Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread Hal Murray
> Now to the negative part , noise floor from around 21MHz to well over 500MHz > raised to a signal strength 5 to 6 across mid to upper HF / lower VHF to > upper UHF with them switched on, otherwise my noise floor is Zero. > Lower VHF to UHF SSB/FM low level signal work is now not possible when

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO recommendation

2011-10-11 Thread Hal Murray
> I have been using Rb oscillators as my standard for a while but would like > to be able to have both a frequency as well as time standard which is > synchronized to something outside my lab. I would like to have: > Frequency stability at least as good as the Rb osc Time server which can be

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread Chris Albertson
Another connection from Time Nuts to incandescent light bulbs is the early HP Wien bridge oscillators. They used the light bulb for amplitude stabilization. This light bulb stabilized oscillator is what put the HP company on the map. There was a time when these oscillators where the best availabl

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO recommendation

2011-10-11 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Peter Gottlieb wrote: > I have been using Rb oscillators as my standard for a while but would like > to be able to have both a frequency as well as time standard which is > synchronized to something outside my lab. I would like to have: > > Frequency stability at

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFTG-m-XO GPSDO

2011-10-11 Thread Peter Bell
For some reason, the "No GPS" LED is back - although the GPS is tracking 8 satellites in 3D mode and according to the TRAIM status the timing error is below the alarm threshhold (alarm = 1300ns, current = 43ns) - I guess the uinit has it's own standards for the GPS quality, and they are being viola

Re: [time-nuts] [Bulk] Re: the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safepower-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread J. L. Trantham
My apologies to the 'time-nuts'. If you think about it, electricity generation is mostly 'fixed cost'. Only the coal fired plants have a significant 'variable cost' factor. Therefore, if 'fixed cost', the utilities need a relatively steady flow of cash to fund their operations since there is n

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFTG-m-XO GPSDO

2011-10-11 Thread Peter Bell
For some reason, the "No GPS" LED is back - although the GPS is tracking 8 satellites in 3D mode and according to the TRAIM status the timing error is below the alarm threshhold (alarm = 1300ns, current = 43ns) - I guess the uinit has it's own standards for the GPS quality, and they are being viola

[time-nuts] GPSDO recommendation

2011-10-11 Thread Peter Gottlieb
I have been using Rb oscillators as my standard for a while but would like to be able to have both a frequency as well as time standard which is synchronized to something outside my lab. I would like to have: Frequency stability at least as good as the Rb osc Time server which can be accessed

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread John Howell
Sorry Tom, (again!), Just as significant is the radiation from compact fluorescent lamps, many radiate strongly in the 50-60KHz region from their SMPSs. This has been the reason for failure of several clocks I am aware of that are tuned to radiocode transmissions on 60KHz. John H. On 12 Oct 2

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread Gerald Molenkamp
Hi All, Sorry Tom, worth a mention. I replaced all of my down lights after my Kids wanted us to contribute to lowering our carbon footprint. On the positive side, moving to LEDs will provide savings around $107/year in electricity charges. Now to the negative part , noise floor from around 21M

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread Peter Gottlieb
There is one angle that was not covered, but which is relevant (at least to those of us using any LF or HF time receivers). Over the weekend I bought my first LED bulb. It was on sale and I wanted to see how it worked. On the package it gave a warning that it could interfere with HF communic

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread Alan Melia
Mmmm but halogens dont have a lot of life run at below the rated spec ! Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: "Chris Albertson" To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:29 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread John Howell
Incandescent lamps also have the property of a cold resistance very much lower than that at design voltage. Used in series with drills and bathroom fans this gives a useful current surge at switch-on. And the [time-nuts] connection? I use a torch bulb in series with the drive to a dry cell powe

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread Tom Van Baak
This thread is wonderful, nostalgic, technical, futuristic, and appropriate for someone's list. But not time-nuts. Please stop it now. Don't reply. /tvb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bi

