Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-14 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 15.05.20 um 01:25 schrieb John Ackermann N8UR: On 5/14/20 5:07 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote: No, the cheap board houses don’t check for this stuff. They just build and send it back. If there’s a gotcha, you get it on the board. I was pleasantly surprised last week when Seeed Fusion contacted me

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-14 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
On 5/14/20 5:07 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote: > No, the cheap board houses don’t check for this stuff. They just build and > send it > back. If there’s a gotcha, you get it on the board. I was pleasantly surprised last week when Seeed Fusion contacted me to point out a problem where two vias were too

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-14 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Well, a full list of all the rules we ran against would run about 10 pages. I think that’s getting pretty far off topic for TimeNuts. I also, quite frankly never bothered to memorize them all. A few examples of what one *might* do: 1) “Allow” a violation. Things like courtyard overlaps

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-14 Thread Hal Murray
kb...@n1k.org said: > Probably not a big deal for a basement project. It would have stopped things > dead if we tried to run it at work. We had at least 4 layers of rules > checking that ran before the board finally went out for fab ….. Could you give a few examples of the more obscure

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-14 Thread Graham / KE9H
Most of the PC board manufacturers run a rules check for your board against their process capability. I have had them catch some things from time to time that the design tool missed. For commercial business, I more rules checking is always better, but for hobby and personal purposes, I think the

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-14 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Going from “pro” layout tools to KiCad, the only big thing that seems to be missing is a “full feature” DRC (design rules check) process in KiCad. The tools I worked with in the past had much more fine grained rules checking features. Probably not a big deal for a basement project. It would

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-14 Thread Mike Ingle
Hi All, I will second Bob's comment on choosing a program with PCB - Schematic integration. I can heartily recommend Kicad. I own Altium designer, but work remotely for an American firm from Germany. The US office uses PADs. We have finally agreed on projects going forward to both use Kicad.

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-14 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi I would toss in: If you are starting from scratch, pick a program that allows you to easily enter schematics as well as PCB layouts. Take the time to learn both sides of the program. That will give you an automated check between the schematic and the layout….. It also gives you a document to

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-14 Thread ew via time-nuts
Thanks Mark for reminding me, spend 3 hours this morning reviewing designs to be released. Found a couple of problems. Also went back to look at the OCXO boards I released in 2018, found a problem on the board with no Amp, the SMA is not grounded. Easy to fix, but if some one wants new Gerber

[time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-13 Thread Mark Sims
One thing that I recommend is that after completing the layout is to: 1) step back and wait a few days 2) enjoy a few adult beverages while waiting 3) go back a re-check everything 4) send it out to the board house You'd be surprised how often simple, subtle, not so subtle

[time-nuts] OCXO Support Board - PCB Source

2020-05-13 Thread Bob Martin
It is nice to see PCBway mentioned. I've used PCBway for years. With over 30 designs, I've never been disappointed. Their best feature, aside from pricing, is the ease of getting quotes. They don't care about the number of holes in the board. Board dimensions, thickness and volume are the main

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-13 Thread Wes
I can remember "wiring" up some X-band test equipment with WR90 waveguide, flanges and a brazing torch. We "miniaturized" the missile hardware by using 1/4 height W/G. Circa 1966. Wes On 5/13/2020 9:12 AM, ew via time-nuts wrote: You give away your age, was there did a lot of it and off to

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-13 Thread Wes
AC0XU (Jim) I responded to your email address and it bounced.  I would be happy to get a board from you. Let me know how to proceed. Thanks, Wes ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-13 Thread ew via time-nuts
You give away your age, was there did a lot of it and off to the repro shop and than the board manufacturer. All local in Houston. Bert Kehren In a message dated 5/13/2020 10:39:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, w...@triconet.org writes: Thank you to all who have written, on and off list, with

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-13 Thread Wes
Thank you to all who have written, on and off list, with offers of boards and advice on how to make my own.  Much appreciated. I think I'm on to one that meets my fairly simple needs and uses through-hole components.  I have done SMT construction in the past but things have shrunk in size by

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-13 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 13.05.20 um 13:35 schrieb Bill Notfaded: I've been trying to find a base PCB design to use too. In the interim I bought some boards from Gerry Sweeney that sells them for HP5313x frequency counter OCXO upgrades and supports different footprints. Open source design is even better. OSHpark

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-13 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Some of the Chinese outfits flip that model around the other way. You get to use the parts they have in stock. Setup *appears* to be dirt cheap, as well as the basic parts costs. One of many examples: https://jlcpcb.com I haven’t used them for assembly, but the do

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-13 Thread jimlux
On 5/13/20 5:56 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi There are a number of free ( = there is no license fee ) pcb layout programs out there. One of the many is KiCad. It’s not that hard to use. It is very popular. There are a lot of YouTube videos and blogs detailing how to do this or that with it. Laying

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-13 Thread Tom Van Baak
Bert, I found them. You posted the Gerber files as file OCXO.pcb-1.zip on 5-Nov-2018 here: http://lists.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts_lists.febo.com/2018-November/094597.html http://lists.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts_lists.febo.com/2018-November/094598.html /tvb On 5/13/2020 5:34 AM, ew

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-13 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi There are a number of free ( = there is no license fee ) pcb layout programs out there. One of the many is KiCad. It’s not that hard to use. It is very popular. There are a lot of YouTube videos and blogs detailing how to do this or that with it. Laying out a board to mount an OCXO on is a

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-13 Thread Bill Notfaded
I've been trying to find a base PCB design to use too. In the interim I bought some boards from Gerry Sweeney that sells them for HP5313x frequency counter OCXO upgrades and supports different footprints. Open source design is even better. OSHpark is great. Please post it! Bill E. On Tue,

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-13 Thread Matthias Welwarsky
On Dienstag, 12. Mai 2020 20:53:25 CEST Gerhard Hoffmann wrote: > Ten boards did cost $5 at PCBway, DHL wanted $25 for transport. :-< > I can publish the Altium Designer project or the Gerber files when the > 1st ten are used up > and there has been somewhat more testing. The number of possible

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-12 Thread DM
12:52:06 PM Subject: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board Does anyone know of a ready made board that will allow me to mount and at the least, minimally support the operation of an MV89A oscillator. I have one which I've powered up deadbug style and would like to clean up the mess a little.

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-12 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi In this era of $5 for 10 boards from China, a lot of folks have laid out various boards. They aren’t “ready made” but they get past the dead bug stuff. Bob > On May 12, 2020, at 1:52 PM, Wes wrote: > > Does anyone know of a ready made board that will allow me to mount and at the > least,

[time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-12 Thread Wes
Does anyone know of a ready made board that will allow me to mount and at the least, minimally support the operation of an MV89A oscillator. I have one which I've powered up deadbug style and would like to clean up the mess a little. Thanks Wes N7WS

[time-nuts] OCXO Support board

2018-07-02 Thread Wes
In a moment of weakness and impulse, for no particular reason I bought a Morion MV80 on the auction site.  Now I'd like to power it up and am looking for an easy way to do that. So, rather than reinventing the wheel, I'm looking for something similar to this: