Re: student question: Broca's & Wernicke's Areas

2005-02-09 Thread Rikikoenig
In a message dated 2/9/05 11:15:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A side question: a few years ago I read about research that suggestedthat there are some fundamental differences between ASL and "ordinary"languages, such that people who grow up speaking ASL exclus

RE: student question: Broca's & Wernicke's Areas

2005-02-09 Thread Frigo, Lenore
Marc Carter asked "A side question: .[snip] that people who grow up speaking ASL exclusively tend not to read at the usual (age, peer, etc.) level. ASL is far more spatial than spoken (or written) language, and something about that spatial character generates differences in the way language

RE: student question: Broca's & Wernicke's Areas

2005-02-09 Thread Miguel Roig
I have had that opportunity ... unfortunately. Over 25 years ago while in college, a Cuban friend who was already quite fluent in English either developed an aneurysm which eventually burst or had a stroke of some sort (I forget the details). Anyhow, he became aphasic and could only articulat

RE: student question: Broca's & Wernicke's Areas

2005-02-09 Thread DeVolder Carol L
Something I and my students find interesting is the rare case of aphasia in polyglots (people who are multilingual). I have gone back to some of the earlier writings on aphasia as cited in Hecaen and Albert (1976), and find it fascinating that someone who is multilingual may lose their "mother t

Re: student question: Broca's & Wernicke's Areas

2005-02-09 Thread Annette Taylor, Ph. D.
Yes, this fits with what I know; namely, that there is no type of language, other than just a compilation of haphazard pieces of language--the organizational structure of language is disrupted. This applies both to receptive and productive language. However, when there is a conduction deficit,

RE: student question: Broca's & Wernicke's Areas

2005-02-09 Thread Marc Carter
ation official said, "That's a fair inference." LA Times, 3 Feb 2005 -Original Message- From: Tom Allaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:10 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: Re: student question: Broca's & W

Re: student question: Broca's & Wernicke's Areas

2005-02-09 Thread Tom Allaway
    I thought it had been pretty well established that the key ingredient for real language was syntax.  ASL has it, and is a true language.  The symboling chimps appear not to have it (although there is still a minority who believe they do).  Pidgins don't have it, creoles do.  Bickerton suggest

RE: student question: Broca's & Wernicke's Areas

2005-02-09 Thread Rick Adams
Marc: And I might not be able to read or write or speak, but might be able to use symbols to communicate (I think here of chimps and other non-human primates). Rick: Wow! I didn't know politicians knew how to use symbols to communicate! -- Rick Adams. Capella University Grand Canyon University

RE: student question: Broca's & Wernicke's Areas

2005-02-09 Thread Marc Carter
ences Cc: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: RE: student question: Broca's & Wernicke's Areas Rick, What you are explaining is exactly what the students were saying. What do we define as language? This is where I became unclear as to what the damage actually meant. I couldn&#

RE: student question: Broca's & Wernicke's Areas

2005-02-09 Thread tarner
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RE: student question: Broca's & Wernicke's Areas

2005-02-09 Thread Rick Adams
l Message----- From: Tom Allaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 9:50 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: Re: student question: Broca's & Wernicke's Areas I think your student doesn't understand how central to language these

Re: student question: Broca's & Wernicke's Areas

2005-02-09 Thread Tom Allaway
I think your student doesn't understand how central to language these areas are. Someone with damage to Broca's area would not be making up their own language, because they haven't just lost their original language, they've lost the processing areas necessary for any language. Similarly, if s