Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2017-01-02 Thread teor
> On 3 Jan 2017, at 17:21, Rana wrote: > > To recap, we are talking about > https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/707A9A3358E0D8653089AF32A097570A96400C > C6 > > Thanks but your explanation does not seem to apply here. The measured BW is > equal to the limit and has

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2017-01-02 Thread Rana
] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP > On 28 Dec 2016, at 02:50, Rana <ranaventu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Speaking of guards, could someone come with a theory pf what happened here? The IP is static, the relay exists for 18 days and has Stable flag sinc

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2017-01-02 Thread teor
> On 28 Dec 2016, at 02:50, Rana wrote: > > Speaking of guards, could someone come with a theory pf what happened here? > The IP is static, the relay exists for 18 days and has Stable flag since > maybe 2 weeks, the measured bandwidth -153 KB/s - exactly equals the >

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-27 Thread Rana
a Guard flag is awarded. In this case, no guard fag. Any ideas? From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of balbea16 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 5:05 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dyn

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-27 Thread balbea16
Hi There I evaluated some relays with newly assigned (red) guard flags. All of them had already the stable flag assigned. And (so far I could see) all of them had (almost) static IP addresses. In my case, this may be the reason why I don't get a guard flag. My ISP changes it every 24

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-23 Thread grarpamp
On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Rana wrote: > If the small relays are largely unused (eg if 10% of the relays carry 90% of > the Tor traffic - does anyone have an exact statistics on this?) and if, in > addition, there is no increased anonymity benefit in having a lot

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-23 Thread Rana
: Friday, December 23, 2016 6:06 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP I have followed this for some time with interest, because I've run 2 relays from "home" connections for over 2 years - at on point

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-23 Thread Gumby
rote: -Original Message- From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of David Serrano Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:36 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP On 2016-12-2

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-23 Thread Rana
@grarpamp >Please see and contribute to the following... >https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/HardwarePerformanceCompendium The Pi info there is indeed totally out of date. I opened an account on the wiki. However, after 10 (!) tries to pass the totally unnecessary captcha which

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-22 Thread grarpamp
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Rana wrote: > If there is such a wiki I will be happy to submit my reports, I am not aware > of one. Please see and contribute to the following... https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/HardwarePerformanceCompendium > Also,

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-22 Thread Rana
discrimination of relays with dynamic IP On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 4:59 AM, Rana <ranaventu...@gmail.com> wrote: > A 20 mbps Pi relay has been reported here, still under-utilized. All these reports of this or that made in piles of random email ... serves no one past the typical few day pa

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-22 Thread grarpamp
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 4:59 AM, Rana wrote: > A 20 mbps Pi relay has been reported here, still under-utilized. All these reports of this or that made in piles of random email ... serves no one past the typical few day participant convos. So please people... submit all

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-22 Thread Rana
-Original Message- From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of David Serrano Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:36 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP On 2016-12-22 19

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-22 Thread David Serrano
On 2016-12-22 19:24:25 (+0200), Rana wrote: > > 2. "Residential lines in particular ... hardware caves when too many > connections are open in parallel" - this appears to be plain incorrect. [...] > ith 1300 simultaneous connections. His statement is right. 1300 connections are not a lot. I

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-22 Thread Rana
@Sebastian, Thank you for the detailed presentation of your arguments against the use of residential relays. While many (probably most) of the points you made are convincing and, coming from a DirAuth operator, difficult for me to contest, I would like to refer to those of them that seem to be

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-22 Thread Sebastian Hahn
Hi there, I am one of the directory authority operators, so while I don't claim to know what the collective community wants, I am one of the people who are asked to make these decisions. > On 22 Dec 2016, at 10:25, Rana wrote: > > So my question to the community is as

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-22 Thread lage gu
pussy 2016年12月22日 17:59,"Rana" 写道: > @Andreas > ... > >> I realize there could be pros and contras. Among the contras there > could be (for example) many small relays overloading the dirauths. I would > like to hear more about the contras. > >A Pi running at its line

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-22 Thread Rana
@Andreas ... >> I realize there could be pros and contras. Among the contras there could be >> (for example) many small relays overloading the dirauths. I would like to >> hear more about the contras. >A Pi running at its line speed isn't exactly a small relay. Of course it isn't. A 20 mbps Pi

