[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble, take two.

2008-10-06 Thread Jani Tiainen
Jani Tiainen kirjoitti: I'm trying to keep Trac in our corporation environment but day after day it's coming more difficult due feature needs from users. I've tried several solutions but I haven't found anything even nearly working and what's worse someone found Redmine and it's working

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-02 Thread Gary Oberbrunner
Noah Kantrowitz wrote: Well work that idea out in more detail. How do you share things, and how do you not share things. Things like plugins probably have to be global just as an implementation detail, but what about other stuff. User preferences should be shared between projects? Etc etc.

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-02 Thread Jeff Hammel
There are plugins for much of this. I'm only to speak to a few specific issues as most of these have been addressed by others in this thread: On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 08:51:25AM +0300, Jani Tiainen wrote: snip/ Trouble #3: Multiproject/multirepository support. We have few projects that are

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Erik Bray
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:51 AM, Jani Tiainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to keep Trac in our corporation environment but day after day it's coming more difficult due feature needs from users. I've tried several solutions but I haven't found anything even nearly working and what's

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Robert C Corsaro
Erik Bray wrote: On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:51 AM, Jani Tiainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to keep Trac in our corporation environment but day after day it's coming more difficult due feature needs from users. I've tried several solutions but I haven't found anything even nearly

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread rupert thurner
On Oct 1, 4:25 pm, Robert C Corsaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erik Bray wrote: On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:51 AM, Jani Tiainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to keep Trac in our corporation environment but day after day it's coming more difficult due feature needs from users. I've tried

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Jani Tiainen
Erik Bray kirjoitti: On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:51 AM, Jani Tiainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to keep Trac in our corporation environment but day after day it's coming more difficult due feature needs from users. I've tried several solutions but I haven't found anything even nearly

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Leho kraav
Whatsup Jani Feel like making a cooperative effort on patching on the issues that you touched? I'm also thinking about more thorough access control implementation among other things. On Oct 1, 8:51 am, Jani Tiainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trouble #1: Partially open environment. Recently

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Jani Tiainen
Gary Oberbrunner kirjoitti: Jani Tiainen wrote: I've played with Redmine a bit and it works very well with subproject things, simple cross referencing (same as MasterTicketPlugin) and it's very nice issue tracking system. But rest of Redmine is crap. And it's ruby thingy which is ugly

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Gary Oberbrunner
Noah Kantrowitz wrote: ... So, in summary, #5 is the only real issue on this list and that has been on our roadmap forever. Everything else is just a failure to either read the documentation or to find the right plugin. Well, to be fair I think #3, if interpreted as subproject support, has

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 13:00:20 Jani Tiainen wrote: Reporter - Person who reported ticket (usually customer). Since we get reports by call/email this is more like free textfield. Manager - Person who is responsible in ticket general. Usually project manager. Assignee - Person who

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Noah Kantrowitz
-Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Oberbrunner Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 11:18 AM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: Trac in trouble. Noah Kantrowitz wrote: ... So, in summary, #5

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Garrett McGrath
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jani Tiainen Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:14 AM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: Trac in trouble. Erik Bray kirjoitti: On Wed, Oct 1, 2008

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread yoheeb
On Oct 1, 1:28 pm, Dimitri Maziuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 01 October 2008 13:00:20 Jani Tiainen wrote: Reporter - Person who reported ticket (usually customer). Since we get reports by call/email this is more like free textfield. Manager - Person who is responsible in

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Gary Oberbrunner
Noah Kantrowitz wrote: I have also explained many times on this list why we have put off multiple project support (including subprojects), but just for kicks: People are very quick to ask for multiple project support, citing tools like GForge or Redmine that can do it so it must be easy.

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Noah Kantrowitz
-Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Oberbrunner Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 12:50 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: Trac in trouble. Noah Kantrowitz wrote: I have also explained many times

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Gary Oberbrunner
Noah Kantrowitz wrote: And, as many people have noted in this thread, redmine is generally quite inflexible. There is always a downside to everything, adding more code is a higher maintenance burden if nothing else. I do agree that I think that model is a step in the right direction for

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Noah Kantrowitz
-Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Oberbrunner Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 1:43 PM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: Trac in trouble. Noah Kantrowitz wrote: And, as many people have noted

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Robert C Corsaro
rupert thurner wrote: On Oct 1, 4:25 pm, Robert C Corsaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erik Bray wrote: Trouble #1: Partially open environment. Recently there has been increasing need to have private and public parts of same project. Public part would be open for end users and developers,