Problem solved. Mostly.
I managed to browbeat NAD into allowing me to update the firmware
myself, and everything's working okay now.
I still get the openings of albums clipped off as when the player is
re-awoken it seems to not be putting out a signal. 44.1k is maintained
for a few seconds
Ladyfingers;647124 Wrote:
An AVS forumite says that the problem is that the Squeezebox S/PDIF
output lacks clock frequency synchronisation.
I don't know if this can be remedied with a plugin, or if it's possible
to buy an S/PDIF repeater that somehow adds sync.
Any ideas?
I read that
Phil Leigh;647206 Wrote:
I read that thread on the official NAD forum - it's nonsense (sorry).
The Touch does of course have an internal clock (two of them in fact!)
and it is the NAD that is supposed to recover the clock from spdif...
The fault lies with the NAD - it would appear to be
Phil Leigh;646805 Wrote:
Does the NAD lose lock if you pause the DVD player?
Lock is maintained during pause (for about 3 seconds or so) and not
lost during skips. Any interruption in the Squeezebox's playback
results in immediate loss of lock.
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Ladyfingers
Ladyfingers;646204 Wrote:
I've tried S/PDIF coaxial and TOSLink, and I can see the NAD losing its
lock of the signal (the 44.1k appears and disappears between tracks.
I know this is avoidable by use of a silent stream output as opposed
to a simple signal null iduring/i silence. Guess I'll
Phil Leigh;646519 Wrote:
The problem may lie in the rips. I haven't used EAC in a while (having
migrated to dbPoweramp) - but isn't there any option to handle digital
silence at end/beginning of tracks? If EAC is stripping silence that
could cause your problem...
Nope, but not a bad guess.
Ladyfingers;646522 Wrote:
Nope, but not a bad guess. I've set it to make properly lossless rips.
From what I understand from reading similar problems on the board, even
if there is a null value, the Squeezebox is or should be sending out
digital silence and maintaining a lock. But my NAD is
Phil Leigh;646563 Wrote:
So under EAC Options - Extraction - do you have delete leading and
trailing silent blocks checked or not?
The SB doesn't understand digital silence. When playing it sends the
PCM stream (which may have values in it that you can think of as all
zeroes or silence).
Ladyfingers;646577 Wrote:
Unchecked.
The NAD loses lock during pause, stop and no lock occurs on power up
until a track plays, and the opening moment is nearly always trimmed.
Ah - in that case the NAD is indeed behaving oddly... it is not holding
lock during digital silence which is
Phil Leigh;646608 Wrote:
Ah - in that case the NAD is indeed behaving oddly... it is not holding
lock during digital silence which is naughty.
Seems that way. I've let NAD know and I've posted at AVS Forum.
Bloody shame if I can't fix it, as the NAD does SOUND excellent.
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Ladyfingers
Ladyfingers;646577 Wrote:
Unchecked.
The NAD loses lock during pause, stop and no lock occurs on power up
until a track plays, and the opening moment is nearly always trimmed.
I have exactly the same problem with my CA Azur 540R using both coax
and Toslink from the touch. Pausing breaks
Percival Sweetwater;646643 Wrote:
I have exactly the same problem with my CA Azur 540R using both coax and
Toslink from the touch. Pausing breaks the stream as well. Very
annoying. Analogue, of course, is fine.
The weird thing is that a DVD player playing a CD doesn't cause the
same
Try using the analogue output. Gapless playback should be perfect.
IF analogue works fine, the problem lies with the NAD.
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Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1
Phil Leigh;646148 Wrote:
Try using the analogue output. Gapless playback should be perfect.
IF analogue works fine, the problem lies with the NAD.
Done, and flawless. It's the NAD. Strange that it doesn't happen with
CD over S/PDIF, though. I'm going to try the TOSLink now to see if it
I've tried S/PDIF coaxial and TOSLink, and I can see the NAD losing its
lock of the signal (the 44.1k appears and disappears between tracks.
I know this is avoidable by use of a silent stream output as opposed
to a simple signal null iduring/i silence. Guess I'll have to find
a plugin.
Thanks
If you go to the 'Audio' settings tab for the Touch on the Web GUI you
will see a setting called Audio Startup Time. Try setting it to 0.25
or 0.5 and see if that helps.
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slackhead
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slackhead;645839 Wrote:
If you go to the 'Audio' settings tab for the Touch on the Web GUI you
will see a setting called Audio Startup Time. Try setting it to 0.25
or 0.5 and see if that helps.
He is using the Touch internal server, so there is no WebUI, right ?
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andynormancx
Yes, it
andynormancx;645855 Wrote:
He is using the Touch internal server, so there is no WebUI, right ?
This was my first question. I don't know if the changes made to the
WebUI are somehow saved onto the Touch and applied to the USB drive.
Is it possible to safely export and paste a .prefs file into
Ladyfingers;645857 Wrote:
This was my first question. I don't know if the changes made to the
WebUI are somehow saved onto the Touch and applied to the USB drive.
They are not.
Ladyfingers;645857 Wrote:
Is it possible to safely export and paste a .prefs file into the USB
HDD's
andynormancx;645886 Wrote:
They are not.
I don't think so, I could be wrong though.
Blaargh.
I guess it's time for a NAS then.
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Ladyfingers
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So it is working with analogue output but not digital ?
Wich fw version ?
is this happening with normal CD rips or is it hirez 24/96 files ?
Have you tried another dac or avr ?
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Mnyb
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS
I have a collection of about 450 albums in EAC-ripped Uberstandard
file-per-track FLAC on a Western Digital Elements 1TB mains-powered USB
drive (NTFS) plugged directly into my Squeezebox Touch, which is plugged
into a NAD T747 AVR using coaxial S/PDIF.
All album art is 600x600 and stored as
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