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-22 Thread Andreas Krey
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 11:25:11 +, Rana wrote: ... > I realize there could be pros and contras. Among the contras there could be > (for example) many small relays overloading the dirauths. I would like to > hear more about the contras. A Pi running at its line speed isn't exactly a small

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-22 Thread Rana
@Patrice: Yes both relays started with brand new identities and the one that is now clinically dead (nickname ZG0) has been wiped out and restarted with a new fingerprint AND a new IP address as I have a dynamic one and I rebooted my router to get a new one). Did not help, so obviously this

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-07 Thread diffusae
On 07.12.2016 01:36, Duncan Guthrie wrote: > if some flaw was exploited in the various nasty proprietary bits that > make up the Pi, much of the network might be compromised - due to large > similarities across the different models, this would affect considerable > numbers of devices. So using

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-07 Thread diffusae
; To: Duncan Guthrie > Cc: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP > > On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 00:36:15 + > Duncan Guthrie <dguth...@posteo.net> wrote: > >> My original figure may have been... s

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-07 Thread Tristan
You're seriously going to play the "be polite" card after this entire thread happened? I give up. Fuck this, unsubscribed. If you need me, I'll be hiding in my cold dark corner. On Dec 7, 2016 10:02 AM, "Ralph Seichter" wrote: On 07.12.16 15:44, Tristan wrote: >

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-07 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 07.12.16 15:44, Tristan wrote: > Stop it, both of you. This is not the place for a flame war. If this > were a forum, the topic would be locked. It is not a forum, it is not a flame war, and you'd do well to be a lot more polite before you try to take the moral high ground and presume to tell

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-07 Thread Tristan
ubject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP On 07.12.2016 10:56, Rana wrote: > Calling "rude" people who, to make a point, use a bit of obvious and > harmless humor, is rude. Your getting on other people's nerves must *obviously* be the fault of othe

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-07 Thread Rana
@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP On 07.12.2016 10:56, Rana wrote: > Calling "rude" people who, to make a point, use a bit of obvious and > harmless humor, is rude. Your getting on other people's nerves must *obviously* be th

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-07 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 07.12.2016 10:56, Rana wrote: > Calling "rude" people who, to make a point, use a bit of obvious and > harmless humor, is rude. Your getting on other people's nerves must *obviously* be the fault of other people. Welcome to Trump World. :-) -Ralph

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-07 Thread Rana
roject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP On 07/12/16 05:32, Rana wrote: > I can just imagine someone panting while dragging a sub-$35 old desktop > computer up the stairs after physically searching for it in a nearby > junkyard. A

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-07 Thread Duncan Guthrie
On 07/12/16 05:32, Rana wrote: I can just imagine someone panting while dragging a sub-$35 old desktop computer up the stairs after physically searching for it in a nearby junkyard. A considerable level of destitution and a commendable commitment to the cause of Tor would be required. This

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-06 Thread Rana
-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of Roman Mamedov Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 7:08 AM To: Duncan Guthrie Cc: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 00:36:15 +

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-06 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 00:36:15 + Duncan Guthrie wrote: > My original figure may have been... somewhat off. With different models > they may have updated the network hardware. They did not. All models with Ethernet use the same SMSC LAN9514 chip. > A more general point is

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-06 Thread Duncan Guthrie
On 06/12/16 21:10, SuperSluether wrote: I don't know the actual numbers for the Raspberry Pi 1, I was just quoting from Duncan: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2016-December/011182.html I was told this figure by a friend who tried networking "stuff" on a Pi. From personal

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-06 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 22:00:20 +0100 diffusae wrote: > Well, I can read and also now the translation from Bits to Bytes. > But I am not sure about your value of the maximum network capacity. > > That's the iperf3 measurement of a Raspberry Pi 1 Model B+: > > [ ID] Interval

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-06 Thread diffusae
16 11:16 AM, "Rana" <ranaventu...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:ranaventu...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org >>> <mailto:to

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-06 Thread SuperSluether
ject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP > I would like to hear about ONE Raspi Tor operator who was allowed by DirAuths (or bwauths or whatever) to come even near 1 mbit/s bandwidth utilization > let me tell:

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-06 Thread diffusae
On Behalf Of pa011 > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 1:24 AM > To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > <mailto:tor-relays@lists.torproject.org> > Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with > dynamic IP > > > > I would li

