[Trisquel-users] Re : Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread magicbanana
Adapting existing free software projects is not that common as a business. And you are right: the actual developers of the project are the first (and sometimes the only) ones to make money in this way or by implementing desired new features. I believe more common (small) businesses do

[Trisquel-users] Re : Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread magicbanana
I only report what was announced. I am not really sure we should believe it either.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread alonivtsan
Most of the hardware in the Neo Freerunner is open, so companies could simply buy the hardware from Openmoko and fix the hardware problems themselves without needing to rely on Openmoko. Anyway, I never had any problems making or receiving calls when using the latest Openmoko distribution

[Trisquel-users] Re : Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread magicbanana
Well, the assertion people get motivated by money is questionable. I remember a psychology paper showing that children draw significantly better if they are not promised candies to do so (the generalization to any work and any reward is questionable too). Anyway, I believe nobody would

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread mdunivan
RMS certainly is an intelligent man and a prophet. Yet, I understand how a programmer would take issue with his philosophy. Learning how to program isn't something that a person can't do easily. Just look at the job listings for programmers and all the languages and software one needs

Re: [Trisquel-users] Tablets

2012-03-17 Thread teodorescup
Hello, can someone explain to me why a libre tablet would have to have fundamentally different hardware specs (beside the touch screen), than a SSD netbook ?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread teodorescup
I'm just pouring gas on fire here but bare with me... t3g, you wrote I support GNU, free software, and Trisquel 100%. and used similar words on free software in other messages. Now, can you explain yourself as in what part of the free software or GNU do you support 100% ? Because, you

Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing additional DEs

2012-03-17 Thread mampir
I don't think there's a standard when it comes to installing the different desktop environments. In general, you should quickly check what packages start with the name of the desktop environment you want, and from there you'll determine which are the meta packages you need to install. You

Re: [Trisquel-users] Tablets

2012-03-17 Thread nycbone
RMS' issue with cellular telephones goes well beyond the issue of software freedom. Using a cell phone (smart or not) also invites the invasion of one's privacy by the cellular service company as well as the government. My impression from his writings is that he wouldn't use one even if the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why arent the Liberation fonts in the default install?

2012-03-17 Thread mampir
With hinting set to Slight, the Droid fonts look worser to me. Here is a comparison I made: DejaVu Sans, Size 9, Full Hinting Droid Sans, Size 10, Full Hinting Droid Sans, Size 10, Slight Hinting The DejaVu fonts definitely look better to me, although its hard see or explain why

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why arent the Liberation fonts in the default install?

2012-03-17 Thread gp
I think it's largely a personal choice. BTW I'm currently using PT Sans Caption and I find it to be much better than Droid and Deja Vu.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread andrew
I was trying to encompass everything from a Drupal customisation (https://drupal.org/drupal-services) where there are plenty of 3rd party providers. Through custom database programs as tailored by the original developers, the sort of thing that are hidden behind point of sale terminals or

[Trisquel-users] Re : Brigantia beta: When, if ever, is it appropriate to report broken packages and version mismatches?

2012-03-17 Thread magicbanana
I believe the simplest and most effective way to contact quidam (Trisquel's leader who is the main, if not only, developer as well) is to connect to the #trisquel IRC channel on irc.freenode.net. Take a look at this great manual (kudos to AndrewT and SirGrant!).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Disturbance at the microphone

2012-03-17 Thread matsetes
The disturbance now is slower, but I've tried all your tips and nothing has changed...

[Trisquel-users] Re : Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread magicbanana
Talking about a replacement of SAP, OpenERP is doing great in France (at least until I left it for Brazil). There are many ways to ethically make money from software and this thriving momentum for free software businesses cannot be denied anymore. However that is a weaker argument in favor

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why arent the Liberation fonts in the default install?

