Re: [time-nuts] Maser manual

2010-09-02 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 22:37:36 -0700 jimlux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: J. Forster wrote: If you decide to go the zinc/acid route (a very bad idea, IMO) you will need a compressor. I'd not want anything to do with that! I like living. A Lecture Bottle is the way to go. Why would you

Re: [time-nuts] Maser manual

2010-09-02 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 20:08:13 + Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote: Yes, but what is the issues relating to sapphire loading? What's the cost of the sapphire block and having it machined? It is a saphire tube, a readily available, if not exactly cheap, commodity. Why saphir?

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 12:36:22 -0400 Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: I had an interesting conversation with an advanced tech support supervisor at Century Link / Embarq. According to this gentleman, their lines are only guaranteed to pass port 80 traffic (HTTP). Anything other than that is not

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 13:25:55 -0400 Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: I suspect that it's not an unusual stance. If it is common, it would be something to think long and hard about in a mission critical timing setup. I don't know about the US, but in Europe such a stance would cost an ISP most of

Re: [time-nuts] Maser manual

2010-09-02 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 20100902082809.fff6c994.att...@kinali.ch, Attila Kinali writes: On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 22:37:36 -0700 In one of the papers i've read (which i'm currently unable to find), they used a electrolysis of KOH with a purifier. I don't know about KOH but NaOH is quite easy to get in large

Re: [time-nuts] Maser manual

2010-09-02 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 20100902083014.d223768b.att...@kinali.ch, Attila Kinali writes: On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 20:08:13 + Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote: Why saphir? Aluminia (AlO2) seems to be used as well to load H maser cavities. Or is saphir in some way better? No idea, that's the paper I

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread d . seiter
I used to have a huge problem with my Comcast link going down (in Silicon Valley!), but they seem to be MUCH more reliable than a few years ago. The problem now appears to be very short outages, which seem to be caused by local cell interference with my wifi network. Still trying to figure it

[time-nuts] Maser info

2010-09-02 Thread Corby Dawson
John F., The Palladium valve is also known as a palladium leak or a palladium purifier. In the Maser the use is as the leak. It would also serve to purify the H2 BUT any other impurities lodge in the Palladium plug and can eventually cause it to fail. Early symptoms manifest as having to heat

Re: [time-nuts] Maser manual

2010-09-02 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Attila Kinali wrote: On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 20:08:13 + Poul-Henning Kampp...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote: Yes, but what is the issues relating to sapphire loading? What's the cost of the sapphire block and having it machined? It is a saphire tube, a readily available, if not exactly

Re: [time-nuts] homebrew H maser

2010-09-02 Thread Bruce Griffiths
jimlux wrote: Hal Murray wrote: jim...@earthlink.net said: The gas diffusing out through the drilled bolt.. sure it's drilled, but the conductance is so patheticaly low, you're literally waiting until the gas molecules happen to randomly bounce their wey up the hole. I've never worked

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info

2010-09-02 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Higher operating temperatures force the use of nickel alloy to replace the silver palladium alloy traditionally used. At higher operating temperatures (40c and above) its not possible to turn off (without cooling it) the palladium leak. The Russian masers use nickel or nickel alloy instead of

Re: [time-nuts] homebrew H maser

2010-09-02 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 4c7f5918.7030...@xtra.co.nz, Bruce Griffiths writes: Indicates that the operating pressure at the hydrogen dissociator is likely to be a few Torr or so. The pressure is basically: As low as possible in order to minimize hydrogen collisions (other hydrogen, walls) as much as possible.

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info

2010-09-02 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Reference for palladium-silver leak difficulty at high temperature. http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/1988/Vol%2020_10.pdf Bruce Bruce Griffiths wrote: Higher operating temperatures force the use of nickel alloy to replace the silver palladium alloy traditionally used. At higher operating

Re: [time-nuts] homebrew H maser

2010-09-02 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message4c7f5918.7030...@xtra.co.nz, Bruce Griffiths writes: Indicates that the operating pressure at the hydrogen dissociator is likely to be a few Torr or so. The pressure is basically: As low as possible in order to minimize hydrogen collisions (other

Re: [time-nuts] homebrew H maser

2010-09-02 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Bruce Griffiths wrote: Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message4c7f5918.7030...@xtra.co.nz, Bruce Griffiths writes: Indicates that the operating pressure at the hydrogen dissociator is likely to be a few Torr or so. The pressure is basically: As low as possible in order to minimize hydrogen

Re: [time-nuts] Maser manual

2010-09-02 Thread K. Szeker
Hi all, The Neuchatel MASER was build by Oscilloquartz in Neuchatel/Switzerland... Maybe somebody has the full coordinates of that :-) Oscilloquartz SA, http://www.oscilloquartz.com/ Brévards 16 2002 Neuchâtel Switzerland phone : +4132 722 fax : +4132 722 5556 Regards Karesz 2010/9/1

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Chuck Harris
With Verizon Fios, I have had several instances where a storm has knocked out my internet, yet my phone, which uses the same fiber, still works. (Yes, my router was on an ups, and yes the power was on...) The internet usually comes back in a day, or so. Because they have seriously limited the

Re: [time-nuts] Maser manual

2010-09-02 Thread Chuck Harris
jimlux wrote: paul swed wrote: So by those pictures you actually have it working? Crazy question do you just drive down to your local air gas company and by some hydrogen. How do you fill the red bottle? Just down loaded the tech manual earlier printed out the ops manual. Thanks Basically,

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The troubling part of my situation with Century / Embarq is that a hacked router in their plant, doing port forwarding poorly, would do create the issue I saw. The question now is - did they fix it or did the guy doing the forwarding fix his bug? In my case he's going to be sifting through

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The cable company can play games on their end to significantly impact what you get at the modem. Bob On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:53 AM, Max Robinson m...@maxsmusicplace.com wrote: I noticed that after I hooked up my phone to the cable company my computer connection became a lot more

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi What the guy was telling me was that they don't want customers who care if there's a connection or not. Since I do care, I won't be a Century Tel. customer much longer. I would have switched on the spot, but reprograming the routers takes a bit of time. Cisco IOS isn't my favorite thing to

Re: [time-nuts] homebrew H maser

2010-09-02 Thread jimlux
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message 4c7f5918.7030...@xtra.co.nz, Bruce Griffiths writes: Indicates that the operating pressure at the hydrogen dissociator is likely to be a few Torr or so. The pressure is basically: As low as possible in order to minimize hydrogen collisions (other hydrogen,

[time-nuts] Choice of MASER gas

2010-09-02 Thread Mark Kahrs
John Miles brought up an interesting question that got lost in the discussion of high vacuum systems: what about the choice of gas? Besides H, there is a dual Xe/He system detailed in: http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/Walsworth/pdf/Bear%20thesis.pdf And, as mentioned before, Harvard has built Rb

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi In this case the company is the legacy monopoly wire line carrier for this area. If you want coper wires you go to them. There is no other choice. They do what ever the government regulators make them do. The supervisor referred to those regulations in about every third sentence. Century

Re: [time-nuts] Maser manual (2)

2010-09-02 Thread paul swed
If the thing has a variable cap to tune the osc. My bet is thats the devil. In cheapy telco RBs they have given me lots of trouble. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:40 PM, John Miles jmi...@pop.net wrote: Good point -- I should swap out the feedthrough as well. There is only one in this case, for

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If your WiFi is at 2.4 GHz it could very easily be a microwave oven messing things up. Bob On Sep 2, 2010, at 3:12 AM, d.sei...@comcast.net wrote: I used to have a huge problem with my Comcast link going down (in Silicon Valley!), but they seem to be MUCH more reliable than a few

Re: [time-nuts] Maser manual

2010-09-02 Thread K. Szeker
So, the see of Neuchatel has 429 meter o.NN, the city of Neuchatel/Neuenburg is on so 430-470m. Somebody can calculate yet a correction - if needed/likes... K. 2010/9/2 K. Szeker szeke...@gmail.com: I have the coodinates yet too(but not the hight over see): 46.991347,6.913806 regards

Re: [time-nuts] homebrew H maser

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Also to pump the beast clean after you have opened it up Bob On Sep 2, 2010, at 4:04 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote: In message 4c7f5918.7030...@xtra.co.nz, Bruce Griffiths writes: Indicates that the operating pressure at the hydrogen dissociator is likely to be

Re: [time-nuts] homebrew H maser

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi That pressure level pretty much rules out mechanical pumps for the operating mode. A roughing pump would still be needed to get things going. It also takes the level of machining on the fittings well beyond the reach of most machine shops. Some of the stuff has to be exact, close to a

Re: [time-nuts] homebrew H maser

2010-09-02 Thread Richard W. Solomon
This discussion reminds me of a time long ago when I worked at a University. We had one rather obnoxious Grad Student, who, although brilliant, was a Royal PITA. So, while constructing his vacuum system, and getting hassled by him, I located one of the Universities residents, a large water

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info

2010-09-02 Thread Had
If your serious, the disassociator splits the hydrogen molecules H2 into atoms H to allow maser operation. I do have an old Interocitor screen I could mount on top of the Maser. It would look kinda neat! Oh Corby, you are a man of true wit. I love it Hadley A fine is a tax for doing

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme - microwave oven and WiFi

2010-09-02 Thread Didier Juges
My uW oven does that very well, but not consistently. It occasionally kicks my laptop off line, but not every time. The oven frequency is not very stable and it needs the right combination of temperature and phase of the moon to be exactly at the bad spot long enough to disconnect. You also

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Q
I can't resist a chance for a minor rant. Our neighborhood has suffered for years with noisy land line phone service and occasional outages. They are caused by degraded underground cables. Usually worse in the winter when moisture gets into things, but my phone is presently so noisy I can

[time-nuts] WeirdStuff tbolt $75

2010-09-02 Thread Leigh L. Klotz, Jr WA5ZNU
WeirdStuff has tbolts, no case, no info about firmware version, for $75. They were $495 but I sent them a note saying it wasn't a competitive price and they lowered it and they appear to be selling out quickly. http://www.weirdstuff.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=29654 Also on their

Re: [time-nuts] WeirdStuff tbolt $75

2010-09-02 Thread Robert Darlington
They appear to be gone now. -Bob On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Leigh L. Klotz, Jr WA5ZNU le...@wa5znu.org wrote: WeirdStuff has tbolts, no case, no info about firmware version, for $75. They were $495 but I sent them a note saying it wasn't a competitive price and they lowered it and

Re: [time-nuts] WeirdStuff tbolt $75

2010-09-02 Thread Robert Darlington
Sorry, the link showed nothing. They are still on the eBay store. more than 10 available at the time of this writing. -Bob On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Robert Darlington rdarling...@gmail.comwrote: They appear to be gone now. -Bob On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Leigh L. Klotz, Jr

Re: [time-nuts] WeirdStuff tbolt $75

2010-09-02 Thread K. Szeker
And we should not forget the extra expensive Shipping: $105.35 UPS Worldwide Express too... K. 2010/9/2 Leigh L. Klotz, Jr WA5ZNU le...@wa5znu.org:  WeirdStuff has tbolts, no case, no info about firmware version, for $75. They were $495 but I sent them a note saying it wasn't a competitive

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: Re: homebrew H maser

2010-09-02 Thread J. Forster
Metal diaphragm rough, sorbtion, then Ion is the way to go, IMO. You only need LN2 to run the sorbtion until you get into the Ion range, then you valve the sorbtion off. Cryopumps are a PITA, IMO. FWIW, -John == Bob Camp wrote: Hi My guess is that you either need a cryo pump

Re: [time-nuts] homebrew H maser

2010-09-02 Thread J. Forster
jim...@earthlink.net said: The gas diffusing out through the drilled bolt.. sure it's drilled, but the conductance is so patheticaly low, you're literally waiting until the gas molecules happen to randomly bounce their wey up the hole. I've never worked with vacuum gear. I assume

Re: [time-nuts] WeirdStuff tbolt $75

2010-09-02 Thread Peter Loron
Umm, their eBay listing shows like $11 for US domestic shipping and $30 to Turkmenistan...seems pretty in line with reality... -Pete On 09/02/2010 09:49 AM, K. Szeker wrote: And we should not forget the extra expensive Shipping:$105.35 UPS Worldwide Express too... K. 2010/9/2 Leigh L.

