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb managing users

2009-06-08 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 8, 9:40 am, Oveek wrote: > Something to note in the docs when adding roles to an existing user: > "When you update an existing user from the command line it is just > like creating the user anew. There is (as yet) no true update > functionality. Because of this, when you add a role to an e

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb managing users

2009-06-08 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 8, 7:24 am, tony wrote: > I was wondering about these policy and role settings too as the only > stage I'm at is making recipes: > > $twanager recipe user1 > /bags/system/tiddlers > /bags/user1/tiddlers > ^d > ... > repeat for usersN It's not well documented but you can construct a recip

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb managing users

2009-06-08 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 8, 5:22 am, Oveek wrote: > Knocking things down one by one. With the sqlstore available I feel > like I can create a test instance of TiddlyWeb at work. I think it's > going to be pretty awesome once all the pieces come together. Just out of curiosity, why does the sqlstore change the wor

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb sqlstore (testers required)

2009-06-04 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 3, 10:05 am, "cd...@peermore.com" wrote: > I meant to update http://tiddlyweb.peermore.com/ to use the sql store > last night, but got distracted writing a thing called multistore which > lets you write to or read from multiple stores. This has

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb sqlstore (testers required)

2009-06-04 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 4, 8:06 am, Alex Hough wrote: > before i start climbing a potentially steep learning curve; > > Is this flavour of TiddlyWeb going to be the standard one? I don't intend for any particular store to be a standard. The core distribution of TiddlyWeb will always include the text store, and

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb sqlstore (testers required)

2009-06-04 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 4, 1:55 am, tony wrote: > Step 3. move the sql plugin into your store instance > > mywikistuff is my store instance > > ~/mywikistuff As you noticed, getting sql plugin in there is not enough for your exiting content to show up in the database using, you have to use the migrate plugin.

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb sqlstore (testers required)

2009-06-03 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 3, 2:52 am, Oveek wrote: > I'm glad you started working on this when you did, because I was > thinking about it as well. To use TiddlyWeb seriously--my intended use > case is as a collaboration tool in a corporate environment--I think a > database backend becomes necessary. This seems to

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb: Lazy loading and load-on-demand

2009-06-01 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jun 1, 7:07 am, Oveek wrote: > On May 23, 10:52 pm, "cd...@peermore.com" > wrote: > >By the way, if you haven't already done it, it's probably best to make > >your fork for tiddlyweb-plugins have tiddlyweb/tiddlyweb-plugins as > >its upstream, n

[twdev] TiddlyWeb sqlstore (testers required)

2009-05-23 Thread cd...@peermore.com
Over the past couple of days I got inspired to write a storage system for TiddlyWeb that uses Python's SQLAlchemy[1] library to interact with an RDBMS of your choice[2]. I've run the tiddlyweb test suite against both sqlite3 and mysql by simply changing a line in the tiddlywebconfig.py file. Thi

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb: Lazy loading and load-on-demand

2009-05-23 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On May 22, 8:31 pm, Oveek wrote: > I've taken a stab at creating a basic load on demand setup and just > pushed two plugins to my fork of tiddlyweb-plugins: > > * > loadinitial:http://github.com/moveek/tiddlyweb-plugins/tree/8e7421acb8dc6a242dfec... > * > tiddlylinkfilter:http://github.com/move

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb: Lazy loading and load-on-demand

2009-05-17 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On May 15, 8:37 pm, Oveek wrote: > > What, in your estimation, are things that are gained by sending the > > list of tiddlers at load time? > > As you noted, the tags and timeline are big ones. Both could be > especially important for newcomers unfamiliar with what content is > available on the s

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb: Lazy loading and load-on-demand

2009-05-13 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On May 12, 5:34 pm, Oveek wrote: > I'm following up a quick chat with Chris, and FND, on #tiddlyweb, > about delayed loading of tiddlers. The aim is to discuss possible > implementations in TiddlyWeb and get started working on one or more of > them. Glad you started this thread. I think you're

[twdev] Re: deprecated setStylesheet and removeStyleSheet in favor of jquery.stylesheet