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread David VanHorn
My Lava Lamps will be ok, if I can still get resistors. :) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Neville Michie wrote: > Incandescent light bulbs are very useful... > ...It will be a pity to see them turn to unobtainium. There is no plan for them to go away (at least in California), halogen bulbs meet the new energy standards. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Bea

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread Neville Michie
Incandescent light bulbs are very useful. They are a high dissipation resistor with a lot of uses. I have one in series with a bathroom ceiling fan, just kept plugging smaller watt values in until the fan was quiet enough but still fully functional. I have one in series with a micro drill press

[time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread Mark Sims
I now have my house converted over completely to LED bulbs... over 300 of them (mostly PAR16/PAR20/PAR30/PAR38 bulbs)! At retail the cost would have been over $15,000 dollars!!! Totally insane... I have a large closet totally dedicated to light bulbs.When incandecents/halogens are no

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFTG-m-XO GPSDO

2011-10-11 Thread k4...@aol.com
If I recall, the firmware in the RFTGm collects about an hours worth of position info and does an average to establish a self-survey. The next time you cycle power, it will check the new position against the stored one and if within 50 feet or so, it will use the stored position. That's probab

Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card

2011-10-11 Thread Bob Camp
Hi My experience with several VM's has been unrewarding in terms of drivers. The driver lives on the main OS and may or may not pass through to the VM. You seem to get a sub-set of the main OS devices in the VM... Not a good thing for hardware hacking. Bob -Original Message- From: time

Re: [time-nuts] [volt-nuts] Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread Peter Gottlieb
Nice try. The stuff I fix is not my own, it is incoming with unknown history. Once I fix things they generally stay fixed. Think of my testing as a form of HASS... I don't like to get things back which I repaired. If capacitors are weak, I would rather replace them than play with

Re: [time-nuts] [volt-nuts] Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread WarrenS
Peter Gottlieb nerd at verizon.net wrote: 99% of the time I just plug things in and see what happens. I do fix a lot of stuff, though, Hmmm, I have to wonder if there is more than a casual cause and effect relationship between those two statements. I've seen a strong relationship between t

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFTG-m-XO GPSDO

2011-10-11 Thread Peter Bell
The Rx was defective - I just got the new one, hooked it up to my little test rig anf the antenna, and it happily picked up satellites and got a position fix. Swapped it into the box, and found a TTL level copy of the RX data stream from the encore on pin 2 of the interface connector, so hooked th

Re: [time-nuts] [volt-nuts] Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread Peter Gottlieb
Hmmm. 99% of the time I just plug things in and see what happens. That's what they were designed to do. If something pops I fix it from there. If a fuse keeps blowing I use the light bulb in series trick. On older tube gear I do "softly" bring it up with the variable autotransformer (Varia

Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card

2011-10-11 Thread Peter Bell
Yeah, it's a bit of a pain - it's basically intended for people running old XP apps that they don't want to (or can't) port to the newer versions of Windows. The other thing to watch out for is that as far as I'm aware all the hardware is emulated with a little hack to allow USB passthough - so the

Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card

2011-10-11 Thread gary
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx I didn't install it, but it looks like if you have win 7 pro 64 bit, it is a free download. You need to use IE and instal a validation plugin. Half a gig of a download! Now I suspect a 32bit driver might work with the VM. I have an ol

Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card

2011-10-11 Thread Peter Bell
Thry are two different things - you're talking about the compatibity mode built into the OS, but the other poster is talking about "Windows XP mode" - which is basically a copy of XP running inside a Virtual PC VM that's available as a download for the "business" variants of Win 7 (which are, not c

Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card

2011-10-11 Thread gary
On my win7 pro 64 bit systems, there was nothing to download. It is already in the OS. Use windows explorer, right click on executable, select properties, then comparability. Options go as far back as win95. The feature never really seemed to be essential. The 32 bit emulator always worked.