Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-23 Thread aliasbody
I restarted using Trisquel Gnu/Linux as my main Distribution (after a long trip (may this be the word I wanted to use xD) in the lands of Parabola Gnu/Linux) and I have to admit... I really love this distribution :D Maybe because of the Design, maybe because of the All Free Software, Maybe

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-22 Thread aliasbody
I mostly agree with this to be honest... I would even think a second time about switching from Parabola to Trisquel if this happens, because if I love the always update side of Parabola I mostly love the stability of Debian (yes Debian no Ubuntu for the most cases). And if Trisquel could be

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-22 Thread andrew . roffey
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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-22 Thread aliasbody
Thank you :D

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-22 Thread chris
You speak English very well even if it is obviously not your native tongue. In fact you are communicating better than most native speakers if you ask me. I frequently get two word emails that aren't intelligible from native speakers.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-22 Thread chris
I'm pretty sure this is correct. The whole point is not to break things. If you do anything more you risk introducing problems. I'd definitely do a distribution based of Ubuntu or Debian and then update select packages. That does risk breaking things although the documentation would remain

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-21 Thread aliasbody
That could actually work indeed. A little bit like the Debian system, something that releases only from LTS to LTS, but updates important packages when necessary to solve problems. That way people don't have to be worried about updates every 6Months and Rubén will not have to hurry on the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-21 Thread nospamhere
Well whatever is done to fork Trisquel off of Ubuntu needs to continue. Going back for years, I have always found Ubuntu to be a bug-ridden, unstable mess, which is why no Ubuntu install ever lasted more than 24 hours on my machine. Trisquel isn't like that. It is as if Trisquel stabilizes

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-21 Thread chris
I believe that is correct. The development starts after the release of an Ubuntu.,  ,  The only thing that will bring it out earlier is if there is enough money to pay a full time developer. Otherwise whoever is working on it is going to have other obligations which come before.,  ,  The

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-20 Thread freemind
Sorry but comparing the two can actually be fair. Linux Mint develops many more things than Trisquel, that's why they need more developers and more support. They even have their own applications and now their own Desktop Environment (Cinnamon), besides they support about 5 flavours of Linux

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-20 Thread chris
This is likely because he had more time in the early years to work on these releases. He's not going to have that time again. Unlike early on there were probably other people contributing to his existence (government) and parents. Now he's got to work and the releases are less timely.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-20 Thread freemind
Aren't donations a contribution? Because i'm seeing lots of donations being made to Trisquel since the donation system has started. Plus Trisquel has also other sources of income like the gift shop and so on, but the donations alone should be sufficient to see an improvement in the release

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-20 Thread chris
Like Magic Banana said the amount of funds are insufficient at this point to make a difference in the timeliness of the releases. Until there are sufficient funds for Rubén Rodríguez to work on it full time I don't think it is unreasonable that the release time be significant in comparison

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-14 Thread tegskywalker
Ruben should should start development the next version of Trisquel when the Ubuntu release he is basing it on is in the beta stages. Sure there will be bugs in the Ubuntu code, but at least he can get a headstart. I know the Linux Mint project is more supported, but they make sure to have

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-14 Thread chris
I'm in communications with the lead developer of Linux Mint project. If my memory serves me correctly he told me the project has four full time paid developers and lots of contributors. One of the full time developers works full time just on the Cinnamon desktop environment. In comparison

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-14 Thread em9002
It'd be great if we could have four full time paid developers. How does Linux Mint bring in the money to pay them?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-14 Thread chris
Well, Trisquel needs a public relations persons for starters. Every time there is a release it needs to be shown off. This would build interest in the distribution. Linux Mint does a good job of this. Right now Trisquel doesn't get much press at release time. Linux Mint has relationships

[Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-13 Thread freemind
I was wondering why Trisquel is always one release behind Ubuntu? Ubuntu is about to release the 12.10 version and Trisquel hasn't even released the version correspondent to 12.04. To me it doesn't seem to be lack of development, but instead it seems to be planned this way, but maybe i'm

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-13 Thread Michał Masłowski
If I recall correctly, quidam considers a just released Ubuntu not stable enough for Trisquel to be based on it, there are bugs fixed after the release, so he waits several months before starting the development of a next Trisquel release. I don't know Ubuntu development so I cannot verify this

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-13 Thread sudoman
Does anyone know when quidam expects Trisquel 6.0 to be ready?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel and Ubuntu releases

2012-10-13 Thread chris
I don't know what Rubén's reasons are although having experience in this area I can tell you why I'd plan for a release 6 months after the release of the derived distribution. For one I wouldn't have to worry about bugs unrelated to the changes I've made. A stable distribution means I don't