Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2013-04-13 Thread mehdi
hi dears i'm newer here. i have some questions about loran-c receiver.can you help me? i want to know how can i find third zero crossing in loran-c receiver? i find third zero cross by peterson 's method from this paper: Analysis of Noise and Cycle Selection in a Loran Receiver but due to

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2013-04-13 Thread Rob Kimberley
will be similar. Rob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of mehdi Sent: 13 April 2013 13:08 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver hi dears i'm newer here. i have some

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2013-04-13 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The concept you most commonly see is a curve fit approach. You know the structure of the waveform through several cycles. You can fit this model waveform to the observed data over a large number of points. As you fit more points, the impact of the noise is reduced. Bob On Apr 13, 2013, at

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2013-04-13 Thread paul swed
...@febo.com] On Behalf Of mehdi Sent: 13 April 2013 13:08 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver hi dears i'm newer here. i have some questions about loran-c receiver.can you help me? i want to know how can i find third zero crossing

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2013-04-13 Thread paul swed
that the 5000 will be similar. Rob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of mehdi Sent: 13 April 2013 13:08 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver hi dears i'm newer

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2013-04-13 Thread Tom Van Baak (lab)
See if this helps: http://www.leapsecond.com/museum/au2100f/scope.htm /tvb (iPhone4) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-04 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message CAAzRQfC=u8ngwob_u1fa0zrhlsxs8ewe+os+jny+jy6duqq...@mail.gmail.com, Andy Lokken writes: Maybe the '5000 finds a new home... or maybe I part it out It's still all a plus on this end. I think one very interesting question is how much similarity there is between a 2100 and the

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-04 Thread Magnus Danielson
Bill, On 03/04/2012 05:32 AM, Bill Hawkins wrote: Andy, I'm truly sorry this didn't go anywhere, in spite of Forster's attempt to hijack the thread. You got more replies from heavy hitters than I ever did. (Excuse me, Magnus, if you do not consider yourself as a heavy hitter.) Well, I think I

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-04 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Given the number of people who have popped up as PDP-8 junkies, I suspect there is a way to get the 5000 running. Bob On Mar 3, 2012, at 11:09 PM, Andy Lokken alok...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to all who replied. I think I'm in over my head with this one. There are far easier ways for me

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-04 Thread jmfranke
Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lokken Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 10:09 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver Thanks to all who replied

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-04 Thread Azelio Boriani
: Bill Hawkins b...@iaxs.net Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 11:32 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver Andy, I'm truly sorry this didn't go anywhere, in spite of Forster's

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-04 Thread Bob Camp
-- From: Bill Hawkins b...@iaxs.net Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 11:32 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver Andy, I'm truly sorry this didn't go

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-04 Thread Andy Lokken
A couple of guys have expressed interest in this unit, so I think it is spoken for. Hopefully the adoptive home will post up about their experience with this after they get it running. -Andy -- ___ Andy Lokken ___

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-04 Thread Andy Lokken
Hi Paul: It was your reports of the Great Lakes chain that got me interested in this. I live in St. Paul, Minnesota, so I am hopeful of hearing it here. I have a couple other LF receivers with which to try to hear Loran C, so I still have options. Obviously, before I invest much in this, I want

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-04 Thread paul swed
Well A couple of things. They are not the gov. They go home on the weekends. So do take a listen to 100KC during the week. I looked at the austron 5000 it was a loran station monitor. What a beasty it actually is. Though the nixies are nice. I guess my loran simulator would drive it. But can't

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-04 Thread Glen Hoag
In searching the archives of the International Loran Association http://www.loran.org, I note that Austron offered two versions of the 5000. There was the station monitor version that was used as part of the system to apply time corrections as well as a marine system, both controlled by a

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-04 Thread J. Forster
@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver Andy, I'm truly sorry this didn't go anywhere, in spite of Forster's attempt to hijack the thread. You got more replies from heavy hitters than I ever did. (Excuse me, Magnus, if you do not consider yourself

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-04 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Looks like the marine version was something ONI rented you on a per hour basis. I suspect that keeping one running at sea was a bit of a chore. Bob On Mar 4, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Glen Hoag h...@hiwaay.net wrote: In searching the archives of the International Loran Association

[time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Andy Lokken
Greetings: I think this is my first post to this reflector. I have been a subscriber for some time now. Thanks to everyone for sharing their knowledge. Recently, a member of this list gave me an Austron 5000 Loran C receiver. With the recent news about Loran C, I am interested to try to use this

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message CAAzRQfAhDyMexYqYPQXVbvuFwZ_tow2HCp9WYeS=dksrenw...@mail.gmail.com , Andy Lokken writes: Recently, a member of this list gave me an Austron 5000 Loran C receiver. With the recent news about Loran C, I am interested to try to use this device. But I have some questions: Is it possible

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread paul swed
That is indeed interesting because the only rcvr I knew that needed a pdp 8 was the older actual station monitoring units. I would strongly believe if you know what the 5000 wants these days its very reasonable to emulate the control system. That said in the US the only GRI I could monitor was the