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-06 Thread Tristan
Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP > I would like to hear about ONE Raspi Tor operator who was allowed by DirAuths (or bwauths or whatever) to come even near 1 mbit/s bandwidth utilization > let me tell: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/AA44C4BE3C90DCAAC09

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-05 Thread pa011
> I would like to hear about ONE Raspi Tor operator who was allowed by DirAuths > (or bwauths or whatever) to come even near 1 mbit/s bandwidth utilization > let me tell: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/AA44C4BE3C90DCAAC09E5CD26150710AAA80D58B

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-05 Thread r1610091651
Hi all Just to add some perspective... I'm running a relay on dynamic ip. My ISP will usually not change my IP assignment as long as it's in use. The platform in use is not Rasberry Pi, but Odroid C2. Also an ARM, but a bit more powerful one. Kind regards On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 at 16:36 Rana

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-05 Thread Rana
-Original Message- >From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of >Duncan Guthrie > >Keep in mind also that the Raspberry Pi (at least the first one anyway) can >only push around 1MB/s tops. The ethernet port is basically held on by the >equivalent of a

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-05 Thread Rana
> >I think it would be interesting see as to whether allowing bridges to have >dynamic IPs (or even encouraging it) would make them harder to block, and >would make it really easy for people >to contribute to the network in this >small way? Or at least, having a mostly dynamic IP - some devices

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-05 Thread Tristan
Again, bits or bytes? If the original Raspberry Pi can push 1MByte, that's 8Mbits, so you could get 4Mbits both ways. On Dec 5, 2016 9:08 AM, "Duncan Guthrie" wrote: > On 04.12.2016 22:35, Tristan wrote: > >> Perhaps this IS in fact normal. I ran a Tor relay on a Raspberry

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-05 Thread Duncan Guthrie
On 04.12.2016 22:35, Tristan wrote: Perhaps this IS in fact normal. I ran a Tor relay on a Raspberry Pi for a while. My speed was about 1Mbps max, similar to your 1.5Mbps. I saw minimal traffic, and the consensus weight never went above 20. I'm not running a relay at home anymore because of the

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-05 Thread Kurt Besig
On 12/4/2016 7:39 AM, Rana wrote: >> For as little as $10.00 US there are VPS' with static ip's.. > > Attn: Kurt Besig > > Well I kind o' like my Raspberry Pi that cost me $40 including box and power > supply and SD card and door to door delivery, with far more horsepower and > memory than

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-05 Thread Pascal Terjan
:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] *On Behalf Of *ane...@tutanota.de *Sent:* Sunday, December 04, 2016 9:24 PM *To:* tor-relays@lists.torproject.org *Subject:* Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP In Germany, it's quite usual that you have a dynamic IP and unusu

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-05 Thread grarpamp
For efficiency upon yourself and others... Don't add the '$'. Use lower case for fingerprints with no spaces (ticketed). Use the same myfamily line including all your relays for all your relays, no point in trying to leave announcing relay out of list.

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread teor
s per user on your OS and distribution. Tim > -Original Message- > From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf > Of teor > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 11:42 PM > To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > Subject: Re: [tor-relays]

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Rana
, 2016 9:24 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP In Germany, it's quite usual that you have a dynamic IP and unusual that you have static IP. Not just a few relays are located in Germany. It's not just a question

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Rana
-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP > On 5 Dec. 2016, at 08:15, Rana <ranaventu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > My international connectivity is just fine, connection speed is stable at 1.5 > mbps and I have a

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread teor
elays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf > Of teor > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 11:34 PM > To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP > > >> On 5 Dec. 2016, at 08:11, Rana <ranaventu...@g

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Greg Moss
...@lists.torproject.org] On > Behalf Of teor > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 10:52 PM > To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with > dynamic IP > > >> On 5 Dec. 2016, at 02:39, Rana <ranaventu...@gmail.com&g

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Rana
-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of teor Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 11:34 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP > On 5 Dec. 2016, at 08:11, Rana <ranaventu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread teor
riginal Message- > From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf > Of teor > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 11:07 PM > To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP > >

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Tristan
Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP > On 5 Dec. 2016, at 02:39, Rana <ranaventu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> For as little as $10.00 US there are VPS' with static ip's.. > > Attn: Kurt Besig > > Well I kind o' like my Raspberry Pi that cost me

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread teor
f > Of teor > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 10:52 PM > To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP > > >> On 5 Dec. 2016, at 02:39, Rana <ranaventu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> For as

