Re: [time-nuts] precision frequency/time/amplitude reference

2017-10-10 Thread Bob kb8tq
HI > On Oct 9, 2017, at 8:49 PM, jimlux wrote: > > On 10/9/17 8:02 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: >> Hi >> Pick a couple of local broadcast stations and record them. That will give >> you a baseline >> for each of the parameters you are after in real time. They *will* drift. >> Past that, I’d go with a

Re: [time-nuts] precision frequency/time/amplitude reference

2017-10-09 Thread jimlux
On 10/9/17 8:02 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi Pick a couple of local broadcast stations and record them. That will give you a baseline for each of the parameters you are after in real time. They *will* drift. Past that, I’d go with a sweep of each node before installation. That will give you the fr

Re: [time-nuts] precision frequency/time/amplitude reference

2017-10-09 Thread jimlux
On 10/9/17 8:00 AM, Mattia Rizzi wrote: Hi, I did something similar when I had to deliver synchronization over IEEE 802.15.4-CSS (Chirp spread spectrum). If you have SDR on both ends (TX & RX), you can use complex chirp signals and then cross-correlation at RX. Just be sure that the multi-path is

Re: [time-nuts] precision frequency/time/amplitude reference

2017-10-09 Thread jimlux
On 10/9/17 9:58 AM, David Witten wrote: Jim, If I understand what you are attempting (I may well not), you might consider the approach taken here: https://github.com/tejeez/rtl_coherent that is where you have a common clock distributed to the RTLs "A single 28.8 MHz reference clock is distrib

Re: [time-nuts] precision frequency/time/amplitude reference

2017-10-09 Thread David Witten
Jim, If I understand what you are attempting (I may well not), you might consider the approach taken here: https://github.com/tejeez/rtl_coherent and here: https://github.com/tejeez/rtl_coherent/blob/master/hardware/simple/README.md or order a noise-source and antenna switches from here: http

Re: [time-nuts] precision frequency/time/amplitude reference

2017-10-09 Thread Mattia Rizzi
Hi, I did something similar when I had to deliver synchronization over IEEE 802.15.4-CSS (Chirp spread spectrum). If you have SDR on both ends (TX & RX), you can use complex chirp signals and then cross-correlation at RX. Just be sure that the multi-path is not killing you (i.e. the cross-correlati

Re: [time-nuts] precision frequency/time/amplitude reference

2017-10-09 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Pick a couple of local broadcast stations and record them. That will give you a baseline for each of the parameters you are after in real time. They *will* drift. Past that, I’d go with a sweep of each node before installation. That will give you the frequency response and (to some degree

[time-nuts] precision frequency/time/amplitude reference

2017-10-09 Thread jimlux
I'm trying to come up with a relatively simple scheme to calibrate an HF antenna array - I've got a bunch of RTL-SDRs operating as a distributed array spread over a few 10s of meters. The things I want to do are: a) determine the phase/time offset between stations relative to other nodes b) det