[TROM1] IVy magazine coming in pdf format - and a free one already available.

2008-11-20 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Dear TROMmer, As most of you know I ran this TROM list for years, from the time it was empty for months on end, to when Pete McLaughlin took it over recently. Now I have dropped another hat - IVy magazin

Re: [TROM1] New to List

2009-03-21 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 03:33 21-03-2009, Pete McLaughlin wrote: > Is there anyone you know who can recommend a good Private Investigator? In Denmark, there is more than one on line telephone book. I used it to trace down s

Re: [TROM1] LRH's "failure"?

2009-05-03 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 03:13 03-05-2009, jurgen_t...@hotmail.com wrote: >The problem with his presentation are the associations in the text >to scientology terms and concepts. And since the first part is just >repeating Trom

Re: [TROM1] Question / correction

2009-08-02 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 18:41 02-08-2009, David Pelly wrote: >SO HERE IS WHAT I WILL DO: > >I will put my case on the table. for group " in class" handling. I may have missed something here amongst the advice given. Ther

Re: [TROM1] Question / correction

2009-08-03 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 22:57 02-08-2009, David Pelly wrote: >Yes, I think you did miss something. >I said when I got into it, a few weeks a go, ... Hi David, OK, I missed that. It seems the basic data is to handle mass b

[TROM1] About TROM Replays

2009-08-04 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 13:10 04-08-2009, private mail, some one wrote me (about TROM list): And I  do not know what you mean by Replays? And sending  what out weekly? That sort of shocked me.  The Replays, to my mind, are a

Re: [TROM1] A Replay

2009-08-06 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 16:06 06-08-2009, David Pelly wrote: >The archives are somewhat confusing to me. Yes, they need a bit of understanding. Familiarity may breed contempt (a rather poor saying), but familiarity certainly

Re: [TROM1] Fw: Fwd: a message to the list

2010-07-11 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org This raised an eyebrow.  I was referred to a bit of talk which did not say much, and then a long bit of music (which was not very interesting)l And it appears to be connected to TROM. How? Outside of Scie

Re: [TROM1] Understanding the postulate "to be known"

2010-08-03 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 10:47 03-08-2010, Jurgen wrote: >However, I advise you to NOT translate these key words since they >have a strict conceptual meaning, so only when you are absolutely >sure that it communicates the same

Re: [TROM1] Understanding the postulate "to be known"

2010-08-03 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 13:30 03-08-2010, Happy Harry wrote: ... >I don't know if that's your intention, but if you intend to >translate the TROM manual into German: the way I would do it is keep >the English terms for all th

Re: [TROM1] Book Report "A View from the Bridge" by Eric Townsend

2010-08-03 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 17:57 03-08-2010, Pete McLaughlin wrote: * The following message is relayed to you by  trom@lists.newciv.org Hi All   I have studied a lot of Scientology only to find that ther

Re: [TROM1] Martin/ re scn

2010-08-03 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 14:39 02-08-2010, David wrote: >PTS means Potential Trouble source. That means a person who >causes problems in an environment where he/ she is.SP means >Suppressive person. Whoops - incorrect.T

[TROM1] Deciding where to start

2010-08-15 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Dear Trommer, Dennis, as you know, was a Scientologist, going way back to very early Scientology days. TROM was written by him. My contention is that a knowledge of Scientology helps understand TROM. (De

[TROM1] Terry Scott dead

2010-08-20 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Dear Trommer, Terry Scott died yesterday, Thursday, a little after 06.00 in a hospital near Southend, Essex, England. So far as TROM is concerned, Terry was in private communication with Dennis around the

Re: [TROM1] Enlighten me 2

2010-08-23 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 18:22 23-08-2010, dpe...@execulink.com wrote: ... Dennis often speaks in clever riddles. ... Well that is a positive way of putting it.  I was inclined to say that Dennis sometimes uses ambiguities an

Re: [TROM1] trom

2010-10-25 Thread Ant Phillips
There is loads of information there of experiences and questions answered. http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom and you can get your password there if you have forgotten it. All best wishes, Ant Phillips. ___ Trom mailing list Trom@lists.newc

