On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Mike Scoles wrote:
> How did we get talking about ying-yangs? Is this related to the yin and
> yang described in the I-Ching?
>
> Is transmission of culture the same as bringing a cheat-sheet to an
> exam? Is applying a concept in another context the same as plagiarism?
>
At 12:12 PM 2/28/00 -0500, you wrote:
>What I am wondering is whether white American students have
>a better handle on this culture's nonverbal cues, and hence are better
>able to cheat in ways that American professors won't pick up on. Stated
>another way: do non-American students cheat in ways
How did we get talking about ying-yangs? Is this related to the yin and
yang described in the I-Ching?
Is transmission of culture the same as bringing a cheat-sheet to an
exam? Is applying a concept in another context the same as plagiarism?
Or do opponent-process theory, Jung's anima/animus, a
didn't Freud take some of his ideas from the Kaballa (sp)?
didn't Jung take some of his ideas (anima-animus) from the Chinese
(Ying-Yang)
didn't the Greeks took some of their ideas from the Egyptians?
Michael Sylvester
Daytona Beach,Florida
Here's another way to think about this: In over 10 years of teaching,
TA-ing etc. I have dealt with numerous instances of cheating, from passing
papers to the infamous "cheat sheet" imprinted on the inner bill of
baseball caps to recycling papers other students have written to I am
sure you se
I've been following this thread with interest and would like to offer the
following
material from my files:
>From Burns, S. R., Davis, S. F., Hoshino, J.& Miller, R. L. (1998):
ABSTRACT
228 Japanese students and 210 South African students completed a questionnaire to
examine factors associated
There is not enough evidence here to draw a conclusion. Assuming that there was
pretty good evidence of cheating in the four cases, we could get a hit rates for
Russians and non-Russians if we knew the numbers of these types of students in
class. Were there any false alarms? That is, were there
At 06:16 AM 2/26/2000 -0600, David Carter Davis wrote:
>Oh, yes, I know this is EXTREMELY un-PC of me, but these are the facts.
>I think a lot of you with the "now let's not jump to conclusions blah blah
>blah, small sample size blah blah" were reacting from a bit of PC
kneejerkdom.
{snip}
Title: Re: Cheating & Culture (addendum )
Oops - forgot to add a parenthetical explanation
of the circumstances for Bill Bradley's quote,
so here it is (with apologies to those who
wondered what left field that quote came from):
>>Bill Bradley's quote is particularly apt
Title: Re: Cheating & Culture
Interesting post, and I have to admit that the fact that the
cheaters were Russian surprised me. I have had about a
dozen Russian students, some good, some bad, but none
involved in cheating. I'm a pretty suspicious person by
nature - always look
I'd like to thank everyone for their input on my cheating problem...
The advice on how to handle cheaters was a good reminder, and my little
cheaters will not be sitting within whispering distance anymore...
I believe the explanation that these persons i.) are coming from a collectivist
culture
Don,
I think you have two different concerns here: what happens when you give a test
and whether members of a certain ethnic group may be more likely to cheat.
It appears from what you've presented that these students have cheated -- the
identical homework papers, swapping papers, talking during
Maybe I've been in front of the computer too long - and I'll apologise ahead of
time if this turns out to be a flame-
but Beth's reponse brings to mind the whole John/Joan - John Money thing.
Talk about getting ahead at all costs - and no consequences. If we disapproved
of
falsifying data, ex
Title: Re: Cheating & Culture
>>"Kenneth M. Steele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
As to "ethnic" concerns, most of my cheaters are WASPs. The
ethnic distribution of cheaters seems proportionate to the
student population.<<
I assume Ken means "whit
On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:40:10 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
Vincent Prohaska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It might be that these "ethnic" students are being recruited by your
> college from the same high school, where this was allowed to go on, or
> that they belong to the same student organi
I agree with Vincent on the limited sample issue. We all (or at those of us
who teach "methods") profess to our students about the importance of: 1)
being careful not to generalize too confidently upon information from a small
sample, AND 2) not generalizing (perhaps at all) about a particular
pop
On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Vincent Prohaska wrote:
>
> I'd be very reluctant to jump to the culture conclusion too quickly.
>
Yes. I'm willing to agree that, despite its political incorrectness,
the hypothesis can be entertained. But it would be very, very
difficult to establish it in the classroom
I'd be very reluctant to jump to the culture conclusion too quickly.
Although I have encountered a small number of immigrants from a few
countries who feel that in their home countries they already learned far
more than we are capable of teaching them and are simply sitting in our
classes to get
On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Donald Carter Davis wrote:
> The cheating students were all from a particular ethnic group, and every time
> I have had 2 or more students from this ethnic group in a class, I've had
> a problem with them cheating. (In one cases, they passed their test papers
> back and fort
Donald Carter Davis wrote:
> These students have turned identical homework papers, and after I noticed
> them talking to each other during our most recent quiz, I compared their
> papers and found several of the same bizzare wrong answers...a dead giveaway.
Don,
I think that this might qualify
The spring semester is well underway, and, unfortunately, I've had to face up
to the fact that I've got a few cheaters in one of this semester's classes.
These students have turned identical homework papers, and after I noticed
them talking to each other during our most recent quiz, I compared t
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