Re: [time-nuts] Modern HW replacement for ATOM based NTP server?

2015-04-07 Thread Chris Albertson
The ball bearing fan upgrade is the best idea. Bater idea is to put in a temperature controlled fan so it will spin slow or stop most of the time. I don't see the need to run each server on it's own hardware. Put the cashing DNS server on the same box as the NTP server. Or if you do have two

Re: [time-nuts] Modern HW replacement for ATOM based NTP server?

2015-04-07 Thread Daniel Mendes
I think beagle bone black is the answer to this question (because rPi has a USB-network interface that´s problematic) but i´ll let others that know more than me about this specific subject follow on Daniel On 06/04/2015 19:29, Frank Hughes via time-nuts wrote: Hi,Years ago this forum

Re: [time-nuts] Modern HW replacement for ATOM based NTP server?

2015-04-07 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Frank Hughes via time-nuts time-nuts@febo.com wrote: Looking for a platform not needing a fan. While the ATOM and SSD seem to be OK w/o direct airflow, the Mini ITX Power Supply fan is needed. After three years, the stupid sleeve bearings are beginning to

Re: [time-nuts] Modern HW replacement for ATOM based NTP server?

2015-04-07 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 22:29:23 + (UTC) Frank Hughes via time-nuts time-nuts@febo.com wrote: Looking for a platform not needing a fan. While the ATOM and SSD seem to be OK w/o direct airflow, the Mini ITX Power Supply fan is needed. That depends highly on how much knowledge in linux and

Re: [time-nuts] Need advice for multilateration setup

2015-04-07 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 23:02:01 +0200 Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: You want to keep your chip-rate up to make the integer ambiguity of the carrier phase simple. The carrier frequency divided by chipping rate ratio indicate how difficult problem it is to solve (GPS L1 C/A

Re: [time-nuts] 53230A noise floor

2015-04-07 Thread Ole Petter Ronningen
Tangetially relevant; I made a patch for TimeLab to use the gap-free frequency measurement-mode for the 53230A, if anyone is interested. On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote: There is probably a good explanation for the ADEV-level in standard (pi-counting?)

Re: [time-nuts] Modern HW replacement for ATOM based NTP server?

2015-04-07 Thread Hal Murray
albertson.ch...@gmail.com said: In terms of performance, ARM based credit card sized computers do well if you can get the PPS to the general purpose I/O pin that interrupts on an edge. the Pi can't do that the BeagleBone Black can and it sell for $45. What/why can't the Pi do? I have one

Re: [time-nuts] Modern HW replacement for ATOM based NTP server?

2015-04-07 Thread Daniel Mendes
Internally the rPI is a ver awkward beast: the CPU is connected to a GPU, and the GPU is connected to the GPIOs... so lots of jitter and latency. It was designed to be a video decoder... the CPU is there for testing and housekeeping. It works, surelly, but it´s not designed to have low

Re: [time-nuts] Modern HW replacement for ATOM based NTP server?

2015-04-07 Thread Paul
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Frank Hughes via time-nuts time-nuts@febo.com wrote: Or just put a ball-bearing fan in Sites like lilliputing follow the low power/embedded market. I'd suggest starting there. All of my low power systems use power bricks. This includes mini-itx boards. I've

Re: [time-nuts] Need advice for multilateration setup

2015-04-07 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, On 04/07/2015 02:08 PM, Attila Kinali wrote: On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 23:02:01 +0200 Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: You want to keep your chip-rate up to make the integer ambiguity of the carrier phase simple. The carrier frequency divided by chipping rate ratio indicate

Re: [time-nuts] Modern HW replacement for ATOM based NTP server?

2015-04-07 Thread David J Taylor
I think beagle bone black is the answer to this question (because rPi has a USB-network interface that´s problematic) but i´ll let others that know more than me about this specific subject follow on Daniel == Problematic if you are after

Re: [time-nuts] Mini-time lab cost and maintenance

2015-04-07 Thread Ole Petter Ronningen
Every timelab needs a time interval counter. I'd say look for a HP 5334B with option 010. I've picked up two from ebay for about USD100 each, and that comes with a decent 18011. After that, watch your cash disappear as you discover a need for faster/better/more accurate instruments, not to mention

Re: [time-nuts] 53230A noise floor

2015-04-07 Thread Mod Mix
Ole Petter Ronningen: Tangetially relevant; I made a patch for TimeLab to use the gap-free frequency measurement-mode for the 53230A, if anyone is interested. Thanks for this great support! Ulli ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] Modern HW replacement for ATOM based NTP server?

2015-04-07 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 17:39:01 +0100 David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Problematic if you are after microsecond-level accuracy, perhaps, but so would the BeagleBone be. If your needs are more in the 100 microsecond range, either would be fine with a reasonably wide PPS pulse.

Re: [time-nuts] Modern HW replacement for ATOM based NTP server?

2015-04-07 Thread Hal Murray
Looking for a platform not needing a fan. While the ATOM and SSD seem to be OK w/o direct airflow, the Mini ITX Power Supply fan is needed. If you are happy with Raspberry Pi or BeagleBone Black, they are the low cost low power way to go. They run Linux. They don't have a real disk. If

Re: [time-nuts] Modern HW replacement for ATOM based NTP server?

2015-04-07 Thread Edesio Costa e Silva
Hi! Take a look at https://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/2014-December/089217.html and https://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/2014-December/089681.html. There you can see sub-microsecond accuracy. Edésio On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 09:52:57PM +0200, Attila Kinali wrote: On Tue, 7 Apr 2015

Re: [time-nuts] Need advice for multilateration setup

2015-04-07 Thread Jim Lux
On 4/7/15 11:33 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: Hi, O One might look at the available frequencies and see if there is a telemetry band available which allows wider bandwidth. For the application, I don't see that very much transmitted power is needed. If the OP is a licensed amateur radio

Re: [time-nuts] Modern HW replacement for ATOM based NTP server?

2015-04-07 Thread Didier Juges
Is the new RPi2 any different in that regard? On April 7, 2015 8:17:12 AM CDT, Daniel Mendes dmend...@gmail.com wrote: Internally the rPI is a ver awkward beast: the CPU is connected to a GPU, and the GPU is connected to the GPIOs... so lots of jitter and latency. It was designed to be a video

Re: [time-nuts] Modern HW replacement for ATOM based NTP server?

2015-04-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Now you need to sort out the B, the A+ and the B+ in the Raspberry world. There may be more that I have not yet noticed. As far as I can tell, they all are pretty limited once you get past the tight video integration on the B and B+. Bob On Apr 7, 2015, at 12:41 PM, Didier Juges

Re: [time-nuts] Modern HW replacement for ATOM based NTP server?

2015-04-07 Thread Daniel Mendes
On 07/04/2015 17:58, Hal Murray wrote: If you are happy with Raspberry Pi or BeagleBone Black, they are the low cost low power way to go. They run Linux. They don't have a real disk. If you do a lot of disk activity, you might wear out the SD card frequently enough to be annoying. That