Re: [TROM1] RE CCHs

2010-11-08 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Dear TROMmers, Yes there is a whole Scientology world outside of TROM. What "orthodox" TROMmers might call the "alternative" world. I knew a married couple who co-audited Scientology objectives on each o

[TROM1] BT (Body Thetan) was Re: Possession

2010-12-25 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 16:31 25-12-2010, David M. Pelly wrote: >I looked up the definition of body thetans in the tech dictionary >and it is not there, at least in my edition. >Can someone please enlighten me on that subject

[TROM1] John Boice

2010-12-31 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Dear Trommer, It seems that one or more of the group feels a bit guilty about John Boice's death. I do not think there is need to.  No body here is perfect.  Be willing to forgive yourself if you think yo

Re: [TROM1] John Boice on Trom

2011-01-01 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 01:23 01-01-2011, David M. Pelly quoted John Boice: ... > What the hell does he mean by "NO CHANGE." I'm tired of guessing ... (This frustration was repeated a number of times in Boice's letter) When

Re: [TROM1] John Boice on Trom

2011-01-02 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Dear Martin and each other list member. At 21:51 01-01-2011, Martin Foster wrote: I would be very interested in the two early processes you mention that Time-breaking is based on. I do not think I have cl

Re: [TROM1] John Boice on Trom

2011-01-02 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 21:51 01-01-2011, Martin Foster wrote: Hi Ant, I would be very interested in the two early processes you mention that Time-breaking is based on. As far as I can remember they were called "Then and Now

Re: [TROM1] Trom objectives

2011-04-09 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 12:16 06-04-2011, macro scope wrote: >It wouldn't be possible to approach the church and ask for CCH's so >that you could then do Trom. >It is against their policy. >For those he want to receive some ob

Re: [TROM1] Trom objectives

2011-04-10 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 21:15 09-04-2011, Mickel wrote: ... >I could probably do with some objectives myself so recently I sent for some >Tai Chi CD/DVDs and the first exercise I saw was the one you described > >I don't know if

Re: [TROM1] RE TROM Objectives

2011-04-12 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 19:57 10-04-2011, Colleen Peltomaa wrote: ... >I "passed" the test Dennis gives and then had my auditor run the CCH's on me. ... Yes. Reminds me of something. I know a Scientology Briefing course stu

Re: [TROM1] Some Level 3 Cogs

2011-09-18 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org I found that most interesting.  You never (or rarely) know what goes on in other's "head". Ant At 05:01 2011-09-18, Paul Tipon wrote: The next day after a session, while in the garage having a cigarette, 

Re: [TROM1] what is wrong about LRH tech?

2011-10-02 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 01:00 2011-10-02, Pete McLaughlin wrote: ... >My problem with the LRH approach is that it requires a separate >auditor to make it work. ... A small comment here. There is more Scientology tech than what

Re: [TROM1] olivia_c18

2011-12-20 Thread Ant Phillips
. All best wishes, Ant IVy ListAdmin: Ant Phillips ivylistsad...@mail.dk IVy Home Page: http://www.ivymag.org/ ___ Trom mailing list Trom@lists.newciv.org http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom

[TROM1] Fwd: Dictionaries

2012-02-23 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org This and the following email refers a little to my reading of this list recently. All best wishes, Ant Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:05:20 +0100 To: ivy-subscriber...@lists.worldtrans.org From: Ant

[TROM1] Fwd: Games

2012-02-23 Thread Ant Phillips
: Ant Phillips Subject: [IVy-subs-1] Games **   ivy-subscribers-1 Started January 1997 Relaying positive communication to participants. ** Dear ivy-subscribers, On two of the three list I am on there has been a lot of talk recently about games.  I have found it

[TROM1] Pilot'sPosts Introduction/advertisement

2012-04-25 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Dear Trommer This little announcement concerns Scientology, and many Scientologist's break with the official organisation. It does not concern TROM, so if Scientology and its splintering up does not inter

Re: [TROM1] The creator of the universe and the basic law that governs it.

