Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-21 Thread Rick Hambly \(W2GPS\)
conference. Rick W2GPS AMSAT LM2232 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 6:13 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-21 Thread GandalfG8
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 19/07/2007 14:58:59 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is a well known quirk/feature of Windows itself. There is a way of curing it (other than using a better OS) but I cant recall the

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-21 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 21/07/2007 18:45:43 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Your computer may be sensing the serial data stream and declaring it to be a mouse. This is a generic problem having nothing to do with Tac32 but it and the solution are in the CNS Clock II and Tac32 manual

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-21 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Bruce I've got it sorted now, for the time being at least:-) I'd love to use a better OS, have tried a few flavours of Linux for example after spending a long time

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-21 Thread M. Warner Losh
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dr Bruce Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : If one booted a FreeBSD machine with an active GPS timing receiver : connected to a serial port, the serial buffers would overflow. : This

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-21 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dr Bruce Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : If one booted a FreeBSD machine with an active GPS timing receiver : connected to a serial port, the serial buffers

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-19 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 19/07/2007 02:44:42 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My suggestion is that you pick up a free evaluation copy of Rick Hambly's TAC32 software at http://cnssys.com/cnsclock/Tac32Software.html . TAC32 knows all the quirks options that ever existed in a

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-19 Thread Brian Kirby
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the TAC32 documentation, you will read about Mouse data and GPS data ! Theres a command line switch to run that should resolve it. Brian N4FMN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-19 Thread Brian Kirby
In the TAC32 documentation, you will read about Mouse data and GPS data ! Theres a command line switch to run that should resolve it (NoSerialMice or something to that efect) Brian N4FMN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam:

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-19 Thread GandalfG8
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 19/07/2007 12:33:07 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the TAC32 documentation, you will read about Mouse data and GPS data ! Theres a command line switch to run that should resolve it. Brian

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-19 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 19/07/2007 02:44:42 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My suggestion is that you pick up a free

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-19 Thread Tom Van Baak
How big would the sawtooth be for an m12+? Warner The M12+ has a 3x smaller sawtooth; about ±16 ns (9 ns rms) vs. the VP sawtooth which is about ± 52 ns (31 ns rms). See: http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/m12/sawtooth.htm http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/vp/sawtooth.htm /tvb

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-19 Thread Randy Warner
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:13 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 19

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-18 Thread Randy Warner
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 5:39 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 17/07/2007 23:09:36 GMT

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-18 Thread Jason Rabel
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I put all the Oncore related files I have gathered up online a while back, they can be found at: http://www.rabel.org/archives/Motorola_Oncore/ Jason I think a couple of the denizens of this list also have copies of most of my

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-18 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 18/07/2007 19:13:28 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the B means PPS? One of those PDF files shows all the feaures of the models, and there are a couple VP models where there isn't any specification for PPS so I would guess that means it doesn't have

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-18 Thread GandalfG8
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 18/07/2007 19:25:04 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sigh. Nigel - the best thing for you to do at this point is to download an eval copy of TAC32 from Rick's website and let his

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-18 Thread GandalfG8
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 18/07/2007 19:25:04 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is largely unknown that basically any VP receiver is capable of operating as a standard positioning receiver, precise timer with TRAIM, or

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-18 Thread Randy Warner
, 2007 11:39 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 18/07/2007 19:25:04 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is largely unknown that basically any VP receiver is capable

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-18 Thread GandalfG8
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 18/07/2007 19:53:08 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, no. The receiver has to be reflashed in order to update firmware, but the receiver ID info is actually in EEPROM. There was an old

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-18 Thread Björn Gabrielsson
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, July 18, 2007 22:24, Jason Rabel said: update required some key. But I don't know if they would / could alter any of the optional settings. I paid Synergy $15 extra for enabling phase output for a few surplus VPs I bought

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-18 Thread Jason Rabel
Bjorn, Is there any software available (free / trial / pay) that makes use of the carrier phase data from the VP? If so, could you shoot me some URLs! Jason In some ways the VP which has optional phase outputs IS a higher-end receiver than the newer oncore receivers lacking that option. ;-)

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-18 Thread Magnus Danielson
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Björn_Gabrielsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:55:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-18 Thread Björn Gabrielsson
Jason, This translator should get you into rinex. http://www.helenav.nl/rinex.htm When there you have all post processing packages out there to work between base VP and rover VP, VP vs your local CORS, VP vs your other GPS, etc. If you find something more generic than DOS excecutable - let

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-18 Thread GandalfG8
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 18/07/2007 21:25:35 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wouldn't worry too much about not having TRAIM. As long as your GPS has a good view of the sky you should be alright. If you really need a

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-18 Thread Randy Warner
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bjorn, You are absolutely right. Everyone in the user industry screamed bloody murder when Moto decided to not support carrier phase in later receivers. The old VP B8121Z1116 receivers are still one of the best carrier phase

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-18 Thread Tom Clark, K3IO
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There were some useful items there that I hadn't seen before, in particular the VP firmware history. but now I'm totally confused:-) That firmware history refers to firmware version 8v4

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-18 Thread Tom Van Baak
The other thing I've wondered about is how did HP correct the but in the early sawtooth error back when SA was on? Brooke, Someone with a 'scope probe could tell for sure but my understanding is that they didn't correct for sawtooth in hardware or in software. One reason may be that early

[time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-17 Thread GandalfG8
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All I'm trying to set up a supposedly NOS GPS development kit, similar to the old Motorola evalution kit, with an Oncore VP mounted on an interface board fitted with a 5 volt regulator and MAX232 interface chip. Running

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore VP problem

2007-07-17 Thread GandalfG8
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 17/07/2007 23:09:36 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You should be able to restart the VP with the @@Cg command in the Additional Message Window in WinOncore12. The total command string is: