[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In
the past Mormons have said we need more "revelation" because Christians
are divided on understanding the Bible.
DAVEH: "need"?!?!?!?!
I would think you would anxiously look forward to revelations from the
Lord clarifying some of the mysteries that seem to confuse P
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Whether
LDS theology is right or wrong..many of those who practice it do it
with great sincerity. I
dont doubt the sincerity of your LDS beliefs. I doubt the sincerity of
your search for Truth
DAVEH:
Therein lies your problem, Izzy. Despite me explaining my
Blainer) (Raising his hand) Teacher!! Teacher! I know what a fire is!!
Its when you make a spark on an acetyline torch and a flame comes out!!
My dad who is welder has one. I got my finger in one once, and WOW!! did
that hurt. My finger is no longer useful.
Glenn, can you imagine this sort
Blainer) Pardon me, Glenn, but I can't resist this one!! The blue pills
I see on TV are always VIAGRA. LOL
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 09:23:27 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Thank you. I hope you mailed it overnight. I will have trouble
> sleeping
> until I get it. Maybe I can take a pill or tw
Blainer) I just think you are obsessed with making Joseph Smith out to
be a liar, whether he was or not. You just seem too eager, and this
bothers me.
>From what I have read of the JS papyri, I see no way anyone could come to
the conclusion you have stated. There are FAR, FAR, too many areas of
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 21:29:34 + "Charles Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Izzy,
>
>You probably know this, but regarding the source of the BoM (Most
> LDS I
> know claim JS was too simple to write it himself) it is known that
> in the
> early 1800s authors Josiah Priest and Ethan
Blainer) I jus' do what I see you guys doing--I read someone else'
opinion of the book and judge it from there. LOL
On Sun, 8 Dec 2002 10:42:43 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Blainer wrote:
> > I remember it being a term related to the word
> > Jack-ass. Lots of noise, a lot
Blainer) That is a tempting offer. You must have more faith in the
Larson book that I do.
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:05:53 -0600 "ShieldsFamily"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Miller
Blainer) so does this mean you recognize the separate identies of the
members of the Godhead?
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 07:45:24 -0600 "ShieldsFamily"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Blainer--No I am way IN; you are way OUT! :-) "Our image" means
> "Father,
> Son, and Holy Spirit." Izzy
>
> -Origina
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:39:15 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Here's another article from Christianity Today. Laura
>
>
>
> Temple Square Face-off
> Baptist evangelist irks LDS, but court is on his side.
> By John W. Kennedy | posted 12/9/2002
>
> Kurt Van Gorden, a Southern Baptist pastor, h
Blainer) I am only blind in one eye. "US" is definitely plural. As
Perry said, "Elohim"--the Hebrew word that translates to "
"God" in the KJV is plural, too.
So, here is the way that passage should translate into English:
"And THE GODS said, let US make man in OUR image, after OUR like
Blainer) I am amazed at this revelation, Glenn. I know what to think, I
just don't know what to say. But Congratulations, I am pleased to learn
this about you and your wife. That is extremely generous!!
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:31:01 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> There are 2 "Jesus Loves Me
> "I will take the stick of Joseph,
> and will put it with the stick of Judah,
> and make them one stick,
> and they shall be one in my hand."
> Ezekiel 37:19
>
Blainer) Perry, give us your objective opinon of the above passge.
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with
MAT 15:9 {But in vain they do worship
me, teaching [for] doctrines
the
commandments of men.}MAR 7:7 {Howbeit in vain do
they worship me, teaching [for] doctrines
the
commandments of men.}
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Blainer) That was great, Glenn. Got any more like this???
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:04:28 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I don't know if this is a valid author, but it has some truth.
> > Subject: USAF 4 Star Speaks Out]
> >
> > This pretty much covers it.
> >
> >
> > For those o
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 22:19:00 -0500 "David
Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
||
> He that is unclean needs a bath, but
once he has washed, he is [forever] > clean.
that is Scriptural?? it sounds more like
something an unrepentin momma woulda
said
actually, this is more scriptural than
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Joseph
Smith is not the Lord.DAVEH:
I never said he was. He was simply a prophet of the Lord.
That
is not true. He was a false prophet.
DAVEH:
I respectfully disagree.
What
on earth makes you think you need more than the Lord revealed in His word?
DAVEH
michael douglas wrote:
Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ShieldsFamily wrote:
DAVEH:
As I understand it, polytheism is the pagan worship of pagan gods.
Though there may be many gods, to us (LDS) there is one supreme God to
worship, our Heavenly Father, AND his Son Jesus Christ who
is ou
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ROFL
Do
I make you feel insecure?
DAVEH: Evidently so Brother Glenn, or you wouldn't have felt the
need to LAUGH SO LOUD!
--
~~~
Dave Hansen
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http://www.langlitz.com
~~~
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But
I don't have a motorcycle to ride on when I wear one of your jackets.
DAVEH: Hmmnow you tell me! Since you are already
going to be receiving ONE BIG gift, I suppose you will have to wait until
next Christmas to again ask me for one. BTW..when is yo
David Miller wrote:
>>> "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and
>>> just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse
>>> us from all unrighteousness." (1 John 1:9)
>>>
>>>.. in Jesus Christ are we righteous or unrighteous?
Gary wrote:
>> unrighteous
>> because, 'confess[ing] sins' presupposes sin
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 16:31:48 -0500 "David
Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:>David Miller wrote:>>> "If we confess our sins, he
is faithful and just to forgive us >our sins, and to cleanse us from all
unrighteousness." (1 John 1:9)>>.. in Jesus
Christ are we righteous or unrighteou
David Miller wrote:
>> "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our
>> sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." (1 John 1:9)
>>
>>.. in Jesus Christ are we righteous or unrighteous?
Gary wrote:
> unrighteous
I think you might want to reconsider. Only the righteou
Izzy,
You probably know this, but regarding the source of the BoM (Most LDS I
know claim JS was too simple to write it himself) it is known that in the
early 1800s authors Josiah Priest and Ethan Smith wrote and published books
near where JS lived that predate and certainly influenced the BoM
Free info if anyone is interested.
Dear Dr. Glenn A. Tabor, Jr.,
Merry Christmas from Outline Bible! There's a Christmas gift for you at
http://www.outlinebible.org/ChristmasStory.html
It's everything you need to preach on the Christmas story from Luke 2:1-24,
taken directly from The Preacher'
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Not a fair deal, because the BOM is so much bigger than the book I was
offering you.
David, You are right about that not being a
fair deal. So, since none of you have ta
Glenn, I think you’re a jolly old elf at Christmas. Izzy
In all seriousness, I would like to ask Marlin a question. Is this a sin to give out Christmas presents to these children? We tell them these are Christmas presents from Christians in America. We also tell them this is in honor of Christ
Click here: CNN.com - Marvel Comics to unveil gay gunslinger - Dec. 9, 2002
Glenn, You are so much more palatable when
you have been taking your medication. Thanks. Izzy
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Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002
8:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [TruthT
Glenn, I think you’re a jolly old
elf at Christmas. Izzy
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Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002
7:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cowards
There are 2 "Jesus L
TOTALLY COOL! THANKS
GLENN. IZZY
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Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002
7:04 AM
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Subject: [TruthTalk] USAF 4 Star
Speaks Out]
I don't know if this is a valid
DAVEH:
I'm not sure how you think I'm manipulating you. What is it that I have
said that bothers you? Do I make you feel insecure? No way you could do that! ROFL! Or do you just feel uncomfortable discussing religion with somebody
who has vastly different beliefs? Give me
.
Joseph Smith is not the
Lord. DAVEH: I never said he was. He was simply a
prophet of the Lord.
That is not true. He was a
false prophet.
What on earth makes you
think you need more than the Lord revealed in His word?