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In case any of you have want to play with Loran-C, here is a modern DIY computer-based DIY receiver for time-purposes: http://phk.freebsd.dk/AducLoran/ Mouser has the aduc7026 board for EUR62/USD76. In addition to that you need a 42MHz clock (I use the TAPR PLL board) and a random

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 03/03/2012 05:14 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In messageCAAzRQfAhDyMexYqYPQXVbvuFwZ_tow2HCp9WYeS=dksrenw...@mail.gmail.com , Andy Lokken writes: Recently, a member of this list gave me an Austron 5000 Loran C receiver. With the recent news about Loran C, I am interested to try to use this

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Rob Kimberley
2012 15:57 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver Greetings: I think this is my first post to this reflector. I have been a subscriber for some time now. Thanks to everyone for sharing their knowledge. Recently, a member of this list gave me

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Bob Camp
etc). Can you send me a photo? Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lokken Sent: 03 March 2012 15:57 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 03/03/2012 06:47 PM, Rob Kimberley wrote: Hi, I used to work for Austron, but I don't remember a 5000. All their receivers were 2xxx series (2000C, 22100F etc). Can you send me a photo? http://www.loran.org/ILAArchive/ILA%20Journal%20Final%20Scans/1977-Journal.pdf Top of page 63 (page 65

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Andy Lokken
Hi again: Thanks for all of the replies so far. I took a few photos of the unit for Mr. Kimberely. They are a front view, a rear view and one of the label on the side. Not the greatest shots, but you can view them here:

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread J. Forster
...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lokken Sent: 03 March 2012 15:57 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver Greetings: I think this is my first post to this reflector. I have been a subscriber for some time now. Thanks to everyone for sharing

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 2033.12.6.201.127.1330803962.squir...@popaccts.quikus.com, J. Forster writes: Does anybody have any info on the 2100C receiver. I have one that somebody gave away, mistaking the listing for a 2100F. Speaking of 2100's: If anybody already have, or wouldn't mind reading out the EPROMS

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Stanley
Will do. Give me a few days. Stanley - Original Message - From: Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk To: j...@quikus.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Rob Kimberley
2012 19:44 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver Hi again: Thanks for all of the replies so far. I took a few photos of the unit for Mr. Kimberely. They are a front view, a rear view and one of the label

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Stanley
Will do. Give me a few days. Stanley Ok wasn't as hard to-do as I imagined, CPU boards come out the front without removing the receivers from the bottom of the stack. They are 2732A a set of three f0-f2, I have a Rev G and Rev 107 I don't know why they are different name scheme both

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message D1D2D82D39DD43F3A1D7AC5934BD6326@StanleyPC, Stanley writes: Ok wasn't as hard to-do as I imagined, CPU boards come out the front without removing the receivers from the bottom of the stack. They are 2732A a set of three f0-f2, I have a Rev G and Rev 107 I don't know why they are

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Azelio Boriani
Geez, I have read and I don't think it is possible to replicate the CALOC PDP-8/E software nor it is useful to use the Austron 5000 Loran receiver, my understanding is that it was used to control and steer the system. It seems they were in use until the year 2000! Maybe that using MATLAB it is

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Jim Lux
On 3/3/12 4:13 PM, Azelio Boriani wrote: Geez, I have read and I don't think it is possible to replicate the CALOC PDP-8/E software nor it is useful to use the Austron 5000 Loran receiver, my understanding is that it was used to control and steer the system. It seems they were in use until the

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Ahhh... The days of toggling the boot loader in with the front panel switches. So much fin. Bob On Mar 3, 2012, at 7:45 PM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 3/3/12 4:13 PM, Azelio Boriani wrote: Geez, I have read and I don't think it is possible to replicate the CALOC PDP-8/E

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Don Lewis
...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob Camp Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 6:55 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver Hi Ahhh... The days of toggling the boot loader in with the front panel switches. So much fin. Bob

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Bob Camp
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver Hi Ahhh... The days of toggling the boot loader in with the front panel switches. So much fin. Bob On Mar 3, 2012, at 7:45 PM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 3/3/12 4:13 PM, Azelio Boriani wrote: Geez, I

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread DaveH
and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver Hi Time to get out the paper tape for 4K Focal and do some code... Bob On Mar 3, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Don Lewis dlewis6...@austin.rr.com wrote: I still have a PDP/8 with 4k core memory

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Andy Lokken
Thanks to all who replied. I think I'm in over my head with this one. There are far easier ways for me to try to receive Loran C, and I have no shortage of projects. So... Forgive me if this is not allowed on this reflector... Free to a good home (after shipping): One Austron 5000 Loran C

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Bill Hawkins
-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lokken Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 10:09 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver Thanks to all who replied. I think I'm in over my

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Andy Lokken
: Saturday, March 03, 2012 10:09 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver Thanks to all who replied. I think I'm in over my head with this one. There are far easier ways for me to try to receive Loran C