Re: [time-nuts] WeirdStuff tbolt $75 [eBay Link]

2010-09-02 Thread Oz-in-DFW
Just to remove a variable seemingly causing confusion; The ebay link is http://cgi.ebay.com/300457580821 And still more than 10 available. On 9/2/2010 12:02 PM, Peter Loron wrote: Umm, their eBay listing shows like $11 for US domestic shipping and $30 to Turkmenistan...seems pretty in line

Re: [time-nuts] WeirdStuff tbolt $75

2010-09-02 Thread K. Szeker
Hi Peter, You are right, in the text/details are, for same destination, more moderate prices too Under the cover shipments costs was the expensivste to see... US $105,35 Deutschland UPS Worldwide ExpressSM US $96,97 Deutschland UPS Worldwide ExpeditedSM US $31,05 Deutschland USPS Priority Mail

Re: [time-nuts] Maser manual

2010-09-02 Thread J. Forster
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 22:37:36 -0700 jimlux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: J. Forster wrote: If you decide to go the zinc/acid route (a very bad idea, IMO) you will need a compressor. I'd not want anything to do with that! I like living. A Lecture Bottle is the way to go. Why would you

Re: [time-nuts] homebrew H maser

2010-09-02 Thread Paramithiotti, Luciano Paolo S
I am rally interested to be part of a team of people with the target to built an active H Maser. If there are in the world persons who are really interested in, it will be a good starting point. To built specific parts there are several way to do it in ham saving mode, for example for the

[time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels)

2010-09-02 Thread Corby Dawson
This EFOS maser typically runs with the two vacuum pressures below 1.5 X 10-6 Torr. (as measured via the ion pump current) Maximum should not exceed about 3.6 X 10-6 Torr for either pump. The internal vacuum will drop to about 1 X10-7 Torr if the Hydrogen to the disassociator is turned off. One

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info

2010-09-02 Thread J. Forster
John F., The Palladium valve is also known as a palladium leak or a palladium purifier. In the Maser the use is as the leak. It would also serve to purify the H2 BUT any other impurities lodge in the Palladium plug and can eventually cause it to fail. Early symptoms manifest as having to

Re: [time-nuts] WeirdStuff tbolt $75

2010-09-02 Thread Peter Loron
Ah, yes. Express courier service is always spendy. -Pete On 09/02/2010 10:09 AM, K. Szeker wrote: Hi Peter, You are right, in the text/details are, for same destination, more moderate prices too Under the cover shipments costs was the expensivste to see... US $105,35 Deutschland UPS

Re: [time-nuts] Choice of MASER gas

2010-09-02 Thread J. Forster
FYI, Ron Walsworth did his PhD in Prof. Ike Silvera's Group at Harvard. Among his advisors were Robert Vesseau of SAO/CFA, the builder of a number of very high performance H2 MASERS. Ron's experiment was trying to build an H2 MASER with superfluid He coated walls. Best, -John

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels)

2010-09-02 Thread J. Forster
Back to the Palladium plug for a minute. The problem you mentioned about the valve not shutting off completely is analogous to the problem with HeCd LASERs. In a HeCd LASER, there is an oven with Cd metal in it that is heated to provide Cd ions to the discharge tube. There is also He in the tube.

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels)

2010-09-02 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Corby Dawson wrote: This EFOS maser typically runs with the two vacuum pressures below 1.5 X 10-6 Torr. (as measured via the ion pump current) Maximum should not exceed about 3.6 X 10-6 Torr for either pump. The internal vacuum will drop to about 1 X10-7 Torr

Re: [time-nuts] WeirdStuff tbolt $75 [eBay Link]

2010-09-02 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Oz-in-DFW wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/300457580821 And still more than 10 available. That listing appears to have ended. If I had gotten there in time, I'd have been tempted to buy a couple of them. My Thunderbolt is flaky (stops outputting serial data or

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels)

2010-09-02 Thread J. Forster
Two things helped a lot: Big pumps and an LN2 cold trap. The LN2 trap (as long as it is kept filled) will condense most everything except a few permanent gases. It also stops the backflow of pump oil. However, if something goes wrong, you would not believe the mess. A technician that worked for

Re: [time-nuts] WeirdStuff tbolt $75 [eBay Link]

2010-09-02 Thread Oz-in-DFW
There are several packaged versions up for $100 and modest shipping. On 9/2/2010 1:29 PM, Oz-in-DFW wrote: I'm guessing they had 18 and someone bought the last. On 9/2/2010 1:25 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Oz-in-DFW wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/300457580821 And

