Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-08 Thread Mattia
Yes that story is different from the other I read. Still, so far it's just a story. I don't know who "River" is. Real? Trustworthy? Biased? No idea, nor does anyone else, since he/she's anonymous. Surely, based on this, trusted media are already labeling a person as a rapist. On Wed, Jun 8, 2016

Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-08 Thread fatal
Hello, I didn't want to contribute to this topic, but Mattia really upset me. On 07.06.2016 22:44, Mattia wrote: > Was this FBI? Are these accusations real? (I have not seen any accusation > of RAPE, which is profoundly different than having a disturbing behaviour, > although many titles use

Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-07 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Jun 7, 2016 6:38 PM, "Mattia" wrote: >> It was not addressed to you but to the thread in general, sorry if I've misquoted. Oh, I can't tell you how relieved I am feeling now! :) I really think FBI is pretty disgusting, sorry. -- tor-talk mailing list -

Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-07 Thread Mattia
It was not addressed to you but to the thread in general, sorry if I've misquoted. On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:27 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > Err... It was pretty embarrassing and strange... :-/ > > Sorry for asking, Mattia... Do you know that I hate FBI with all my

Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-07 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
Err... It was pretty embarrassing and strange... :-/ Sorry for asking, Mattia... Do you know that I hate FBI with all my forces or not? O.o Please, you can say everything about me, but do *NOT* say that I support FBI in any sense. It is really, really offensive for me. I hate governments,

Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-07 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Jun 7, 2016 5:09 PM, "df." wrote: > > Cecilia Tanaka: > > > I received some cruel messages in different accounts. I will stalk my stalkers later, don't worry. It is not about revenge, just "educational purposes", I swear! :) > > I am very sad to hear that Cecilia. Let

Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-07 Thread Mattia
Anarchists, you say. Anarchy shall be possible when people are tough enough to respond to violence, and kind enough not to make any violence that can't be defended. What these "anarchists" are doing is to not be tough enough to face their actions, and being so violent that the offended person

Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-07 Thread df.
Cecilia Tanaka: > I received some cruel messages in different accounts. I will stalk > my stalkers later, don't worry. It is not about revenge, just > "educational purposes", I swear! :) I am very sad to hear that Cecilia. Let "educational purposes" be karma. > > Now I am more worried

Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-07 Thread Lara
Cecilia Tanaka: > You are a good person and it is the reason why - sorry! - > sometimes, I ask for you don't be so aggressive in your messages. > You are not an agressive person and - sorry again! - it always > seems strange for me. :P Probably not all, but most email clients and providers do

Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-07 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
I know you are being sincere, my dear Cari, and I thank you with open heart. You are a good person and it is the reason why - sorry! - sometimes, I ask for you don't be so aggressive in your messages. You are not an agressive person and - sorry again! - it always seems strange for me. :P

Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-07 Thread Cari Machet
Lara let others have their process please I am so sorry for your struggle cesilia may you shift into better light - happy times for you i wish On Jun 7, 2016 8:57 PM, "Lara" wrote: > Cecilia Tanaka: > > Cari, I was raped twice. Different guys, different

Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-07 Thread Lara
Cecilia Tanaka: > Cari, I was raped twice. Different guys, different countries, several > years between an event and other. Guys, all of you, not just Cecilia, please let it die. It is one thing to point the fallacies into the discourse and a totally different thing to play this game of apparent

Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-07 Thread Not Friendly
On 2016-06-07 09:51, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: Cari, I was raped twice. Different guys, different countries, several years between an event and other. I am a small cute girl, even acting like an old grumpy lady. Both were much bigger than me. I have some sad scars. One of them burned my body

Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-07 Thread ja . talk
This is what an alleged serial rapist looks like: https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2007/10/06/img_5561.jpg http://www.wired.com/2007/10/so-who-wants-to/ Some of Jacob Appelbaum's alleged victims have shared their stories on http://jacobappelbaum.net Everyone is innocent

Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-07 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
Cari, I was raped twice. Different guys, different countries, several years between an event and other. I am a small cute girl, even acting like an old grumpy lady. Both were much bigger than me. I have some sad scars. One of them burned my body with cigarretes. I was a teenager. My tattoos

Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-07 Thread Cari Machet
all this shit talk on here is like why people dont come forward when raped there was a suspension after tor received info about harassment before (hint: that matters) and as i said the organization was not dealing with this in any concrete way as they are now setting up protocol On Tue, Jun 7,

Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-07 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Jun 7, 2016 9:14 AM, "ja.talk" wrote: > > This is what an alleged serial rapist looks like: > > https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2007/10/06/img_5561.jpg > http://www.wired.com/2007/10/so-who-wants-to/ Please, you can do better than this. This old

Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-07 Thread Cari Machet
not friendly cant read and doesnt know who andy greenberg is? On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:41 AM, Not Friendly wrote: > It's really bad now that the media took notice. This whole thing started > as a small memo on a mailing list. And now it blows into some big media > story.

Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-06 Thread juan
On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 03:09:14 +0300 ja.talk wrote: > Appelbaum told Shepard in a bar in > front of another colleague that he was going to have sex with her, > using a misogynistic phrase. Wow! a 'misogynistic' phrase. That is no doubt a terrible crime

Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-06 Thread juan
On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 02:15:45 +0300 ja.talk wrote: > His statement is carefully worded, and so I did my best to decipher > it here. > > "In the past few days, a calculated and targeted attack has been > launched to spread vicious and spurious allegations against me." >

Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-06 Thread ja . talk
https://www.wired.com/2016/06/tor-developer-jacob-appelbaum-resigns-amid-sex-abuse-claims/ Andy Greenberg Tor Developer Jacob Appelbaum Resigns Amid Sex Abuse Claims Jacob Appelbaum has courted controversy throughout his career as a privacy and transparency activist, picking fights with

Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-06 Thread ja . talk
https://lexgill.com/2016/06/06/three-hundred-and-twenty-four/ Lex Gill Hard to look away from Twitter the past few days, because I’ve watched this happen with half a dozen different activist men in recent years and it’s always the same story. And so, not specifically about the situation at

[tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-06 Thread ja . talk
https://medium.com/@frabyn/decoding-jake-appelbaum-9fa75d060310 Franklin Bynum I am a volunteer in the Tor community and watched with great interest as allegations of sexual assault against Jacob Appelbaum surfaced last week. His statement is carefully worded, and so I did my best to decipher

Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

2016-06-06 Thread Not Friendly
It's really bad now that the media took notice. This whole thing started as a small memo on a mailing list. And now it blows into some big media story. Jacob never had a chance to explain before the media started writing as many articles as possible. The writers of this article didn't even