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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?
I'd love to find a Smiths analogue clock to m
On 7/9/2011 10:18 PM, Raj wrote:
I dont wear a watch since 25 years or more. Plenty of clocks around
and now will cell phone and other personal devices all have clocks.
Watch it. Those clocks on the cell phones are consistently slow compared
to a WWVB watch. The time clocks where I wo
I'd love to find a Smiths analogue clock to match the gauges in the dash of my
old British car!
On Jul 16, 2011, at 10:56, Michael Poulos wrote:
> On 7/10/2011 5:04 AM, Javier Herrero wrote:
>> My car has an interior look similar to this:
>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thum
On 7/10/2011 5:04 AM, Javier Herrero wrote:
My car has an interior look similar to this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c7/Jaguar_XKR_Convertible_interior.jpg/800px-Jaguar_XKR_Convertible_interior.jpg
Time ago, I pick a young engineer (quite digitally oriented, may I
say
On 7/10/2011 6:33 AM, Raj wrote:
To me when someone tells me a time of day the first thing I visualize is
the clock hands and not numbers. I suspect the present gen visualize
numbers. They must have trouble with 60 minutes in the hour.. a quarter
past six and such..
I'm 48 years old and prefer d
On 7/10/2011 4:10 PM, Hal Murray wrote:
omni...@gmail.com said:
Then there is this little number...
http://forums.watchnet.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=415170&rid=0
> From their web page:
The power reserve is 52 hours, and the watch is actually very accurate
at about plus or minus 4 seconds
Been reading the mail and I do use a watch. Not sure if thats good or bad.
But it is indeed amazing how well modern time pieces work.
A $5 Timex with large battery that will run 5 years is a reality.
How accurate is it? Good enough not to worry between time changes.
By the way I also have a number
There's a good writeup on accuracy on wikipedia-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COSC
includes a handy table comparing mechanical movement and quartz movement
requirements.
To be considered a chronometer, the daily rate must be within -4 to +6
secs/day. The stability of the rate over time is more
Hal,
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On 7/10/2011 at 10:12 PM Hal Murray wrote:
>>> 4 seconds per day? I'd expected better from a very expensive watch.
>>> Are belts nasty when it comes to keeping good time?
>
>> No, it shouldn't have nothing to do with the belts, as they're the same
a
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Sent: 11 July 2011 06:13
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?
>> 4 seconds pe
> This watch is not quartz, it is fully mechanical with a balance wheel.
What is the temperature profile of a mechanical balance wheel? That seems
like something at least one time-nut would have good data on.
Graphs of offset vs temperature for crystals are readily available. For the
typica
Hi Hal,
On 11 July 2011 17:12, Hal Murray wrote:
...
> The crystals on my PCs are ballpark of 1 PPM per C. I'd expect a watch
> crystal to be tuned to human temperature environments and be better than
> that. I guess I'll have to get setup to collect some data.
This watch is not quartz, it i
>> 4 seconds per day? I'd expected better from a very expensive watch.
>> Are belts nasty when it comes to keeping good time?
> No, it shouldn't have nothing to do with the belts, as they're the same as
> timing belts, or toothed belts, and would work the same as gear teeth. The
> accuracy will
Hal,
No, it shouldn't have nothing to do with the belts, as they're the same as
timing belts, or toothed belts, and would work the same as gear teeth. The
accuracy will come from the balance wheel arrangement, and with all the
jewels (bearings), one would think it would sure move free. However,
ke
omni...@gmail.com said:
> Then there is this little number...
> http://forums.watchnet.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=415170&rid=0
>From their web page:
The power reserve is 52 hours, and the watch is actually very accurate
at about plus or minus 4 seconds a day.
4 seconds per day? I'd expect
Curious concept... with ball bearings and cam belts... eeer...
transmission belts ;)
El 10/07/2011 17:20, William H. Fite escribió:
Then there is this little number...
http://forums.watchnet.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=415170&rid=0
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>> Sent: 10 July 2011 10:28 AM
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>>
>> You'd need one for both wrists and learn to look at the time on alternate
for
> most mortals.