2009-05-11 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On May 11, 4:29 pm, s...@tiddlywiki.org wrote: > +// Add or replace a style sheet > +// css argument is a string of CSS rule sets > +// options.id is an optional name identifying the style sheet > +// options.doc is an optional document reference > +// N.B.: Uses DOM methods instead of jQuery to

[twdev] TiddlyWeb HTTP API docs

2009-05-11 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On http://tiddlyweb.peermore.com/ I've started filling in the documentation blanks for the HTTP API that is presented by TiddlyWeb. This information seems worth completing before a 1.0 release. I'm sure that I'm leaving things out, and would like to get it right, so I need help. If you have time

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb: new filters docs

2009-05-11 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On May 11, 3:48 am, Oveek wrote: > I started playing with filters a bit, testing on URLs. > > Does searching the entire datastore with /search work using the new > filter syntax? Yes, it would look something like this: http://tiddlyweb.peermore.com/wiki/search?q=filter;sort=-modified;limit=10

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb on Apache: problem with slashes (%2F decoded in PATH_INFO)

2009-05-10 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On May 10, 8:24 am, Oveek wrote: > Okay, committed the plugin. It's in there: http://github.com/tiddlyweb/tiddlyweb-plugins/tree/master/pathinfohack --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWikiDev"

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb: new filters docs

2009-05-09 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On May 8, 10:40 pm, "cd...@peermore.com" wrote: > Sometime over the weekend I will push out the new code as version > 0.9.31. This has been done, and immediately following that I released 0.9.32, because I had a packaging problem with 31. The new version is running on tiddly

[twdev] TiddlyWeb: new filters docs

2009-05-08 Thread cd...@peermore.com
At http://tiddlyweb.peermore.com/wiki/#filter I have started documenting the new style filters discussed in a recent thread[1]. I've chosen to create the documentation in advance of releasing the code so that: * people who have existing filters will have a reference when updating * to give p

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb on Apache: problem with slashes (%2F decoded in PATH_INFO)

2009-05-08 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On May 8, 5:20 pm, Oveek wrote: > Nice timing. I copied the methodhack plugin, renamed it to > pathinfohack, and substituted in a method that copies the path portion > of REQUEST_URI into PATH_INFO. > > Appears to do the trick; can now create, save, and delete tiddlers > with slashes in the ti

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb Issues: filters

2009-05-08 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On May 8, 2:54 pm, "cd...@peermore.com" wrote: > After lots of productive conversation with FND, I've just checked in > what might be a workable solution, the addition of an mselect > "command" where 'm' means 'multi'. We consider '

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb Issues: filters

2009-05-08 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On May 8, 11:15 am, "cd...@peermore.com" wrote: > * Dealing with the presumably common case of selecting multiple > tiddlers by title from the same bag. See a commit message about that > which suggests some alternatives. After lots of productive conversation with FND, I

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb Issues: filters

2009-05-08 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On May 5, 12:34 pm, "cd...@peermore.com" wrote: > I've started a 'filter2' branch on github to start implementing > something along these lines. To get started I've written a short > spec:http://github.com/tiddlyweb/tiddlyweb/blob/filters2/FILTERS2 >

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb on Apache: problem with slashes (%2F decoded in PATH_INFO)

2009-05-07 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On May 7, 4:54 pm, Oveek wrote: > Oops that should be: > > PATH_INFO = REQUEST_URI.replace(SCRIPT_NAME, "", 1) Yes, I considered something like this, but REQUEST_URI is not required by the WSGI spec so is not always present from all servers, so I could not figure out a solution that would work

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb Issues: filters

2009-05-05 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Apr 29, 1:29 pm, "cd...@peermore.com" wrote: > * select or filter for things like : simple regular expressions)> > * sort > * limit or count (can't decide if this would be just a number of would > have some kind of spec to) I've started a 'filter2

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb Issues: filters

2009-04-29 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Apr 29, 4:33 pm, Martin Budden wrote: > There's a slight problem with the syntax, namely if you read > > select=tag:blog&select=tag:coment > > quickly. the "&" sticks in the mind and it gets parsed as > > select=tag:blog&tag:coment Then use ';'. It is a better cgi parameter separator anyway