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 20:47:17 - "Alan" wrote: > Thanks for that, I've made changes to both torrc files. > I've added MyFamily with each others finger print like so: > MyFamily E856ABA2020AA9C483CC2D9B4C878D8D948B0887 You don't need to only list the other one(s) in

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Matt Traudt
The dollar sign is optional. Find ExcludeNodes option description at: https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-manual.html.en > A list of identity fingerprints, country codes, and address patterns of nodes to avoid when building a circuit. Country codes are 2-letter ISO3166 codes, and must be wrapped

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Rana
, 2016 10:52 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP > On 5 Dec. 2016, at 02:39, Rana <ranaventu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> For as little as $10.00 US there are VPS' with static ip's.. > > Attn: Kur

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Sec INT
No all good just add them as you are tor adds a $ if you dont its not an issue Cheers Mark B > On 4 Dec 2016, at 20:47, Alan wrote: > > Thanks for that, I've made changes to both torrc files. > I've added MyFamily with each others finger print like so: > MyFamily

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Alan
I've been trying to find the answer to $ prefix or not. I've just this second added it to both. Maybe without it assumes it's a nickname. > Good question some of mine are not but then I thought the fingerprint had > to be prefixed with a $ sign? I dont see any errors in the log when I use > $ or

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Rana
icy reject *:* # no exits allowed -Original Message- From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of Netgear Ready Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 10:44 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Sec INT
Good question some of mine are not but then I thought the fingerprint had to be prefixed with a $ sign? I dont see any errors in the log when I use $ or without a $ sign? Looking at Atlas the myfamily fingerprints seem to have a $ in front of them? But in man pages it just says 'fingerprint'

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread teor
> On 5 Dec. 2016, at 07:47, Alan wrote: > > Thanks for that, I've made changes to both torrc files. > I've added MyFamily with each others finger print like so: > MyFamily E856ABA2020AA9C483CC2D9B4C878D8D948B0887 > > Then sighup'd both relays through arm. > > Do you

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread teor
> On 5 Dec. 2016, at 07:44, Netgear Ready wrote: > > Hey, > > Im not sure if I'm entitled to post here, but i think my contribution > might be useful. I am running two relays on dynamic IPs which change > about very 24hours, my advertised bandwidth is around 700KB/s, >

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread teor
> On 5 Dec. 2016, at 06:16, Matt Traudt wrote: > > If you would like to see something change, it would be a good idea to go > to https://trac.torproject.org, create an account (or use the > cypherpunks one), and open a ticket stating facts such as > > - where you saw that the

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread teor
> On 5 Dec. 2016, at 02:39, Rana wrote: > >> For as little as $10.00 US there are VPS' with static ip's.. > > Attn: Kurt Besig > > Well I kind o' like my Raspberry Pi that cost me $40 including box and power > supply and SD card and door to door delivery, with far

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Alan
Thanks for that, I've made changes to both torrc files. I've added MyFamily with each others finger print like so: MyFamily E856ABA2020AA9C483CC2D9B4C878D8D948B0887 Then sighup'd both relays through arm. Do you know how long it takes Atlas to show the changes? Alan > Hi Alan, > > Family

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Netgear Ready
Hey, Im not sure if I'm entitled to post here, but i think my contribution might be useful. I am running two relays on dynamic IPs which change about very 24hours, my advertised bandwidth is around 700KB/s, Actually used are around 150KB/s which gives about 20% of the advertised bandwidth. This

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Sec INT
Hi Alan If you have more than one relay you add the fingerprint of any other relay you run to your torrc file - if say I ran 10 relays and exits there may be a chance that you would route through just my servers thus you would not be anonymous as I could follow you through from entry to exit.

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Diarmaid McManus
Hi Alan, Family indicates they're all operated by the same person. as you run both TheCosmos and MilkyWay, they are in the same family. Please declare so in the .torrc. Thanks! On 4 Dec 2016 8:07 PM, "Alan" wrote: In the UK it depends what ISP your on. Virgin Media

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Alan
In the UK it depends what ISP your on. Virgin Media gives out static ip's as far as i know. BT (what i'm using) is dynamic, the ip changes every time the router reboots. It reboots when it detects a fault which is normally between 2-4 weeks on average. These are my relays: TheCosmos (running on