Re: [time-nuts] WeirdStuff tbolt $75 [eBay Link]

2010-09-02 Thread Oz-in-DFW
Sorry, sorgot to include link; http://cgi.ebay.com/330453047354 also more than 10 available. On 9/2/2010 1:31 PM, Oz-in-DFW wrote: There are several packaged versions up for $100 and modest shipping. On 9/2/2010 1:29 PM, Oz-in-DFW wrote: I'm guessing they had 18 and someone bought the

[time-nuts] Maser info (rough pumping)

2010-09-02 Thread Corby Dawson
With the triode pumps you only need the vacsorbs for roughing, as they will start at a higher pressure! I have changed two ion pumps so far and only used the vacsorbs to get back in operation. The vacsorbs and accessories were eBay buys over a period of a few months and very reasonable compared

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels)

2010-09-02 Thread Scott Newell
At 01:17 PM 9/2/2010, Mark J. Blair wrote: Back in college, I took a semiconductor device physics course which included a lab where we made simple ICs (the most complex devices were SR latches). We had a vapor deposition system for plating on gold or aluminum, which pumped the chamber down

[time-nuts] Maser (oil diffusion rough pumps)

2010-09-02 Thread Corby Dawson
John F. Google Maser contamination and you will find a Russian blurb describing what I'm talking about. Even with LN2 traps they had problems. Corby Dawson $350,000 Life Insurance Coverage as low as $13.04/month. Free, No Obligation

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels)

2010-09-02 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Scott Newell wrote: I think I took that same class (sub-basement of Steele, right?) just a few years after you. That would be the one! See, I knew that most anybody who attended that particular institution would recognize my description of that piece of

[time-nuts] Maser/Interociter

2010-09-02 Thread Corby Dawson
Bill, Here's a PIX if it does not get scrubbed off! Corby Mortgage Rates Hit 3.25% If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Obama's Refi Program

Re: [time-nuts] Maser (oil diffusion rough pumps)

2010-09-02 Thread J. Forster
Hi Corby, I don't doubt it for an instant. Oil pumps just don't hack it for UHV. If you are going to use oil pumps for almost anything serious you must use an LN2 trap. In a He Leak Detector, for example, an oil system is often used. BTW, Varian specifically say not to use Silicone oils as they

[time-nuts] Maser (RGA)

2010-09-02 Thread Corby Dawson
John F. I don't have an RGA as there are no leaks to speak of in the Maser. I do have an annoying leak in my roughing manifold but plan to pump it down and spray some helium around the suspect area and see if my millitorr gauge will respond. It's a tiny leak as I can do a pumpdown OK but I'd

Re: [time-nuts] Maser/Interociter

2010-09-02 Thread paul swed
we come from a different planet we mean no harm On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Corby Dawson cdel...@juno.com wrote: Bill, Here's a PIX if it does not get scrubbed off! Corby Mortgage Rates Hit 3.25% If you owe under $729k you

Re: [time-nuts] Maser (RGA)

2010-09-02 Thread J. Forster
John F. I don't have an RGA as there are no leaks to speak of in the Maser. Well, that's good! I do have an annoying leak in my roughing manifold but plan to pump it down and spray some helium around the suspect area and see if my millitorr gauge will respond. The choice of stuff to spray

Re: [time-nuts] WeirdStuff tbolt $75

2010-09-02 Thread Robert Benward
Leigh, What was your search term? The link does not produce anything. Bob - Original Message - From: Leigh L. Klotz, Jr WA5ZNU le...@wa5znu.org To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:06 PM Subject:

[time-nuts] Maser (pump life)

2010-09-02 Thread Corby Dawson
John F. The internal pump lifetime is reduced as it has to pump the waste Hydrogen after it leaves the bulb. These pumps elements swell after burying increasing amounts of Hydrogen and eventually short out. Corby Dawson Mortgage Rates

Re: [time-nuts] WeirdStuff tbolt $75

2010-09-02 Thread K. Szeker
Hi Bob, it was only shortfor time on the WeirdStuff-side on, after that on the firms shop/eBay side was the spoken situation, but yet its finished too... :-( http://cgi.ebay.ch/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=300457580821ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT Karesz 2010/9/2 Robert Benward rbenw...@verizon.net:

Re: [time-nuts] Maser (pump life)

2010-09-02 Thread J. Forster
John F. The internal pump lifetime is reduced as it has to pump the waste Hydrogen after it leaves the bulb. OK. Understood. These pumps elements swell after burying increasing amounts of Hydrogen and eventually short out. Some pumps have replacable elements. Do these? Or do you have to

[time-nuts] Maser (pump rebuild)

2010-09-02 Thread Corby Dawson
John F. The pumps can be rebuilt. Duniway Stockroom here in CA. among others does the deed. Corby Moms Asked to Return to School Grant Funding May Be Available to Those That Qualify.

