Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-24 Thread onpon4
Gnash doesn't work well for anything, and in fact gets in the way of fallback HTML5 players (making some streaming sites look like they don't work when they do). I have no idea if Wine works with Skype, but it's probably not a high priority what with a GNU binary being available. Sure, you

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-24 Thread icarolongo
Ekiga isn't good. I recommend Jitsi, Linphone or WebRTC. All this is cross-platform. You can install in the most operating systems. For GNU/Linux the best for small resources or old computer is Empathy and Linphone. Jitsi is a memory and CPU hungry. Probably WebRTC in Abrowser too.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-24 Thread hellocomputer8
Sorry. I meant running free software that hadn't been ported to linux yet (or ported but left unchanged otherwise.) I guess Minitube won't work?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-24 Thread hellocomputer8
I'm trying to mean I might add a DE every so often to the VM ( see one of my previous posts ) so that whenever my friend hears linux my friend will not think about a panel at the bottom, a trisquel button and a system tray.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-24 Thread hellocomputer8
I mean free software that hadn't been changed ( i.e. to change the OS of a web browser so I could run windows executables ( free software of course ) ).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-24 Thread hellocomputer8
I'm sorry, it's just that most windows runtimes can be supplied in linux/trisquel. java = openjdk flash = gnash ( maybe not though) html5 = well, html5 .net = mono shockwave = probaly not.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-24 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Minitube is in the repositories. Just mind the privacy implications.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-23 Thread hellocomputer8
And also send the template at https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/recommending-trisquel to my friends email?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-23 Thread hellocomputer8
So I should first tell my friend to use Free Software Applications, wait about 3-5 weeks, grab the ISO and make a VM, wait a week, give my friend a LiveUSB and tell my friend to use the LiveUSB a couple times, wait 4 weeks, and finally install?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-23 Thread hellocomputer8
I am not trying to move my friend to Trisquel 6.0 for the freedoms (well atleast not just because of the freedoms) but for the fact it might be better for my friend. My friend /*isn't that smart on computers*/ and finds Windows too complex. My friend is looking for a laptop more simple; it's

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-23 Thread onpon4
If they don't use Flash and can live without Flash and Skype in particular (be sure to explain what exactly Flash is and what it's used for), then Trisquel might be just fine for them. My mom is OK with Trisquel, for example. If they're not OK with losing Flash and Skype (or there's some

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-23 Thread hellocomputer8
And I could install the default settings a desktop environment anyway.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-23 Thread hellocomputer8
And a VM/wine works right most of the time anyway. Then again, every package is a vulnerability.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-23 Thread hellocomputer8
Couldn't you just use a) Wine to run Skype (or run it in a (legit) VM) and b) use Gnash?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-22 Thread holger . beetz
Even if I am late...here are my 2 cents... For me all boils down to this: Trisquel Debian Ubuntu Windows / MacOS with mostly open source Windows / MacOS with no open source used Explanation: - Trisquel stands for pretty much every free GNU Linux out there - Debian stands for all those

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-22 Thread leny2010
Personally I just ask people about their use cases first. There's an awful lot of people, like the friend who I recently influenced into using Trisquel, for whom the many things free software _can_ do are more than they need. Of course I always discuss the freedoms. But, people do tend to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-20 Thread joseph . e . dickson
I had been using GNU/Linux for 2 years before I discovered Trisquel. I eased into it after I became less reliant on propietary software. By the time I discovered Trisquel the transition wasn't a big deal since I knew the alternatives to flash and various codecs.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-20 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Tell him about freedom. Let him choose. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-20 Thread shiretoko
Users must understand it (they must be told so) and keep it in mind for the free software movement to be a success. That's only half of the truth. Maybe the free software movement has to understand a few things as well. Many members of it spend their time searching for solutions for their own

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-20 Thread shiretoko
Users must understand it (they must be told so) and keep it in mind for the free software movement to be a success. That's only half of the truth. Maybe the free software movement has to understand a few things as well. Many members of it spend their time searching for solutions for their own

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-20 Thread adel . afzal
We have some canned promotional statements in the Documentation. Can we better gear these statements to new users? https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/recommending-trisquel Telstar wrote that the specific freedoms may be too abstract for new users. Magic says that freedom matters. Can we

[Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-19 Thread hellocomputer8
A friend of mine (who uses Windows 8; I know that's awful) for some reason doesn't understand that Windows 8 is not what my friend should have because my friend is trying to find some laptop that's simple; my friend just doesn't understand that Windows (or Mac) is NOT /*caps intended*/ the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-19 Thread onpon4
I wouldn't. Turning someone off to GNU/Linux (which is used to describe several operating systems that are rather different) would be a huge loss. I think someone who is used to Windows needs to be introduced to something like Ubuntu GNOME before trying Trisquel, and they need to learn about

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-19 Thread hbrock1994
I think onpon4 sums it up pretty well. Free software in general, such as GIMP, is a step in the right direction. A GNU/Linux distribution such as Ubuntu or Fedora is an even bigger step in the right direction-- even if both have proprietary software and firmware. I wouldn't recommend

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting someone to switch to Trisquel

2013-11-19 Thread nowaman
Good thoughts fellows. I'd like to contribute something. I'm already sorry for a lenghty answer, but I hope it give some insight. a Previous thread here shows that many of us have switched to free software step-by-step, many small steps after another, so I'd suggest using that strategy.