2012-08-01 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 17:11 01-08-2012, SPE wrote: The creator of this universe has never been in this Universe One dogmatic statement deserves another: You are one of the many creators of this universe, and you are in it

[TROM1] Games - Total Freedom

2013-10-02 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Dear Trommer, While we are talking of games, and because some here have been in connection with Scientology, I wonder if you are aware that L Ron Hubbard wrote "Only stupid visionaries chant of endless fr

Re: [TROM1] Games - Total Freedom

2013-10-03 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 09:25 03-10-2013, Ludo Vermeulen wrote: Hi, I believe Ron was refering to total freedom while playing games. Well you can see for certain what Ron was referring to if you read the chapter in the bo

[TROM1] Fwd: From [SuperScio] Pilot's repost Z79 -- Running Ridges //Then and Now Solids

2013-11-05 Thread Ant Phillips
. At 04:55 05-11-2013, Ant Phillips quoted a part of a Pilot post: ... So I applied the above paragraph to it and came up with the following - Pick an object in the room. Alternately: a) Make it more solid b) Make it less solid ... Then I used it as a variation on Then and Now solids (16th ACC

Re: [TROM1] R: My love

2013-12-08 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Humph!,  Judith Anderson's address is also wrong, and I do not think she has anything to do with TROM.  Max Sandor's address is not the one I have though I have not contacted him for a long time. Out of d

Re: [TROM1] Knowledge about the ape

2014-01-11 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 13:32 11-01-2014, max-cz...@seznam.cz wrote: Hello TROMmers! Where can I find knowledge about the ape (Quote: A knowledge of the eating, mating, cultural and social habits of this ape are invaluable to

[TROM1] The Pilot (Ken Ogger): Cosmic History.

2014-03-03 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org For your information, I have just started sending the Pilot's Cosmic History out in weekly instalments. It is a discussion group (list similar to this TROM list) but concerned solely with the Pilot's

Re: [TROM1] The Pilot (Ken Ogger): Cosmic History.

2014-03-16 Thread Ant Phillips
x27;ve got to get the job done this lifetime,  as all these adventures in the 'Cosmic History' have grown  very,  very 'long in the tooth' ! Much Appreciated. Aarre Peltomaa peltomaa.aa...@gmail.com (647) 202-7267    Mississauga,  Ontario,  Canada (219) 299-4944    US  nu

[TROM1] Don't mind being known

2014-08-06 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Dear Trommers, When you compare TROM to Scientology, it might be worth remembering a Scientology principle (or hypothesis), that of gradient scales. There are things in between extremes. For example som

[TROM1] Tone scale: Re: R: Ken Ogger's Cosmic History

2014-09-06 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 23:17 06-09-2014, Pete Mclaughlin wrote: While Dennis does mention the CDEI in the books he does not mention the emotional tone scale.  The emotional tone scale was developed by LRH to guide pre-E-mete

Re: [TROM1] For Discussion: Buddha Nirvana Process from Little Purple Notebook

2014-11-01 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 01:19 01-11-2014, Colleen K. Peltomaa wrote: It was either Ed Dawson or Max Sandor who wrote this: From what I have read, the Buddha also did some serious timebreaking. 749. The Nirvana Process [From

[TROM1] http://www.freezoneearth.org back up.

2015-02-14 Thread Ant Phillips
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org http://www.freezoneearth.org  is in place again. Ant -- Antony Phillips. www.antology.info http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmXZ4X_uYRo (in Danish) Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdgqweh-4WI (En

[TROM1] PRIVATE Re:http://www.freezoneearth.org back up.

2015-02-15 Thread Ant Phillips
iverable. Thanks Pete Mclaughlin Sent from my iPad On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:13 AM, Ant Phillips < ant.phill...@post8.tele.dk> wrote: * The following message is relayed to you by  trom@lists.newciv.org http://www.freezoneearth.org is in place again. Ant -- Antony Phillips.

[TROM1] end up completely out of agreement was: Re: pervasion of infinite space

2010-01-25 Thread Ant Phillips (IVy)
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org At 17:21 25-01-2010, Mickel wrote: ... >Has Anyone considered that in doing this mind or spiritual work how far you >can actually go before you end up completely out of agreement with people >around you. f