Re: [time-nuts] Maser (pump rebuild)

2010-09-02 Thread J. Forster
Hi Corby, Thanks. Duniway was the company, but it slipped my mind. They have about the best prices on Conflat stuff going, I think, outside of eBay. Best, -John == John F. The pumps can be rebuilt. Duniway Stockroom here in CA. among others does the deed. Corby

Re: [time-nuts] Small DMTD project PCBs Group Buy Update

2010-09-02 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 02/09/2010 01:58:00 GMT Daylight Time, stanley_reyno...@yahoo.com writes: Boards will be here Friday September 3. --- Hi Stanley Many thanks for the update, I'd like 4 Mixer PCBs please and 2 DDS PCBs and have just made payment for these via Paypal.

[time-nuts] Freestanding mast

2010-09-02 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
I'm curious what the best freestanding mast is for a timing antenna (think Lucent timing antenna or marine mushroom GPS antenna -- light and pretty small). The mast would have its highest support at rooftop or chimney-top level, and could extend from there as far downward as the ground with

[time-nuts] Looking for High Q ceramic cylinders

2010-09-02 Thread Peter Krengel
Hello, I'm looking for manufactors/distributors of High Q (high Epsilon r) ceramic materials. Best would be cylindrical forms of ~ 10-30mm diameter. Has anybody informations where to buy? Thanks in advance Peter, DG4EK ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] Freestanding mast

2010-09-02 Thread Chuck Harris
It may not be a problem where you are, but I should think that lightning might come to mind. Do you really want your GPS antenna up very high? -Chuck Harris Charles P. Steinmetz wrote: I'm curious what the best freestanding mast is for a timing antenna (think Lucent timing antenna or marine

Re: [time-nuts] Freestanding mast

2010-09-02 Thread Stanley Reynolds
ROHN 9H50 34 Foot Telescopic TV Wireless Antenna Push Up Mast http://www.3starinc.com/rohn_telescopic_masts.html I don't know this vendor just the first that came up in google. Stanley   - Original Message From: Charles P. Steinmetz charles_steinm...@lavabit.com To: Discussion of

Re: [time-nuts] Freestanding mast

2010-09-02 Thread Oz-in-DFW
On 9/2/2010 7:46 PM, Charles P. Steinmetz wrote: I'm curious what the best freestanding mast is for a timing antenna (think Lucent timing antenna or marine mushroom GPS antenna -- light and pretty small). The mast would have its highest support at rooftop or chimney-top level, and could

Re: [time-nuts] Freestanding mast

2010-09-02 Thread J. Forster
I was just about to suggest a ham antenna tower. The triangular truss design is very rigid, yet presents low wind loading. I think there are application notes that help with siting and selection. Rohn is a very standard and pretty well respected name in the business. They also have a good

Re: [time-nuts] Freestanding mast

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi There are a lot of chimney mount antenna supports. They should get you up 6 feet above the top of the chimney. Simple to install and pretty cheap. Bob On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:46 PM, Charles P. Steinmetz charles_steinm...@lavabit.com wrote: I'm curious what the best freestanding mast is

Re: [time-nuts] Freestanding mast

2010-09-02 Thread Stanley Reynolds
Picked that one as it fit the 3 wide request and is UPS shippable. The brackets and ground plate were also available. Stanley - Original Message From: J. Forster j...@quik.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010

Re: [time-nuts] Freestanding mast

2010-09-02 Thread Stan, W1LE
Hello Charles, Last September I had some roof work done and I had added 2 each 1-1/2 vent pipe penetrations just below the ridge. Now I have a place to add the GPS antenna, either a hockey puck type or a more sophisticated one. The hockey puck was added to a length of PVC conduit to