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Sebastian Niehaus
Am 04.12.2016 um 19:46 schrieb Rana: > Paul, you may be a very, very smart dude who needs no clarifications and I > may be a passive aggressive liberal fascist but you are totally wrong - I > have NO idea what "submit a patch" means https://lmgtfy.com/?q=submit+a+patch! signature.asc

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 04.12.16 19:50, Rana wrote: > Since when is there a requirement for a relay operator to have > "programming skills"? Who said there is? There is, however, an incentive (I'd even call it a requirement) to be polite when posting on a public mailing list. An accusatory or hostile tone is

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Sebastian Niehaus
Am 04.12.2016 um 20:24 schrieb ane...@tutanota.de: > In Germany, it's quite usual that you have a dynamic IP and unusual that > you have static IP. Not just a few relays are located in Germany. It's > not just a question of frustration of owners of dynamic IP relay, but > also a matter of

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Sebastian Niehaus
Am 04.12.2016 um 19:50 schrieb Rana: > Since when is there a requirement for a relay operator to have "programming > skills"? This requirement does not exist. But there if you want make tor behave differently than it does, programming skills are welcome (but not necessary). > [tor] should

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Matt Traudt
sume capability of >> being one. I can only report my findings as a relay operator. Which I have >> already done here, in full detail. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On >> Behalf Of Sebastian Nieh

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Tristan
alph Seichter Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 8:40 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP On 04.12.16 17:54, Rana wrote: > In short, if Tor Project does not want relays with dynamic IP, it > should say so

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Rana
ubject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP On 04.12.16 17:54, Rana wrote: > In short, if Tor Project does not want relays with dynamic IP, it > should say so and I would stop wasting my time. What's with the entitlement issues? You are free to contr

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread George
On 12/04/16 13:39, Ralph Seichter wrote: > On 04.12.16 17:54, Rana wrote: > >> In short, if Tor Project does not want relays with dynamic IP, it >> should say so and I would stop wasting my time. > > What's with the entitlement issues? You are free to contribute to the > Tor project, but if you

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread pa011
--- > From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf > Of Sebastian Niehaus > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 7:05 PM > To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP > > Am 04.12.2016 um 17:5

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Rana
mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of Sebastian Niehaus Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 7:05 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP Am 04.12.2016 um 17:54 schrieb Rana: > In short, if Tor

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Sebastian Niehaus
Am 04.12.2016 um 17:54 schrieb Rana: > In short, if Tor Project does not want relays with dynamic IP, it > should say so and I would stop wasting my time. Otherwise, Tor > should fix what's broken. Please submit a patch. Thanks. Crying about what tor shold do to please you seems not very

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Rana
-Original Message- From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of Matt Traudt Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 6:20 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP On 12/04/2016 10:39

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Rana
there and this something is not my relay. -Original Message- From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of Ralph Seichter Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 6:15 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Matt Traudt
On 12/04/2016 10:39 AM, Rana wrote: >> For as little as $10.00 US there are VPS' with static ip's.. > > Attn: Kurt Besig > > Well I kind o' like my Raspberry Pi that cost me $40 including box and power > supply and SD card and door to door delivery, with far more horsepower and > memory than

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 04.12.16 16:39, Rana wrote: > I can think of many an Iranian or Turkish or Chinese or Russian > dissident who could use 1.5 mbps bandwidth to communicate with the > free world. So just leave your relay running, and when other relays with better connectivity and a higher consensus rate are

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Rana
>For as little as $10.00 US there are VPS' with static ip's.. Attn: Kurt Besig Well I kind o' like my Raspberry Pi that cost me $40 including box and power supply and SD card and door to door delivery, with far more horsepower and memory than needed for running Tor relay, and my free and

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Kurt Besig
On 12/4/2016 1:03 AM, teor wrote: > >> On 4 Dec. 2016, at 01:06, Rana wrote: >> >> I have been running a relay with dynamic IP for a month now and quite >> obviously my relay is severely punished for having a dynamic IP. The IP may >> change once in several days

Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread teor
> On 4 Dec. 2016, at 01:06, Rana wrote: > > I have been running a relay with dynamic IP for a month now and quite > obviously my relay is severely punished for having a dynamic IP. The IP may > change once in several days (currently running over a week with the same IP

[tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

2016-12-04 Thread Rana
I have been running a relay with dynamic IP for a month now and quite obviously my relay is severely punished for having a dynamic IP. The IP may change once in several days (currently running over a week with the same IP and I just got my Stable flag back again, about 3 weeks after losing it).