Re: [time-nuts] FS HP 5335A

2016-05-17 Thread Rob Sherwood .
I am a frequency nut, as opposed to a time nut. There may be some correlation between the two subjects! 😄 I will be at Horror Arena this weekend, too. Would be fun to meet the gang. Rob Sherwood NC0B Sent from my iPad > On May 17, 2016, at 4:09 PM, Tom Holmes wrote: > > > > For some reaso

[time-nuts] Last Call Group Buy Ublox LEA-6T

2016-05-17 Thread Mark Sims
There is what looks like a decent carrier board for Ublox modules on OSHPARK.COM's shared project library. It has a voltage regulator and RS-232 interface on it... would be nicer if it had a prototype area and swoopty PPS driver, but I'm too lazy to lay out a better one. Three boards will cos

[time-nuts] Last Call Group Buy Ublox LEA-6T

2016-05-17 Thread Bob Stewart
Hi guys, This is the last call for the group buy of the Ublox LEA-6T modules. Just be be sure you know what you're getting: these are new in package LEA-6T modules. They are not on a breakout board of any type. I have the following names and quantities. If your name is not on this list, p

Re: [time-nuts] FS HP 5335A

2016-05-17 Thread Tom Holmes
HI Bob... Thanks for the tip. Have been down that road with this one and it didn't fix it. I think someone may have deliberately disabled the internal timebase to prevent users from having anything but the house standard in play. Tom Holmes, N8ZM -Original Message- From: time-nuts [ma

Re: [time-nuts] GENIUS by Stephen Hawking (PBS TV), with 5071A cesium clocks

2016-05-17 Thread Tom Van Baak
The TV show is tomorrow, Wednesday evening. 8/9 PM, or something like that. Here are fresh web pages with background information, photos, and plots: http://leapsecond.com/great2016a/ http://leapsecond.com/great2016a/photos.htm I have no idea how minor my role is in the actual TV episode, but if

[time-nuts] Late model HP 105B update

2016-05-17 Thread Perry Sandeen via time-nuts
List, I Goofed. The 2848A late model info is on is on Dider's site as a HP 105B "Supplement". The HP *Supplement* instructions are: butcher a perfectly good earlier model service manual add info here and delete info there, pencil in changes making the original manual a piece of garbage. They were

Re: [time-nuts] Late Model HP 105B shematic

2016-05-17 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Search for 105B on Didier's site.There are 2 files that contain the relevant schematics and change data for versions with10811A's. Although my 10811A equipped HP105B variant appears to have the old power supply with MC1468's rather than the later version using LM317's. Bruce On Wednesday

[time-nuts] CS Jr. Clarification

2016-05-17 Thread Perry Sandeen via time-nuts
Hi, Thanks to all who replied and made the lite in my brain go on. Probably a great niche product but not for me. Regards, Perrier ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tim

[time-nuts] Late Model HP 105B shematic

2016-05-17 Thread Perry Sandeen via time-nuts
Hi, Thanks for all the suggestions for the ski but I still have drawn a blank. However I was able to get a large amount of similar data of of Dider's web site. And thanks Charles for your phase noise postings. More for me to learn. Regards, Perrier

Re: [time-nuts] FS HP 5335A

2016-05-17 Thread Graham
Does not have the basic internal timebase or doesn't have the OCXO timebase? I have one in which I put an OCXO and required snipping/removing a jumper on the main board to disconnect the onboard timebase. Perhaps some where sold with OCXO only and never had an onboard timebase on the main boa

Re: [time-nuts] Cs jr.

2016-05-17 Thread jimlux
On 5/17/16 4:07 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: Tom, On 05/17/2016 02:02 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote: The CSAC behaves like a gas cell device (similar to a Rubidium) We do live in a “no free lunch” sort of world. For measured ADEV of a CSAC (as well as no free lunch) see: http://leapsecond.com/pag

Re: [time-nuts] FS HP 5335A

2016-05-17 Thread Bob Stewart
Hi, I know this is a for sale post, but there's a jumper that needs to be there to work with the regulator oscillator. Page 2-4 of the Operating and Service Manual (05335-90021) details the instructions for installing the Option 010, the 10811 OCXO. Instruction "c" is below. You'd need to ad

Re: [time-nuts] Cs jr.