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb Issues: filters

2009-04-29 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Apr 29, 12:46 pm, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > I'd also given thought to the difference between selection and > filtering. My simplistic way of fitting them together was to invent > the idea of a implicit selector at the start of a filter list. Thus, a > construction like "[tag[blog]sort[modified]li

[twdev] Re: Core testing and decision making

2009-04-29 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Apr 29, 12:11 pm, Martin Budden wrote: > OK, I understand this. What's your view when 2.5.1 becomes available - > this does have added value (bug fixes etc). Should 2.5.1 then become > the default upgrade? If not, what would be the criteria for changing > the default upgrade from 2.4.3 to 2.5.

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb Issues: filters

2009-04-29 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Apr 29, 11:31 am, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > Returning to Chris' original question, being an eternal optimist, I > still believe that (3) is feasible, but if we can't manage that in > time for 1.0, I'd have thought that (2) would be the sensible option. As Martin so aptly put it, it really boils

[twdev] TiddlyWeb Issues: filters

2009-04-26 Thread cd...@peermore.com
I've been wanting to release a 1.0 version of TiddlyWeb for some time now, but there continue to be a few issues which may or may not need to be addressed before such a thing can happen: * filters * server side validation * something I can't remember now (feel free to point things out) In this m

[twdev] Re: Core testing and decision making

2009-04-23 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Apr 23, 5:24 pm, Eric Shulman wrote: > I think that we are really dancing around some practical, as well as > philosophical, differences of opinion related to the overarching > question: > >    "Why, when, and how should a given core change be made?" I agree and I'll take it a step further:

[twdev] track records and other streaks (was Re: jQuery alias (ticket #1032))

2009-04-23 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Apr 23, 4:06 pm, Eric Shulman wrote: > Paul wrote: > > I do feel we may be being overly cautious, and if there is scope > > leakage then it will help refactoring and plugin authors if we > > understand the problem better and have regression tests to follow. > > Unfortunately, BT/Osmosoft's tra

[twdev] Re: jQuery alias (ticket #1032)

2009-04-23 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Apr 23, 11:44 am, Paul Downey wrote: > I suggest we continue to use the jquery alias, build more tests for   > "$" and consider flipping to "$" once we understand the problem   > better. I think at this point adding TiddlyWiki special "jq" alias   > will make matters worse, and only add yet

[twdev] TiddlyWeb development and github

2009-04-21 Thread cd...@peermore.com
(Note that none of the below has any impact, at the moment, on TiddlyWiki itself. If you think TiddlyWiki would benefit from using git, please talk about that in a different thread.) Because it more efficiently supports the kind of open and diverse development that I hope to see with TiddlyWeb a

[twdev] TiddlyWeb on Google App Engine

2009-04-07 Thread cd...@peermore.com
Last Autumn I announced that I had this thing called twoter running on google app engine: http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWikiDev/browse_frm/thread/5352f22cefb805a1 http://tiddlyweb.appspot.com/ It was made up of TiddlyWeb, some TiddlyWeb plugins, and a little bookmarklet. As Tiddly

[twdev] Commit messages to this list?

2009-04-06 Thread cd...@peermore.com
I hear tell this has been discussed in the past, but I thought I would bring it up again as it's something I rather miss. I am a _huge_ fan of verbose commit messages. I think they provide all kinds of functionality for both the author and audience of the changeset. For both they help to explain

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb serverside sanitation

2009-04-06 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Apr 3, 2:20 pm, mahemoff wrote: > This is along the lines of what I'd like to see, but as with FND, I'd > much rather avoid the negative term "santize_unless" if possible, and > have it as "sanitize" instead. I have a hard time getting my head > around "sanitize_unless: NONE". See my response

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb serverside sanitation

2009-04-06 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Apr 3, 11:19 am, FND wrote: > > Corrupting the data is pretty much exactly what we want here. > > [...] > > If somebody wants text/plain they can PUT text/plain to the server and > > it will be served back that way only. > > That sounds reasonable then. > (Are text/plain PUTs stored differentl

