Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread Tiberiu C. Turbureanu
În 2013-12-21 04:06, gnu...@lavabit.com a scris: You want to trample over users who "bore" you, without them having any chance of fighting back. You don't need to fight with people on this forum, we are not the ones selling the laptops. You know what to do: write a blog post, post the link h

Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum moderation

2013-12-20 Thread jason
"you take everything that comes out of the FSF/RMS mouths as holy law" Hardly. No personal attacks please. Please don't take my agreement to mean I don't think about the issues and come to the same conclusions. So agreeing with the FSF makes sense in those cases.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why there is a .rpmdb directory in my system?

2013-12-20 Thread anandawardhana
I checked both live image and an updated installation on a VM: .rpmdb directory is not there. Also found this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/rpm/+bug/1069350/ Comment #13 says: "Ok, confirmed here that dkms does call rpm if it is installed and can create an empty rpm database in / or /

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?

2013-12-20 Thread aaz893
I can be wrong, but I heard that quakers(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quakers) are fatalists.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Front end for qrencode

2013-12-20 Thread gramex
I'm just bumping this thread so it doesn't lock.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why block Tor even for browsing?

2013-12-20 Thread Andrew Roffey
I've posted a bug report here: https://trisquel.info/en/issues/10780 Andrew.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?

2013-12-20 Thread gramex
Christians believe that man has a free will, not that people are puppets in the hands of God.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why there is a .rpmdb directory in my system?

2013-12-20 Thread anandawardhana
Ok, I am now installing it in a VM. Let's see if it's there.

Re: [Trisquel-users] I bought a Replicant/Cyanogenmod-incompatible Android phone.

2013-12-20 Thread gramex
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?

2013-12-20 Thread aaz893
>"Freedom" is not necessarily the ability to do anything You're misunderstood me. You can't behave freely AT ALL. You're a marionette in hands of the God/laws of Physics(atheistic variant of fatalism). Freedom is an illusion.

Re: [Trisquel-users] I bought a Replicant/Cyanogenmod-incompatible Android phone.

2013-12-20 Thread aaz893
Sorry, but "porting guide" have broken hyperlink. >The good news is, this device actually looks it would be a good target for Replicant if there were CyanogenMod support. Why do you think so?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?

2013-12-20 Thread aaz893
>Ethics is the whole point of Free Software. Also, there is political argument for FLOSS

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
and FYI I knew you would do just that, even before you did. That's how you (and other people here) want things to be from now on. You want to trample over users who "bore" you, without them having any chance of fighting back. You want to put people out so you can be "holier than the holy", wi

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread spikeb
looking around on the coreboot wiki, doesn't look too hard. just don't screw up.

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread Tiberiu C. Turbureanu
FYI, I have reported your violation of all 3 rules of the Code of Conduct. And proposed you get banned. În 2013-12-20 23:54, gnu...@lavabit.com a scris: they are here to make money and not to "bring freedom to the masses". As I see it, there are "here" for both reasons. The masses don't know

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
Didn't know that. Cool :) Can't imagine why they didn't endorse it then. Lol, if I could afford it I guess I would make a collection of those (yeloong, X60, etc) :P

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
Exactly :) Debian and GNewsense (based on Debian) run it. Don't know other distros that support it. (again, it shows that more options bring freedom, kudos to Debian team)

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread Michał Masłowski
Every Lemote YeeLoong with the Loongson 2F CPU has free boot firmware (PMON, like a BIOS but with support for loading kernels from filesystems or network; usually makes GRUB on disk unnecessary), but the default distro recommends/includes nonfree software. I don't know if there are any freedom iss

Re: [Trisquel-users] Buying a Trisquel laptop in France

2013-12-20 Thread trisquel
ThinkPenguin specifically mention shipping to France: https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/improved-support-non-us-customers

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
Maybe you should post those to the person above me.