2016-05-17 Thread Magnus Danielson
Tom, On 05/17/2016 02:02 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote: The CSAC behaves like a gas cell device (similar to a Rubidium) We do live in a “no free lunch” sort of world. For measured ADEV of a CSAC (as well as no free lunch) see: http://leapsecond.com/pages/csac/ Is this an illustration of a popul

[time-nuts] FS HP 5335A

2016-05-17 Thread Tom Holmes
For some reason it did not have an internal timebase when I got it, and throws an error, UNLESS you have an external 10 MHz connected before you turn it on. Then it works fine. Please contact off list for details, AND if you happen to be in Dayton, OH, this weekend for a little ham radio sw

Re: [time-nuts] CSAC Performance - Symmetricom vs Microsemi

2016-05-17 Thread jimlux
On 5/17/16 10:28 AM, Brent wrote: Since CSAC's just popped up on the radar, has anyone measured the performance of the CSAC since the acquisition by Microsemi and compared it to the performance of CSAC's previously produced by Symmetricom? I don't know that there's any difference per-se.. I he

[time-nuts] CSAC Performance - Symmetricom vs Microsemi

2016-05-17 Thread Brent
Since CSAC's just popped up on the radar, has anyone measured the performance of the CSAC since the acquisition by Microsemi and compared it to the performance of CSAC's previously produced by Symmetricom? I've heard some anecdotal comments that performance has degraded - can anyone verify? Brent

Re: [time-nuts] Cs jr.

2016-05-17 Thread jimlux
On 5/16/16 5:52 PM, Perry Sandeen via time-nuts wrote: List, Several years ago we were enthralled by the NIST designed Cs that still needed cal once in a while. It was listed for sale IIRC for $1400 or so. Are you thinking of the CSAC? Chip Scale Atomic Clock? From Microsemi( nee Symmetricom

Re: [time-nuts] Cs jr.

2016-05-17 Thread Tom Van Baak
> The CSAC behaves like a gas cell device (similar to a Rubidium) > We do live in a “no free lunch” sort of world. For measured ADEV of a CSAC (as well as no free lunch) see: http://leapsecond.com/pages/csac/ /tvb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nu

Re: [time-nuts] Cs jr.

2016-05-17 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Take a careful look at the specs on the SA.31M before you buy one. It may or may not be what you are looking for in terms of stability and temperature range. We do live in a “no free lunch” sort of world. There will always be tradeoffs in any design. It’s an amazing part, they did a lot in

Re: [time-nuts] Cs jr.

2016-05-17 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 17 May 2016 00:52:00 + (UTC) Perry Sandeen via time-nuts wrote: > Several years ago we were enthralled by the NIST designed Cs that > still needed cal once in a while. Which one do you mean? > It was listed for sale IIRC for $1400 or so. > Since then it has seemed to have fallen o

Re: [time-nuts] Cs jr.

2016-05-17 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, Well, John Kipling who was the program champion for it at NIST got his award during the IFCS conference. He managed to convince people and also not back down from goals. It is certainly being looked at continuation work such as "NIST on a chip" type of applications so more diverse set of

Re: [time-nuts] IFCS and a few other things

2016-05-17 Thread Hal Murray
mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org said: > Friday was spectacular, as we where a few lucky to be bussed out the LIGO > detector, Livingston. Extremely fascinating hardware. It's essentially a > Michelson interferometer with 4 km arms. When you are there you only see > half of it, as the building half-w

Re: [time-nuts] patents and hobbyist projects

2016-05-17 Thread Charles Steinmetz
I wrote: We will have to see how the Limelight case develops (i.e., is interpreted in future decisions), but it was issued in a "methods" case (as distinguished from the familiar case of physical widgets) and is probably pretty narrow. Lots of development has already happened. The Supreme Co

Re: [time-nuts] Schematic needed

2016-05-17 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Perry wrote: I bought a HP 105B that is a later version. All the manuals I've searched for end up being for the original version. I'm pretty sure the file on Didier's site is the later version (1989) with 10811. Best regards, Charles ___ time-

[time-nuts] Cs jr.

2016-05-17 Thread Perry Sandeen via time-nuts
List,   Several years ago we were enthralled by the NIST designed Cs that still needed cal once in a while. It was listed for sale IIRC for $1400 or so. Since then it has seemed to have fallen off of the radar screen. Does anyone have any follow-up info? Regards, Perrier   ___

[time-nuts] IFCS and a few other things

2016-05-17 Thread Magnus Danielson
Dear fellow time-nuts, Last week as the International Frequency Control Seminar (IFCS) 2016 in New Orleans. I thought it may be of some interest to list-members to read some recollection of the events, from the top of my head. This was my first time to the IFCS as well as New Orleans, so ther