[time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-18 Thread Jim Hall
I'm looking to buy either an HP 5370B or SR620 counter. I can probably get the HP unit for less money but don't mind paying more if the SR counter is definitely better for Time Nuts type measurements (e.g. Allen Deviation). Thanks! Jim Hall W4TVI ___

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Jim Palfreyman
I have a 5370B and love it. It's big, and postage to Australia was as much as the unit itself, but what it can do - especially given its vintage - makes it a perfect unit for my rack! And the manual (plus people here) make it really great if there are ever any problems. Don't underestimate the 5

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Roy Phillips
the 5335A seem to be similar. Roy - Original Message - From: "Jim Palfreyman" To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620 I have a 5370B and love it. It's big,

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Jim Palfreyman
gt; time-nuts@febo.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 10:35 AM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620 > > > > I have a 5370B and love it. >> >> It's big, and postage to Australia was as much as the unit itself, but >> what >> it can do - espec

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Chuck Harris
Jim Palfreyman wrote: I have a 5370B and love it. It's big, and postage to Australia was as much as the unit itself, but what it can do - especially given its vintage - makes it a perfect unit for my rack! And the manual (plus people here) make it really great if there are ever any problems. D

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Didier Juges
19, 2009 7:20 AM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620 > > Jim Palfreyman wrote: > > I have a 5370B and love it. > > > > It's big, and postage to Australia was as much as the unit > itself, but &g

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Pete
Roy, The 5370s have a few quirks that you should know about to avoid possible surprises. These aren't newly discovered & have been the subject of various postings a few years ago. 1) Both instruments have some front end coupling with the data path & the timebase. This was mostly corrected in

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <54d2d91a9dd3422b80f4f02de65e9...@d400>, Didier Juges writes: >I have two 5370A but no 5370B, so I cannot comment on practical differences, >beyond the catalog specs. I belive there is a difference in the input circuitry also, I recall that the B has a more capable input section than t

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Roy Phillips
Pete Thanks for the information. Regards Roy - Original Message - From: "Pete" To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620 Roy, The 5370s have a few quirks that you

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Chuck Harris
According to the 1986 catalog, the 5370B is capable of 6000 readings per sec in the fast binary mode. According to the 1983 catalog, the 5370A is capable of 6000 readings per sec in the fast binary mode. In 1992, they upped the spec to say: "up to 8000 readings per second" in the fast binary mod

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Chuck Harris
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message <54d2d91a9dd3422b80f4f02de65e9...@d400>, Didier Juges writes: I have two 5370A but no 5370B, so I cannot comment on practical differences, beyond the catalog specs. I belive there is a difference in the input circuitry also, I recall that the B has a more c

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Chuck Harris
There is an interesting application note on the differential linearity issue. Apparently the problem was found by a Tektronix engineer, and HP provided a correction to fix the problem in the 5370A. That correction, I believe, is available on Bama. -Chuck Harris Pete wrote: Roy, The 5370s have

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread John Miles
> As to the socket issue, my 5370A has been dead reliable. No problems at > anytime. > > I think your socket issue is unique to your unit, or perhaps the > series your > unit came from. I've heard of socket failures happening on at least one 5370A besides Didier's, but I don't think it's reached

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Magnus Danielson
Jim Palfreyman skrev: I have a 5370B and love it. It's big, and postage to Australia was as much as the unit itself, but what it can do - especially given its vintage - makes it a perfect unit for my rack! And the manual (plus people here) make it really great if there are ever any problems. D

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Magnus Danielson
Roy Phillips skrev: Jim I was interested to hear that you are very fond of your vintage Counter (HP5370B), and I have downloaded the manual from the Agilent website. I recently purchased an HP 5335A, again a vintage model, and I have yet to assess it completely - is the 5370B much superior ?

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Hej Magnus One issue is that the SR620 is still in production. Thus obtaining spare parts may be a little easier than for the HP5370A. Bruce Magnus Danielson wrote: > Roy Phillips skrev: >> Jim >> I was interested to hear that you are very fond of your vintage >> Counter (HP5370B), and I have do

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Jim Palfreyman
No I haven't. What does this mod do? 2009/5/20 Magnus Danielson > Jim Palfreyman skrev: > >> I have a 5370B and love it. >> >> It's big, and postage to Australia was as much as the unit itself, but >> what >> it can do - especially given its vintage - makes it a perfect unit for my >> rack! >> >

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi John, I know that socket problems in the 1970's could be a real bear, but most of them started very early in the life of the product. For instance, I had heard about smacking Apple I memory on the table to fix problems by the time they had been out for only a couple of years. Maybe my 5370A

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Magnus Danielson
Bruce Griffiths skrev: Hej Magnus One issue is that the SR620 is still in production. Thus obtaining spare parts may be a little easier than for the HP5370A. Also, most of the parts for a SR620 is stock parts and not very hard to come by. The oscillator-circuits in the 5370A/B is much harder

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-19 Thread Magnus Danielson
Jim Palfreyman skrev: No I haven't. What does this mod do? Disabling the 10 MHz presence detector that spews out wideband 5 MHz and lots of overtone noise on among other things the 10 MHz output. I did a very simple short which brings one of the transistors out of bias and thus disabling th

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620

2009-05-20 Thread Roy Phillips
Bruce/Magnus Thank you for your comments. Roy - Original Message - From: "Bruce Griffiths" To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:42 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B vs SR620 Hej Magnus One issue is tha