2012-03-17 Thread mampir
What package provides this font, if it's in the repositories?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread alanharper198869
The biggest argument against gaming here seems to miss the entire point. ID Software has created the Free Software Gaming Model. Really, it's the only one I've ever seen be successful (by my standards anyway.) What most people don't realize is that the art content of the game does not

[Trisquel-users] Re : Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread magicbanana
I do not know where you are from but employers ask the same in France: they pretend a developer should know every programming language and everything from hardware to applications... but you don't! I am a assistant professor in computer science and I always tell the students that a good

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread andrew
Thanks for the info. The white book has already been translated to English here: http://www.april.org/files/economic-models_en.pdf It is now on my to read pile. Thanks again.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread tegskywalker
People do get motivated by money. Take a look at Trisquel asking people for money with its membership plans that pretty much say Ruben needs money to keep this project going. If Ruben were to make the same if not more money from monthly donations for Trisquel than his real job, then he would

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread tegskywalker
Yeah, but ID is the exception to the rule. I really doubt that the big publishers like Activision, EA, Nintendo, Sony, and Ubisoft are ever going to release their game source code. Even if they remove all of the art, they will be scared about their code being on the net. There were big legal

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why arent the Liberation fonts in the default install?

2012-03-17 Thread gp
pt sans isn't in the repo. I downloaded it from google webfonts svn :D you can download all google webfonts at https://s3.amazonaws.com/joemaller_google_webfonts/googlewebfonts.tgz P.S. pt sans is under the SIL open font license

Re: [Trisquel-users] Disturbance at the microphone

2012-03-17 Thread gp
open alsamixer and try reducing mic boost :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread alanharper198869
But ID also licenses their engines. That's step number five on the list I made for you. It looks like Unreal Engine is on version 3. As such, why isn't version 2 under the GNU GPL? Or version 1? Tell me, how many new games out there are being released on Unreal Engine versions 1 and

[Trisquel-users] Re : Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread magicbanana
I see a difference between needing money and getting motivated by money. If Ruben was motivated by money I believe he would not have started Trisquel in the first place. The probability he will make more money with Trisquel than with another job exploiting his technical skills is very low.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread andrew
Many a mickle makes a muckle would seem to be the way to go. If free software can't assemble the resources to compete with games that have $Ms budget can it instead create the next Angry Birds? i.e. a Replicant/Cyanogen/Android game.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread magicbanana
You are having an interesting conversation. I am not much of a specialist when it comes to games (although I enjoy simple 2D games such as Hedgewars, SolarWolf, FrozenBubble, puzzles, etc.). I guess you are aware of Flattr and of the idea of turning it (well, not Flattr itself but a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread tegskywalker
The difference between giving money to a company compared to donations is that when you pay a company, you know what you are getting the majority of the time. You go to the store and buy a tablet with certain specifications because that is what your money is exactly going towards. Same with

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread tegskywalker
Oh btw, Bryan from the Linux Action Show gave some thoughts about his conversation with Stallman: http://lunduke.com/?p=2273

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread andrew
Actually Ruben is living off his savings in the hope we'll be able to raise the money to pay him a Spanish minimum wage and sustain the project. There's a critical bug open because we've not hit last year's target for members. https://trisquel.info/en/issues/4528 Given you're 100% behind

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread tegskywalker
I'll keep the donation in mind when I get some more cash later on. Due to the conversion rates, I will have to pay $80 and would have to be on behalf of the company I use for contract work. That should be ok right?

[Trisquel-users] trisquel_5.5-20120317_i686installed to Virtualbox, 16 GB HD, using (F4) OEM install with sweets-distribution (sugar 0.94.1) added

2012-03-17 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
I just installed trisquel_5.5-20120317_i686 to Virtualbox 4.1.10 , (16 GB HD,) using the (F4) OEM install. Installed sweets-distribution : http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution#Ubuntu_and_its_derivates Clicked on prepare oem icon on desktop to add

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread Loic j. Duros
So distorted from what rms really said... tegskywal...@hotmail.com wrote: I'll keep the donation in mind when I get some more cash later on. Due to the conversion rates, I will have to pay $80 and would have to be on behalf of the company I use for contract work. That should be ok right?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread andrew
The only automatic method of paying for membership that exists currently is monthly by Paypal, using https://trisquel.info/en/member You would set the per month fee to the minimum 5 € on that page. One off donations can be made using this page: https://trisquel.info/en/donate There it

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread adrian . malacoda
IOW you support free software only when you can use it to build proprietary software? Yeah... there's plenty of businesses and NPO's founded exactly on that idea. That's why we have no shortage whatsoever of revolutionary new web frameworks and javascript libraries. There are plenty of

Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman on the Linux Action Show

2012-03-17 Thread andrew
So reading between the lines RMS said nothing more than he has done before. Being gutter journalists and proprietary software programmers they cook up a story based on perceptions that were current a decade ago and have long been demonstrably false. There's no news in it. What is your