Re: [time-nuts] Cheap 5370A on eBay

2014-12-20 Thread Orin Eman
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > In message , Mark Sims > writes: > > >I believe there are 5370 ROM dumps on KO4BB.COM > > They're also in the BBB-5370 repos. > > >I few years back i posted on this forum how I restored a 5370A > >that had a missing ROM boar

[time-nuts] DeLorme Tripmate GPS receiver

2014-12-20 Thread ed breya
I just picked up an old DeLorme Tripmate GPS receiver for cheap, and am wondering if it can be used for getting a 1 PPS signal. I looked online a little and found it's pretty common, but didn't see anything about getting deep into the guts. Most hacks seemed to be about getting it powered up, f

Re: [time-nuts] Simple AC mains zero-cross detector

2014-12-20 Thread Mike Garvey
>From a Time-Nut perspective, isn't phase/frequency of the (nominal) 60 Hz all we'd be interested in? Phase is best measured at a zero crossing as this is the (only) phase measurement point which is independent of amplitude. Mike -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun..

Re: [time-nuts] Simple AC mains zero-cross detector

2014-12-20 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Magnus wrote: So, I do not completely agree that a through-zero measurement with a TIC has all the information No, a series of time-stamped zero crossings doesn't have all of the information in the original signal, and a small glitch that occurs during the middle of a cycle (far away from a

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for J1 pinout newly purchased 10811D

2014-12-20 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Ulli wrote: I would also be interested to learn for which devices these board were originally made - couldn't find anything. The board should have a part number etched in copper, of the form "0-y". "" should be the instrument model number. Best regards, Charles

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for J1 pinout newly purchased 10811D

2014-12-20 Thread Mod Mix
Thanks, Charles. The board should have a part number etched in copper, of the form "0-y". "" should be the instrument model number. 08770-y is etched in copper => 8770A Arbitrary Waveform Synthesizer. 8770A spec: REFERENCE OSCILLATOT (10 MHz Quartz) Aging rate < 5 x 10^^-10/day

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for J1 pinout newly purchased 10811D

2014-12-20 Thread Dave M
Mod Mix wrote: Hi, the HP 10811D I just purchased (one like ebay #300568433895) resides on a small pcb. Could someone pls guide me which voltage for the LM317 feeding the oscillator with 12V should be applied at J1/1 and J1/2 ? I would also be interested to learn for which devices these board w

[time-nuts] Looking for J1 pinout newly purchased 10811D

2014-12-20 Thread Mod Mix
Hi, the HP 10811D I just purchased (one like ebay #300568433895) resides on a small pcb. Could someone pls guide me which voltage for the LM317 feeding the oscillator with 12V should be applied at J1/1 and J1/2 ? I would also be interested to learn for which devices these board were original

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 adjustable PLL time-constant

2014-12-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi > On Dec 20, 2014, at 10:26 AM, Ole Petter Ronningen wrote: > > I know these has been discussed to death here, so my apologies for that. > Also, apologies if this has already been reported; i did not find it in the > archives.. You are the first to dig into the PFORTH side of this box. > >

Re: [time-nuts] Homebrew frequency counter, new board test result

2014-12-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi > On Dec 20, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Li Ang wrote: > > Hi >It's me again. I was debugging the new FPGA version board this week. > The attached file is the test result of this new board, and 2 tests of CPLD > version(2014/12/11) are also included. There are few things changed between > these 2

[time-nuts] Homebrew frequency counter, new board test result

2014-12-20 Thread Li Ang
Hi It's me again. I was debugging the new FPGA version board this week. The attached file is the test result of this new board, and 2 tests of CPLD version(2014/12/11) are also included. There are few things changed between these 2 version: 1) CPLD -> FPGA 2) XC6206 -> TPS79333 for TDC power su

Re: [time-nuts] Cheap 5370A on eBay

2014-12-20 Thread Mike S
On 12/19/2014 10:40 PM, Mark Sims wrote: I few years back i posted on this forum how I restored a 5370A that had a missing ROM board by installing an EEPROM into the empty socket on the CPU board. Based off of that, I did similar, and documented it here: http://www.flatsurface.com/5370A/ _

Re: [time-nuts] Simple AC mains zero-cross detector

2014-12-20 Thread Magnus Danielson
Charles, On 12/20/2014 09:24 AM, Charles Steinmetz wrote: Gary wrote: I try to minimize dangerous voltages. Anyway, the filtering reduces the slew, so you can't have it both ways. Starting with 120v gives you 10x the slew rate that starting with 12v does, whatever filtering you use. If by

[time-nuts] KS-24361 adjustable PLL time-constant

2014-12-20 Thread Ole Petter Ronningen
I know these has been discussed to death here, so my apologies for that. Also, apologies if this has already been reported; i did not find it in the archives.. It might be of interest to some that it appears that the KS-boxes has an adjustable PLL time constant: :SYST:LANG "PFORTH" >pll_rep start

Re: [time-nuts] Simple AC mains zero-cross detector

2014-12-20 Thread Magnus Danielson
Yes, PMUs makes it a bit different. Here is a random paper someone wrote: https://rubidium.dyndns.org/~magnus/papers/KTH_paper1.pdf PMUs samples at some "high" frequency, mixes down the network frequency to base-band, filters away the mirror frequency before sub-sampling it into the configured

Re: [time-nuts] Simple AC mains zero-cross detector

2014-12-20 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Gary wrote: I try to minimize dangerous voltages. Anyway, the filtering reduces the slew, so you can't have it both ways. Starting with 120v gives you 10x the slew rate that starting with 12v does, whatever filtering you use. If by post processing you are averaging, then you certainly hav

Re: [time-nuts] Time Nuts Overload, part 2

2014-12-20 Thread Tom Van Baak
Hi everyone, In case you didn't notice -- for the past few days the list is in "moderation mode" -- where all posts are held for review. No worries; we do this now and then. You may continue to post. It just means there will be some delay (minutes to hours) between when you hit send and when

[time-nuts] ESA atomic clocks in space

2014-12-20 Thread Magnus Danielson
Fellow time-nuts, Another project to blast atomic clocks into space: http://www.space-airbusds.com/en/press_centre/airbus-defence-and-space-assembles-most-precise-clock-ensemble-ever-for-k0q.html Would not mind a set of those in my lab. Cheers, Magnus __

Re: [time-nuts] Cheap 5370A on eBay

2014-12-20 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Mark Sims writes: >I believe there are 5370 ROM dumps on KO4BB.COM They're also in the BBB-5370 repos. >I few years back i posted on this forum how I restored a 5370A >that had a missing ROM board by installing an EEPROM into the empty >socket on the CPU board. I did h

[time-nuts] Cheap 5370A on eBay

2014-12-20 Thread Mark Sims
I believe there are 5370 ROM dumps on KO4BB.COM I few years back i posted on this forum how I restored a 5370A that had a missing ROM board by installing an EEPROM into the empty socket on the CPU board. I did have to jumper a couple of address lines to the EEPROM and perhaps tweak the da

Re: [time-nuts] Hydrogen Maser Kit part 3

2014-12-20 Thread Bill Hawkins
Corby, that's gorgeous. Can't think of a better man to accept that challenge, tvb excepted. Were I twenty (or 30) years younger, I'd love a challenge like that, but my employer would not allow time for such a project. What I've done while working is accumulate stuff to do when I retire. That happ