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread george . standish
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/trisquel-community-guidelines

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread gramex
It uses the relatively obscure MIPS CPU architecture

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
Probably. If we think about it, it was not IBM who got the certification, the FSF gave it because of glug's work. So, maybe that is the reason, since there are not a lot of places you can get lemote yeelong prepared with freebios and such. A problem with lemote is the fact that not every dis

Re: [Trisquel-users] The install script for libdvdcss

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
Thanks! =D It worked like a charm (I mean, it got installed, haven't tried playing DVD yet lol). Thanks for the help.

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
Two words for you: fuck off You are bored with my comments, but not with people who act like FSF parrots, merely repeating everything they post on their website. If you read my comments (can you read??) you will see that I am defending their right to raise the prices, but that we should real

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread gramex
Perhaps Lemote never tried to get them certified. Anyway, they are to hard to obtain.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Has development on Trisquel 7 started?

2013-12-20 Thread gramex
Rubén Rodríguez is the main developer of Trisquel.

Re: [Trisquel-users] New "RPM"-based fully free system distribution

2013-12-20 Thread arielxgbarton
How different are debian and redhat based distros of GNU OS?

Re: [Trisquel-users] The install script for libdvdcss

2013-12-20 Thread onpon4
It's the same procedure as Ubuntu. You don't need to download the script separately, it's included with libdvdread4. You just need to execute it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] The install script for libdvdcss

2013-12-20 Thread gramex
I grabbed this from /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Has development on Trisquel 7 started?

2013-12-20 Thread arielxgbarton
Who actually develops it?

Re: [Trisquel-users] The install script for libdvdcss

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
Yes, could you please provide me with the script? I have downloaded both the deb file and the tar file, and it can't install =/ I am hoping the sript might work.

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread arielxgbarton
Don't various models of LEMOTE laptop have free BIOS? Those may not be the best laptops in the world, but shouldn't those have a respect your freedom certificate?

Re: [Trisquel-users] The install script for libdvdcss

2013-12-20 Thread gramex
http://trisquel.info/en/wiki/enable-dvd-playback How fast is that? :-)

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread gramex
How hard/easy is it to DIY a coreboot X60?

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread Tiberiu C. Turbureanu
În 2013-12-20 23:09, gnu...@lavabit.com a scris: So you make freedom available only for those who pay the highest price? -.- I am bored with your arguments. People are used to pay more (much more) for better marketed hardware (think of Apple's). This hardware is intended for people who value

[Trisquel-users] The install script for libdvdcss

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
Hello everyone. I want to install libdvdcss, but I don't want to allow non-free repositories. I remembered that Trisquel has a script that makes the installation automatically, could someone please provide it to me? I have downloaded it from videolan, but I can't install it for some reason =/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Proprietary software as result of psychological problems

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
Was that comment for me?

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
So you make freedom available only for those who pay the highest price? -.- as I have said, in a purely commercial view, I understand. They are selling a service and an item, and they are entitled to make the price. And people are free to choose if they want it or not. But I consider that we s

Re: [Trisquel-users] Buying a Trisquel laptop in France

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
Hum... while I can't help you with "where to get the laptop", I will tell you something that came to my mind when reading your post. My laptop, for some reason, only works with "Debian based distros". Ubuntu, Mint, Debian, Trisquel, Puppy, Tails, all work great. But anything that comes from F

Re: [Trisquel-users] Has development on Trisquel 7 started?

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
Lol, I wouldn't hold my breath xD

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why block Tor even for browsing?

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
Read this https://trisquel.info/en/forum/trisquelinfo-trying-block-tor-users I agree however, there is no reason for Tor to be whitelisted or blacklisted. I am forced to keep this old version just to come here. -.-

Re: [Trisquel-users] Buying a Trisquel laptop in France

2013-12-20 Thread em9002
According to the product listings on Gluglug's website, they ship worldwide at no extra cost. Also, I'm pretty sure ThinkPenguin will ship to France, I just don't know how much it will cost.