[twdev] Re: Input Request: TiddlyWeb plugin distribution

2009-04-06 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Apr 4, 3:26 pm, Saq Imtiaz wrote: > Of course the average "user" in that > situation is a developer, which leads to the question, what/who would > the average user be who would install a TiddlyWeb plugin? This is a good question, which doesn't yet have a good answer. The average of anything i

[twdev] Re: code documentation

2009-04-06 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Apr 6, 10:21 am, Paul Downey wrote: > On 6 Apr 2009, at 10:14, Martin Budden wrote: > > > I favour forsaking the template altogether and writing a brief > > description of the function, with a note describing anything unusual. > > +1 I think the params stuff is unnecessary duplication - It's

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb serverside sanitation

2009-04-02 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Apr 1, 6:46 pm, FND wrote: > > It is far more stable, predictable and performant to sanitize input > > we get it and store the sanitized data in the datastore. > > While I generally agree, there's one point to consider here: > One might argue that this sort of interference is corrupting the

[twdev] TiddlyWeb serverside sanitation

2009-03-31 Thread cd...@peermore.com
This message is in response to the thread at: http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWikiDev/browse_frm/thread/54e526cf8b0f0cc3/4988e4438e7c3a74 but apparently it is too old for me to reply to directly. I've been considering the issue some more lately, including information in the thread and rece

[twdev] Re: Input Request: TiddlyWeb plugin distribution

2009-03-31 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Mar 24, 3:03 pm, FND wrote: > > 1. get a copy of the plugin module file [...] > > 2. put it in the instance directory > > 3. edit tiddlywebconfig.py > > I think a significant bottleneck here is #3 - at least with regards to > the initial setup. It's also problematic because it means the respec

[twdev] Input Request: TiddlyWeb plugin distribution

2009-03-23 Thread cd...@peermore.com
At the moment the usual way to use a TiddlyWeb plugin with your instance is to: 1. get a copy of the plugin module file (e.g. static.py) somehow (usually out of http://svn.tiddlywiki.org/) 2. put it in the instance directory 3. edit tiddlywebconfig.py to change system_plugins or twanager_plugins

[twdev] TiddlyWeb Status Update

2009-03-16 Thread cd...@peermore.com
In which a general update on the status of all things TiddlyWeb is made: * A few days ago on Twitter, @tiddlyweb[1] announced that TiddlyWeb was already in beta. This is because for all intents and purposes it is: there's no reason to be calling it alpha any longer. TiddlyWeb is stable and has a

[twdev] Re: Revision system ?

2009-03-12 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Mar 12, 3:18 pm, "yba...@ideia.fr" wrote: > Onhttp://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Server-Side_SolutionsI have seen that > some server solutions have revision system. For now, I have tried > TiddlyHome, but no revision system seem's to be present, beside > regular backup files. As FND pointed out, yo

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb login using AJAX returning 401 Unauthorized

2009-03-10 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Mar 10, 6:10 pm, "cd...@peermore.com" wrote: > On Mar 10, 9:39 am, jnthnlstr wrote: > > > In the xhr request, "Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded; > > charset=UTF-8" > > In the form submit, "Content-Type: application/x-www-form

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb login using AJAX returning 401 Unauthorized

2009-03-10 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Mar 10, 9:39 am, jnthnlstr wrote: > In the xhr request, "Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded; > charset=UTF-8" > In the form submit, "Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded" This is probably the crux of the biscuit. I'll write some test code that should tickle the bug

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb content types and online editing

2009-03-06 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Mar 6, 9:46 am, jnthnlstr wrote: > Fred - looking at the serializer code, I don't see how I link the > running of that code to a request for "blah.css". Could you point me > in the right direction? See http://svn.tiddlywiki.org/Trunk/contributors/ChrisDent/experimental/tiddlyweb-plugins/

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb login using AJAX returning 401 Unauthorized

2009-03-06 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Mar 6, 9:34 am, jnthnlstr wrote: > You can validate this: > > 1) go tohttp://burningchrome.com:8090/bags/IMP/tiddlers.wiki > 2) open up backstage > 3) select login > 4) login with user=jonl password=jonl > 5) see the response in Firebug console as 401 Unauthorized When I watch the tiddlyweb