Re: [time-nuts] Freestanding mast

2010-09-02 Thread Richard W. Solomon
Make sure you are sitting down when you check the shipping charges. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: Stanley Reynolds stanley_reyno...@yahoo.com Sent: Sep 2, 2010 9:16 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts]

Re: [time-nuts] Freestanding mast

2010-09-02 Thread Stanley Reynolds
$32.61 for me but maybe you are further away, heavy stuff, maybe it would pay to shop for a closer vendor. Stanley - Original Message From: Richard W. Solomon w1...@earthlink.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010

Re: [time-nuts] Freestanding mast

2010-09-02 Thread k6rtm
I've a Symmetricom(HP) 58532A antenna on a six foot mast -- T6061 aluminum schedule 40 pipe. Not as cheap as cast schedule 40 from the home store, but a lot lighter! The previous mast was a length of cheezy Radio Shack antenna mast -- thin wall stuff. The mount for the 58532A wanted larger

Re: [time-nuts] Freestanding mast

2010-09-02 Thread Steve Rooke
If your nearby houses and obstructions are not high, IE. if the houses there are single story, you may be able to get away with what I have done. Instead of fixing something on the house, I've attached a couple of antenna to the top of one of my washing line poles in the garden as this faces South

Re: [time-nuts] Freestanding mast

2010-09-02 Thread Heathkid
Bob, Don't get me started on my Davis Instruments Vantage Pro 2 with BIRDS... and the rain bucket! ;) How many times have you cleaned yours out this year? Spiders and Wasps are the worst. But... unfortunately, my flag pole is now the weather station mount (wireless version) and it's too

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels)

2010-09-02 Thread jimlux
Mark J. Blair wrote: On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Corby Dawson wrote: This EFOS maser typically runs with the two vacuum pressures below 1.5 X 10-6 Torr. (as measured via the ion pump current) Maximum should not exceed about 3.6 X 10-6 Torr for either pump. The internal vacuum will drop to

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels)

2010-09-02 Thread Heathkid
Sounds like the parts of a salvaged SEM would be a good start for a project such as this (assuming the diffusion pump is included - I've been looking for one for a while but it seems the pumps are almost *always* missing). But still, if you could find one locally (freight is $$$) there are a

Re: [time-nuts] Maser (pump rebuild)

2010-09-02 Thread jimlux
Corby Dawson wrote: John F. The pumps can be rebuilt. Duniway Stockroom here in CA. among others does the deed. Duniway is great for odds and ends on vacuum gear in general. Sure, you can buy stuff surplus, but you always wind up needing some funky plumbing, or a seal kit, or some rebuild

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels)

2010-09-02 Thread Heathkid
Surplus (free to good home table)? Try finding someone who works with these pumps every day who will even part with an OLD pump (even if it doesn't work) just because... a broken spare is better than not having anything at all. ;) - Original Message - From: jimlux

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for High Q ceramic cylinders

2010-09-02 Thread jimlux
Peter Krengel wrote: Hello, I'm looking for manufactors/distributors of High Q (high Epsilon r) ceramic materials. Best would be cylindrical forms of ~ 10-30mm diameter. Mfrs... Epson Coors Murata Erie TDK All have reps world wide google alumina substrate That will get you started with

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels)

2010-09-02 Thread jimlux
Heathkid wrote: Sounds like the parts of a salvaged SEM would be a good start for a project such as this (assuming the diffusion pump is included - I've been looking for one for a while but it seems the pumps are almost *always* missing). But still, if you could find one locally (freight is

Re: [time-nuts] Freestanding mast

2010-09-02 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
Stanley wrote: ROHN 9H50 34 Foot Telescopic TV Wireless Antenna Push Up Mast Interesting suggestion. Rohn is well known to me, though I don't typically think of them for things like push-up masts. For those suggesting 6-10' of pipe, at my rooftop I get a reception cone of about 50

[time-nuts] OT: weather stations

2010-09-02 Thread k6rtm
Brice-- I'm also running weather display: http://home.comcast.net/~weatherbox/wxsc/wx.html I don't know an easy way to automagically sync the Davis clock with the tbolt other than what WD offers (LH and WD are hosted on the same Windows box, and LH whacks the clock on that box). I make sure