[time-nuts] LeoNTP PPS output to PC DB9 input

2019-05-28 Thread Anthony Dunne
Hi Everyone I am hoping one of you may be able to help with a specific problem? Some time ago, I purchased the excellent LeoNTP time server available here:- https://store.uputronics.com/index.php?route=product/product=60_70_id=92 It serves network time via NTP over Ethernet primarily but it

Re: [time-nuts] imprecise but adequate time

2019-05-28 Thread Mike Cook
> Le 28 mai 2019 à 16:38, Eric Scace a écrit : > > Hi fellow time nuts — > > I’m looking for a sanity check or alternative suggestions for the problem > and tentative solution described below. You have a situation where the application in any one system is unaware of the validity of the

Re: [time-nuts] Updating the unit of,time: the second.

2019-05-28 Thread Mike Cook
> Le 27 mai 2019 à 11:13, Dave B via time-nuts a > écrit : > > Hi. > > This from the recent ShortWave Radiogram broadcast, may be of interest. > > ~ ~ ~ > > (Snipped stuff about other SI units undergoing a revamp...) > > Scientists now have their sights set on updating the unit of > time:

Re: [time-nuts] GPS 1PPS, phase lock vs frequency lock, design

2019-05-28 Thread life speed via time-nuts
On Sunday, May 26, 2019, 7:24:31 AM PDT, Attila Kinali wrote: As you state that you are familiar with PLL design, I guess your confusion comes from having a 1Hz signal and trying to use that for a "normal" phase detector. While this is possible and can be done, it leads imediatly to the

Re: [time-nuts] imprecise but adequate time

2019-05-28 Thread Tom Van Baak
Hi Eric, > 2. Date/time stamps in the data shall be rounded to the nearest EVEN second by the system instances That's a clever way to both mask accuracy & uncertainty and to avoid leap seconds. Still, it smells like a hack, unfit for the 21st century. But I feel your pain. BTW, this is

Re: [time-nuts] Truetime XL / XLi question

2019-05-28 Thread willhb
Here is the exact output from my XLi. There are extra lines for F18 and F72 but not F73. >F18 F18 BOOTLOADER 192-8000 SOFTWARE192-8001 FILE SYSTEM 192-8002V2.0 PROJ REV # 2.0 FPGA # 184-8000V64 >F72 F72 CLOCK PLL LOCKED CLOCK STATUS

Re: [time-nuts] imprecise but adequate time

2019-05-28 Thread paul swed
Something to think about. Leap seconds. But that said I suspect the reason for the reasonable time is that many publishers wouldn't have access to a solid time source like GPS or some other universal reference. Really agree with Mike on the litigation aspect and the need for accurate time. How do

Re: [time-nuts] imprecise but adequate time

2019-05-28 Thread K5ROE Mike
If the data collected by your system could potentially be used in litigation , I would reconsider your accuracy requirement, especially the OKness of simultaneous transactions. I assume that all nodes can write to the blockchain; how do you sanity check if one node's clock is wildly off?

[time-nuts] imprecise but adequate time

2019-05-28 Thread Eric Scace
Hi fellow time nuts — I’m looking for a sanity check or alternative suggestions for the problem and tentative solution described below. Thanks for your thoughts. — Eric Problem: In one of my day jobs, I am designing a global network of systems (using open-source software) that

Re: [time-nuts] Updating the unit of,time: the second.

2019-05-28 Thread jimlux
On 5/28/19 2:12 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: On Tue, 28 May 2019 03:06:12 +0100 Another way to look at it is, before you reach the point where the redefinition of the kg change becomes visible, other errors like buoyancy of air will introduce errors that are orders of magnitude largers

Re: [time-nuts] Network Time Puzzle

2019-05-28 Thread K5ROE Mike
I would broaden your experiment to try many different remote servers.    Maybe using different chunks of the global NTP pool (https://www.ntppool.org/en/use.html) It could be traffic shaping on your ISP , an ISP in the middle, or one on the remote end. It could be traffic prioritization

Re: [time-nuts] Updating the unit of,time: the second.

2019-05-28 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 28 May 2019 03:06:12 +0100 "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > I notice a lot of 1 kg weights on eBay, so perhaps the same will happen > with Cs clocks! This is rather unlikely. For one, Cs beam standards have a very limited life span. For an other I am pretty sure that the surge of kg weight