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb content types and online editing

2009-03-05 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Mar 5, 5:40 pm, jnthnlstr wrote: > 1) I want to request this to get the text of the StyleSheet (and not > have it put the metadata at the > top):http://ilga.peermore.com/wiki/bags/ILGA/tiddlers/StyleSheet.css If you PUT it as text/css, when attempt to get it, the default type will be css,

[twdev] Re: The Road to Jake Weary: Announcing jQuery in TiddlyWiki 2.5 Beta 2

2009-03-04 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Mar 4, 11:54 pm, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > I've been thinking about translations a bit too, and am wondering > particularly about the way that we require our translators to write > and maintain syntactically correct javascript, with all the knobbly > bits about quote escaping. The obvious alter

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb content types and online editing

2009-03-04 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Mar 4, 7:34 pm, jnthnlstr wrote: > An idea - I'd like to be able to have a CSS file at a URL > like:http://mytiddlyweb.com/styles.css > > and have people be able to edit it when they go > to:http://mytiddlyweb.com/styles.wiki > > Thoughts? Based on the subject of your message, it sounds lik

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb cookie error..

2009-03-04 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Mar 4, 9:14 am, rakugo wrote: > The problem has resurfaced > chkBackstage false > tiddler: > txtMoreTab: Shadowed > ToolbarCommands: > txtMainTab: timeline > > Deleting the tiddler: cookie and nothing else seems to fix it. Do you happen to know what plugin or tool is setting that cookie

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb cookie error..

2009-03-02 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Mar 2, 3:48 pm, rakugo wrote: > Very weird, after much pain I resolved this problem by clearing my > cookies from my cache. Not sure how that fixed things but it works > now. Slightly worrying though that it brought down my whole site with > just one bad cookie! Presumably it didn't bring dow

[twdev] TiddlyWeb docs and irc

2009-02-23 Thread cd...@peermore.com
There are two new places for TiddlyWeb information: * irc://irc.freenode.net/tiddlyweb is an IRC channel where folk who are doing some TiddlyWeb stuff hang out.[1] * http://tiddlyweb.peermore.com/ is a TiddlyWeb generated TiddlyWiki containing a growing collection of TiddlyWeb documentation.[

[twdev] the Recent Changes link in TiddlyWeb

2009-02-20 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Feb 19, 9:32 pm, ccahua wrote: > There seems to be something amiss on the equal sign uri encoding to > hex 3D when I go here:http://peermore.com:8999/then navigate to a > tiddler and hit a 'Recent Changes in Recipe test' link to get: This is a bug in the TiddlyWeb code. The = should not be

[twdev] Implementing Recent Changes in TiddlyWeb

2009-02-19 Thread cd...@peermore.com
FND and I have been having an ongoing debate about why and how best to do a recent changes system for a wiki that is hosted by TiddlyWeb. This is something FND wants more than I do, and he has specific requirements for how it should work. We started having the email not in public and then realize

[twdev] Re: StorageInterface entry points

2009-02-17 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Feb 17, 2:02 pm, FND wrote: > > See StorageInterface definition [1], that is the canonical definition > > of the interface, including only those methods which matter to the > > interface. That should be your _formal_ starting point for > > understanding the interface. > > Oh right - I have a

[twdev] Re: StorageInterface entry points

2009-02-17 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Feb 17, 11:51 am, FND wrote: > Martin and I are working on a TiddlyWeb store to simplify TiddlyWiki > plugin development in conjunction with TiddlyWeb.[1] > > While we're making good progress, it might be useful to have a generic > overview of the StorageInterface's various entry points. Se

[twdev] Re: TiddlyWeb 0.9.13 released with significant change

2009-02-17 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Feb 17, 11:03 am, FND wrote: > > That is: in order to safely get a populated object from a store you > > must use the return value from the get call and not rely on the > > (possible) side effect of the bag object being passed to get. > > I think that's a good thing, as it's more explicit -

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