[Trisquel-users] Why block Tor even for browsing?

2013-12-20 Thread wlqdqxvu
I normally use Tor for my browsing. I noticed I am unable to even read the Trisquel forum while on Tor. Why is that? Not all users are bad. It's not that different from a proxy or VPN. More information here: http://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en Anyway, thank you for using HTTPS.

[Trisquel-users] Buying a Trisquel laptop in France

2013-12-20 Thread wlqdqxvu
Hello guys! My laptop is getting old. And I'm sick of it. I bought it from a supermarket. It was a great deal. A 17" screen for about 400€. Everything is good as long as I stick with Windows. On Linux it does not work. Trisquel doesn't even end the boot process. Fedora 18 or newer runs well

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-libreplanet-2013 download and streaming link is dead ?

2013-12-20 Thread mikko . viinamaki
I had the exactly same experience. Not too intuitive.

[Trisquel-users] Has development on Trisquel 7 started?

2013-12-20 Thread tegskywalker
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/12/ubuntu-14-04-alpha-1-released Ubuntu 14.04 Alpha 1 has been released and while it is an alpha release, has development on Trisquel 7 started since it will be based off of 14.04? Maybe it should start now so a release can come out within a month or two of the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Proprietary software as result of psychological problems

2013-12-20 Thread mikko . viinamaki
>are you so fucking retarded Please, try to remain civil.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Coreboot for my laptop

2013-12-20 Thread myself600
That's just a naming scheme of Samsung. He's notebook is definitely not supported.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Changing system fonts (especially monospace)

2013-12-20 Thread LDrumbler
Bump!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Coreboot for my laptop

2013-12-20 Thread LDrumbler
It looks like your laptop is supported! http://www.coreboot.org/Chromebooks

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread myself600
Use this: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=gbp+to+usd&t=trisquel

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread onpon4
Selling more doesn't help if you don't have anything left to sell. So if the demand is too high for you to supply, you raise the price, reducing the demand.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Coreboot for my laptop

2013-12-20 Thread myself600
I want that too (who not), but this isn't this simple. Unless you're a professional, willing to spend your time getting coreboot to work on your rig, you will be not able to run coreboot with binary-blobs. Here you can find information on how to begin: http://www.coreboot.org/Laptop#HOWTO_t

Re: [Trisquel-users] Proprietary software as result of psychological problems

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
I am starting to think you can't read. You misunderstood Oralfloss arguments, and now mine! -.- I was saying that IF my kids were starving, as a LAST RESORT I WOULD STEAL FOOD! That is to say that sometimes, unethical things can be justified. Got it? And as for the "get a job" thing... gues

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
Hum... excuse me, but how is having a lot of costumers a bad thing? -.^ I don't know how much he spends to get the laptops, but if he started selling at 100 and is now near the 200, he sure is making use of the publicity to get more and more profit margin. While that is not "wrong" in itself,

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread gramex
How much is that in USD?

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-libreplanet-2013 download and streaming link is dead ?

2013-12-20 Thread myself600
This is because the API is re-encoding the video/audio to WebM. You need to wait until its done.

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-libreplanet-2013 download and streaming link is dead ?

2013-12-20 Thread gramex
I thought I uploaded it to gobblin.se, but it doesn't show up in my profile, or on the main page.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Proprietary software as result of psychological problems

2013-12-20 Thread onpon4
What you're saying doesn't make sense. Writing proprietary software that makes you money requires a huge amount of calculated and controlled effort. It isn't a desperate last resort to feed your poor starving family. The last resort to feeding your poor starving family is more likely to be th

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
When I saw it the first time, they were about 150. But maybe the price had been changed before already. Anyway, it's a very bad idea to raise the price exactly in that moment.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Merry Grav-mass!

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
While I think that the whole "grav-mass" is the stupidest idea on earth (basically people disrespect Isaac Newton who was a christian, by using his name and work as a way to make the celebration of Christmas appear irrelevant), I don't think it was a bad thing to post it here. It's as if a

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread onpon4
Makes sense. If the price is too low, the guy's not going to be able to keep up with the supply. Keep in mind that this is currently the only laptop with the "respects your freedom" endorsement; that means that a lot of people are going to want it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] I bought a Replicant/Cyanogenmod-incompatible Android phone.

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
Hey. Try taking a look at this http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/83936-request-for-samsung-galaxy-star-duos/ It has no replies yet, but maybe you can add your own request there, and it will eventually play out :) good luck. Also, you might wanna try getting root access, removing some pieces of

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread myself600
The price nearly doubled since November: IBM Lenovo ThinkPad X60 (w/ coreboot) (w/o extras) - from £99 to £178 IBM Lenovo ThinkPad X60 (w/ coreboot) - £119 to £198 Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20131103030707/http://shop.gluglug.org.uk/product/ibm-lenovo-thinkpad-x60-coreboot/

Re: [Trisquel-users] I bought a Replicant/Cyanogenmod-incompatible Android phone.

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
Dude, you are asking for help installing free software. Relax, if someone criticizes you, just tell them to fuck off. They already want to censor threads on proprietary software, don't let them do the same with free software threads! Have you tried CM? Like said above, Replicant will come t

Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum moderation

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
Sure... so for you to go and suggest free software to someone should be a crime too, right? Listen guys... speaking up our mind, trying to give others what we believe are the best principles, is no something that is wrong. Debate will always bring a more clear idea and path in everyone's mind

Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum moderation

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
Interesting, you talk like that simply because you take everything that comes out of the FSF/RMS mouths as holy law, and want to impose that on others too. You don't want anyone to question things, to say "should it be this way?". You remind me of 1984, the movie made in 1954 which is in public

Re: [Trisquel-users] Proprietary software as result of psychological problems

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
Well, RMS tends to say things he shouldn't, so Oralfloss reasoning is more than justified. And anyway, YES feeding my kids is enough justification. How can you disagree with that? What, are you so fucking retarded that if you had your kids and wife starving you wouldn't do ANYTHING to help th

Re: [Trisquel-users] is trisquel.info trying to block Tor users?

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
So... I still can't access trisquel.info with the new version of TBB. Anything else needed to allow us in here? I would (and did try initially) whitelist the IP manually but the problem is that Tor uses different IP addresses everytime, so it is not a solution. Hope it get's fixed soon.

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread gnuser
I was taking a read yesterday at the article on FSF website, and I was very happy when I saw that they had recognized the work done by the glug shop. HOWEVER, and I think this is important to say, unless my memory is playing a trick on me, glug RAISED THE PRICES THE SAME DAY! Now... I am not

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread gramex
"All the recent Intel X86 laptops are too hard to liberate" How recent? 2010?

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-libreplanet-2013 download and streaming link is dead ?

2013-12-20 Thread dadix
Thank you all :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Coreboot for my laptop

2013-12-20 Thread dadix
My laptop is a Samsung 3 series.

[Trisquel-users] Coreboot for my laptop

2013-12-20 Thread dadix
I want to put Coreboot on my laptop but I don't found any refernce for my laptop. i only saw Coreboot for Chromebook. The Coreboot installation depends on what? Video card? Processor? What must be compatible ? I have a intel i5 2410m peocesor and a Nvidia 520mx video card. So my laptop is comp

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread jamathis
Awesome. When I'm in the market for a new laptop, I'll be ordering one.

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread myself600
Thanks for your comprehensive explanation. If I understand correctly, the problem is with vPro. I made some research and found this: - laptops in the "X" line of ThinkPad models has the CPU soldered on-board. This comes as a shock to me, because I expected the processor to be replaceable, j

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread jason
"So "Embedded Controller" blob is allowed in RYF, but not "Management Engine". Am I correct?" Quite right. AMT is an entirely different beast than something that's limited to detecting the laptop lid being opened/closed, etc. All the recent Intel X86 laptops are too hard to liberate (althou

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread myself600
This is what I'm saying too. I recommend you the HP Chromebook 14 over the C720 model, since it has a bigger screen, and is an overall better/more advantageous purchase, but since it's a donation, I doesn't think you have much choice about what you will get (if you can, go for Pixel :^P). T

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread myself600
So "Embedded Controller" blob is allowed in RYF, but not "Management Engine". Am I correct? I doesn't have yet a notebook running coreboot, so I'm not familiar with it, but I'm looking for a replacement for my R60, in form of either the X60/s or X201 ThinkPad models, and this is a very import

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread Michał Masłowski
X201 has a ME.bin blob, like the one used for AMT. It doesn't work without it (reboots after some time) and it's not clear for me if the "secondary embedded processors" exception in the RYF criteria applies to it (there are also the possible spying and backdoor issues). (Coreboot contains a CPU m

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread jlewis
FYI. If you want something now, and with recent hardware (although a bit blobby), get a Chromebook. There are currently coreboot builds on my site for 5 models - Acer C710 (Sandybrige + Ivybridge variants), HP 14 (Sandybridge Feb 2013), Samsung Series 5 550, and Pixel. http://johnlewis.ie

Re: [Trisquel-users] Merry Grav-mass!

2013-12-20 Thread myself600
And Merry chRistMaS for the rest of us .

Re: [Trisquel-users] vPro full support is coming to linux

2013-12-20 Thread myself600
It's not about Intel wants to spy on users, it's the technical possibility to do that. I have this cr** in my notebook, and I'm planning a reball.

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-20 Thread myself600
What about Lenovo X201? When that will be available, RYF certified? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU0NDY On a sidenote, the wifi card used in the Glu..something X60/s model contains a bluetooth chip that does not work with free software. I know that because I tested it

[Trisquel-users] Re : Proprietary software as result of psychological problems

2013-12-20 Thread magicbanana
I do not have the time to argue these days... :-) Anyway, onpon4 and lembas (mainly) wrote what I think probably more eloquently than I would! I just wanted to mention this white paper entitled "Economic models of Free Software": href="http://www.april.org/files/economic-models_en.pdf It

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-libreplanet-2013 download and streaming link is dead ?

2013-12-20 Thread myself600
Ubuntu One is the only webhosting service that allowed me to embed the video. If you know a better way (except MediaGoblin, which doesn't allow lossless uploads), then speak.

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-libreplanet-2013 download and streaming link is dead ?

2013-12-20 Thread myself600
Ideally, I would have been uploaded them on the home server at http://devel.trisquel.info but that's not possible. You can ask the webmaster for permission, and if given, I will gladly reupload them, and any of my future recordings here.

[Trisquel-users] Re : trisquel-libreplanet-2013 download and streaming link is dead ?

2013-12-20 Thread odonoghuekniffen988
Working here. http://geideon.fr

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-libreplanet-2013 download and streaming link is dead ?

2013-12-20 Thread Andrew Roffey
I've got a torrent seed if anyone wants to help. The magnet URL: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:f0bed026fd04c5604e7d474304a93b6ee3f05231&dn=lp2013-ruben-full.ogv&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.istole.it%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-libreplanet-2013 download and streaming link is dead ?

2013-12-20 Thread myself600
Mirror: https://www.mediafire.com/?yzxhs4dva7ubs Downloading works well, except the speed, which is around 120kB/s (see my attachment).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why there is a .rpmdb directory in my system?

2013-12-20 Thread mikko . viinamaki
If you have a live Trisquel media at hand, you could try booting it to see if it already has the folder.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why there is a .rpmdb directory in my system?

2013-12-20 Thread anandawardhana
I never ran Alien. Never had RPMs in this machine. This is very strange. I see people complaining about it on Ubuntu sites too. I hope there's nothing to be alarmed