> :-)
>
> Rob
>
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Sent: Sun, July 10, 2011 2:54:26 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?
I still wear my Tag Heuer F1 midsize from back in the 80's. Although
I'm on my second plastic bezel, the first wore so bad it eventually
dropped off, and I have been through c
AM
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?
You'd need one for both wrists and learn to look at the time on alternate
watches or you'll end up with lop sided upper arm muscle growth. Who needs
dumbbells w
To me when someone tells me a time of day the first thing I visualize is
the clock hands and not numbers. I suspect the present gen visualize
numbers. They must have trouble with 60 minutes in the hour.. a quarter
past six and such..
At 10-07-2011, you wrote:
>Apparently for those who gr
I got to tell ya Javier,
I am deeply troubled by this report.
BillWB6BNQ
Javier Herrero wrote:
> My car has an interior look similar to this:
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c7/Jaguar_XKR_Convertible_interior.jpg/800px-Jaguar_XKR_Convertible_interior.jpg
>
> Time ag
My car has an interior look similar to this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c7/Jaguar_XKR_Convertible_interior.jpg/800px-Jaguar_XKR_Convertible_interior.jpg
Time ago, I pick a young engineer (quite digitally oriented, may I say)
to go somewhere. He saw the three gauges in
I still wear my Tag Heuer F1 midsize from back in the 80's. Although
I'm on my second plastic bezel, the first wore so bad it eventually
dropped off, and I have been through countless straps, the sapphire
crystal is as good today as the first day I got it. They just don't
seem to scratch at all, l
You'd need one for both wrists and learn to look at the time on
alternate watches or you'll end up with lop sided upper arm muscle
growth. Who needs dumbbells when you can work out just by looking at
the time :)
I wonder what the average time for the novelty to wear out is on one of these.
Steve
I want one!!
Rob K
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Sent: 10 July 2011 6:47 AM
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Okay guys, I saw a very strange timepiece when I was out shopping. If it
wasn't $17k I'd consider it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PwJCzetTCI
Interesting concept, looks good. On a side note, earlier today a friend
gave me an Accutron 214 from 1965 that previously belonged to his father.
Coo
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 08:48:07AM +0530, Raj wrote:
> Analog generation *know* the time from the position of the
> clock hands. By the position of the hands you know how many minutes left
> to an appointment etc. IF you ask them the time then it will take a
> moment to convert it to words
I've not been to Beijing but the National Palace Museum in Taipei has some
remarkable mechanical clocks, including water clocks. My Significant Other
is Taiwanese and whenever I get smug there is nothing like a visit to the
NPM to remind me that the Chinese were crafting breathtaking objets d'art
I dont wear a watch since 25 years or more. Plenty of clocks around and
now will cell phone and other personal devices all have clocks.
Analog generation *know* the time from the position of the clock hands.
By the position of the hands you know how many minutes left to an appoin
In the late 60s I had an inexpensive wristwatch with a
cheap leather or plastic wristband. I did not want the
enhanced conductivity if a metal band when working
with vacuum tube circuits.
Where I worked the only clock visible had been rigged
to go backwards. But it did keep good time, which is
> Bravo, Rob. I thought I was the lone voice crying in the wilderness in
support of watches.
>My "beater" is an Omega Seamaster that goes everywhere and does everything
all the time. My others tend to sit in their rocker boxes and seldom get
worn.
This was a very interesting thread. I have wor
The only time I wear one is if I'm traveling, and I need to be certain
places at certain times. Outside of that, I've not worn one for... gad, has it
really been 25+ years?
My timepiece of choice is an old Casio G-Shock model on a Velcro band.
Very comfortable.
Happy tr
i know you didnt ... it was quite the surprise. But then "Elder Packing"
was not your modern company. Everyone from the janitor up had a full
pension. Mr. Elder sold out to a maga-corp. Rest of the story is text book.
-pete
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Chuck Harris wrote:
> Hi Pete,
>
> I wa
I fall into this category too. I used to wear an Avocet altimeter watch all
the time, but once the last of the three I had could no longer be fixed, I just
kind of gave up. I don't usually carry a cellphone either. I keep thinking I
should get a watch for those occations when I might actual
Hi Pete,
I wasn't implying that it was a cheapie... though most of the more expensive
watches are at least 21J... A solid gold case will bring the price up pdq!
I was just saying that a lot of companies are giving "gold" watches to any
employee that hangs on long enough to retire. The cost of
I too love wearing a wrist watch Since I am always working with machines,
I tend to scar my watches up quite a bit... therefor I tend to wear cheap
watches... my current favorite is a Russian automatic dive watch that I picked
up on ebay for $60.
I only wear automatic winding mechanical watch
> Rob K
>
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?
Haven't worn a watch in 40+ yea
I also hate wearing any kind of jewelry - watchbands and rings seem
to cut off circulation, even when sized right. A few years ago I
accidentally wrecked the nice Seiko that my wife gave me. Since then
I have used cheap no-brand watches attached to my 30 year old Speidel
Twistoflex band - the o
I thouth as well that it was just a cheapie, but when I got it I took
it to get it cleaned and to replace the crystal. My watch/clock guy
was quite surprised. It was not gold plated but 14ct gold, cheapies
where 10ct or plated.
I don't have the info with me but he told me it was not your usual
gift
Javier wrote:
As a matter of curiosity... Am I the only time nut that does not
wear a wrist watch?
Nope. And it's not because I get the time from a cell phone or PDA
-- I don't carry those, either.
I very occasionally (once or twice a year) wear one of my pocket
watches. Almost never a w
: "Russell Rezaian"
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:48 AM
To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement"
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?
While I do sometimes wear a wristwatch, I find I normally don't. I
usua
Actually, that still happens quite a lot. A nice looking, but not high
end gold plated watch can be had very cheaply these days. I get catalogs
addressed to my business that have engraved gold retirement watches anywhere
from $30 to thousands. It is mostly just symbolic... in *my* grandfather's
While I do sometimes wear a wristwatch, I find I
normally don't. I usually use a stand alone
clock of some sort, or the time display on my
phone.
As for Time Nut relevance, it's still true that
you can get much better accuracy and precision
for a given cost in a clock that most people
woul
I worked at one time for an employer who give 35-year retirees a Rolex.
That was about 20 years ago but I think they still do it.
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Pete Lancashire wrote:
> I normally don't. Use to but one day it stopped working and never got
> it repaired.
> But then I have 20+
Haven't worn a watch in 40+ years as they (and jewelry of any kind) were a
non-no working in a metrology lab and later around high voltages. I just got
out of the habit of wearing one and I never had a watch that, no matter how
well it kept time on the bench or bed stand, would not either notice
Guess I'm an oddball, I have my choice of about a dozen wrist bourn time pieces
from the dresser.
Hardly the best, but my favourite is a euro spec tag heurer chrono.
On Jul 8, 2011, at 11:37, Pete Lancashire wrote:
> I normally don't. Use to but one day it stopped working and never got
>
I normally don't. Use to but one day it stopped working and never got
it repaired.
But then I have 20+ clocks at home and a Nixie(R) clock on my desk at work.
The only one I wear now on special events is a retirement gift to my grandfather
when he retired in the the late 60's.
How may factory wor
I see we are twin souls. Exactly the same :)
Regards,
Javier
El 08/07/2011 17:19, John Green escribió:
I haven't worn a wristwatch in maybe 30 years. I generally use my cellphone
or whatever timepiece that's handy. Or, I just guess. I don't wear my
wedding ring either. Jewelry of any kind both
I haven't worn a wristwatch in maybe 30 years. I generally use my cellphone
or whatever timepiece that's handy. Or, I just guess. I don't wear my
wedding ring either. Jewelry of any kind bothers me.
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