Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-11-05 Thread Joan Warmbold
Subject: Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad. To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Stephen, I do wish you would talk to me in your posts as opposed to talking 'about me,' in a fairly dismissive tone I might add. I think we all wish to maintain a high

Re:[tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-11-05 Thread Joan Warmbold
Ask me if I would introduce this article as well as my reflections on it again! You guys are have all made many thoughtful and valid reflections, really. But I just never intended to create such a tempest. As Ralph Kramden used to say, Me and my big mouth! Joan jwarm...@oakton.edu On 4

Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-11-05 Thread Serafin, John
(TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Conversation: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad. Subject: Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad. For example, Ainsworth study on the impact of how parents' respond to their crying babies relative to how

Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-11-04 Thread Joan Warmbold
Stephen, I do wish you would talk to me in your posts as opposed to talking 'about me,' in a fairly dismissive tone I might add. I think we all wish to maintain a high level of civility on TIPS, even between/among folks who have quite different opinions on an important topic. Relative to my

Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-11-04 Thread Michael Smith
Nancy wrote: Mentioning day care in a list of evills that include poverty and drug abuse suggests that the writer assumes it HAS to be bad. Actually, I don't --assume-- it has to be bad (daycare), that is at least partly an empirical question: Empirical as to its effects, moral as to whether it

Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-11-03 Thread Michael Smith
Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: Michael Smith tipsl...@gmail.com To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Mon, Nov 2, 2009 7:58 pm Subject: Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad. oops At the end of my last

Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-11-03 Thread Paul Brandon
Two basic issues: First, it's hard to talk about a cause when there's no observable effect. Second, we must assume no effect absence evidence of one. Two basic principles of scientific inference. So, while it is certainly possible that there is an effect, we must assume otherwise until we

Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-11-03 Thread drnanjo
Beach City College Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: Michael Smith tipsl...@gmail.com To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Mon, Nov 2, 2009 7:58 pm Subject: Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad. oops

RE: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-11-02 Thread Dennis Goff
[mailto:tipsl...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 7:34 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad. Actually, you will be glad to know that we already have the answer about kids and involved dads. Specifically

Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-11-02 Thread sblack
On 2 Nov 2009 at 10:47, Dennis Goff wrote: Nurture Shock is an interesting read. I am thinking about using it as a supplement in my Developmental Psychology course in the spring. Chapters are self-contained so could be assigned as unit readings. The topics were selected for their shock value,

Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-11-02 Thread David Hogberg
Huh! -- Forwarded message -- From: sbl...@ubishops.ca Date: Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad. To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu On 2 Nov 2009 at 10:47, Dennis Goff

Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-11-02 Thread Joan Warmbold
find someone to take the bait, uh I mean bet, but so far no luck. -Don. - Original Message - From: Michael Smith Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009 6:31 am Subject: Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad. To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) I

Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-11-02 Thread Drnanjo
- From: Michael Smith Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009 6:31 am Subject: Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad. To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) I think we have pretty well established that kids do fine when raised by two same-sex

Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-11-02 Thread Michael Smith
Hi Don. I previously said: Well, that sounds like a pretty safe bet. I doubt whether anyone can reliably determine anything about your typical adult's early life experiences by observing their current adult behavior. To which Don responded: Glad you agree with me that most typical childhood

Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-11-02 Thread Michael Smith
oops At the end of my last post I meant to say that I don't know the literature but it seems implausible to me that one can claim that there are no long lasting effects of divorce and day-care etc. As mentioned, the issue is complex and their are many intervening variables between the daycare

Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-11-02 Thread drnanjo
-Original Message- From: Michael Smith tipsl...@gmail.com To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Mon, Nov 2, 2009 7:58 pm Subject: Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad. oops At the end of my last post I meant to say that I

Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-11-01 Thread Michael Smith
I think we have pretty well established that kids do fine when raised by two same-sex parents If doing fine means they are alive and surviving then yes of course, and I don't think that doing fine can mean much more than that. I have a standing bet of $10,000 that no one can reliably determine

Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-11-01 Thread Don Allen
then they'd be scarred for life. I keep hoping that I'll find someone to take the bait, uh I mean bet, but so far no luck. -Don. - Original Message - From: Michael Smith Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009 6:31 am Subject: Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad

Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-11-01 Thread Michael Smith
no luck. -Don. - Original Message - From: Michael Smith Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009 6:31 am Subject: Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad. To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) I think we have pretty well established that kids do fine when

Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-11-01 Thread Paul Brandon
Subject: Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad. To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) I think we have pretty well established that kids do fine when raised by two same-sex parents If doing fine means they are alive and surviving then yes of course

Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-10-30 Thread Don Allen
Subject: Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad. To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) http://mensnewsdaily.com/sexandmetro/2009/10/29/this-is-your- brain-without-dad/ This study on the impact of life without Dad for degu pups was presentedat the Society

RE: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-10-30 Thread Helweg-Larsen, Marie
:26 pm Subject: Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad. To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) http://mensnewsdaily.com/sexandmetro/2009/10/29/this-is-your- brain-without-dad/ This study on the impact of life without Dad for degu pups was presentedat

RE: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-10-30 Thread Jim Clark
, October 30, 2009 10:41 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad. Hi Joan- Quite a stretch to go from degu pups to human infants. The inrer-species differences are profound. Just consider the vast differences

Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.

2009-10-29 Thread Joan Warmbold
http://mensnewsdaily.com/sexandmetro/2009/10/29/this-is-your-brain-without-dad/ This study on the impact of life without Dad for degu pups was presented at the Society for Neuroscience meeting in Chicago this month and recently published in the journal Neuroscience. Fascinating though, at least