DAVEH:
As Perry suggested, there
But I don't have a motorcycle to ride on when I wear one of your jackets.
:-) Send motorcycle too. Better yet, I will pick one out locally and you can wire them the money. LOL
> Did I read what I thought you wrote in a recent post? You said
> you are supporting a whole bunch of African(?
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 00:55:14 -0500 "David
Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:>"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us
our >sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." (1 John
1:9)
>>.. in Jesus Christ are we righteous or unrighteous?>
unrighteous
ROFL
Do I make you feel insecure?
Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ShieldsFamily wrote:
DAVEH: As I understand it, polytheism is the pagan worship of pagan gods. Though there may be many gods, to us (LDS) there is one supreme God to worship, our Heavenly Father, AND his Son Jesus Christ who is our Lord and Savior. There
In the past Mormons have said we need more "revelation" because Christians are divided on understanding the Bible. This new Mormon "revelation" clears up the Bible so all can be in agreement. THE PROBLEM IS, THE MORMON "REVELATION" HAS CREATED MORE DIVISIONS. IT HAS EVEN CREATED DIVISIONS WITHI
Thank you. I hope you mailed it overnight. I will have trouble sleeping until I get it. Maybe I can take a pill or two to get me through the waiting period.
:-) I like those little blue ones. :-)
BTW Brother Glenn.I mailed your Christmas Present/Jacket today along with a suitable
DAVEH:
> Izzy...I'll make you a deal. IF you promise
> to read the BofM, I will send you a copy for free.
Not a fair deal, because the BOM is so much bigger than the book I was
offering you. Furthermore, the BOM is not the smoking gun which demolishes
the foundation of Izzy's brand of Christ
One that will surprise you is "fire". Ask any 2 year old what fire is and they can tell you. Ask a Mormon what fire is and they will tell you something entirely different. :-)
Blainer) I think I hear you saying that we throw you curves all the time
when you are up at bat. I guess we need to
Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
michael douglas wrote:
What fuels my drive is when we see Bible passages that directly contradict the LDS revelations. In fact I was a non-participating observer on TT for over two years (well I briefly contributed to one topic) before being unable to be
Blainer--No I am way IN; you are way OUT! :-) "Our image" means "Father,
Son, and Holy Spirit." Izzy
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Izzy,
I like your attitude, 'cause it is soo way out! I like someone who is
either v
In a message dated 12/12/2002 2:09:45 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Maybe that is the problem - a prophet has to pass the test to be considered valid. Far too much of JS prophecys don't pass that test! Laura
Joseph Smith is not the Lord. DAVEH: I never said he was. He was
This is the whole problem We base our beliefs on the Word of God - you base your beliefs on the vision of a Sinful man! Laura
DAVEH: I am surprised that you don't still understand my perspective either, Glenn. It seems there are a few TTers who think that LDS theology is BASED on specific pas
Here's another article from Christianity Today. Laura
Temple Square Face-off
Baptist evangelist irks LDS, but court is on his side.
By John W. Kennedy | posted 12/9/2002
Kurt Van Gorden, a Southern Baptist pastor, has been distributing Bible tracts in downtown Salt Lake City for 26 years. And
There are 2 "Jesus Loves Me Homes" in India. They take in homeless children. My wife and I try to support 50 of them. And at Christmas we give them a small Christmas present, and a set of clothes.
Blainer) I know, you make that clear in each and every post you write.
But you will live to say
I've been told I don't take TT serious enough. I hear something, I pop off a few misspelled words while talking to someone on the phone and let her rip. :-)
Hey, am I take this group far too seriously?
Perry
I don't know if this is a valid author, but it has some truth.
Subject: USAF 4 Star Speaks Out]
This pretty much covers it.
For those of you who don't know who General Hawley is, he is a newly retired 4-star general who commanded Air Combat Command. These are good words and true.
ShieldsFamily wrote:
I
do not think that DaveL and the other mormons are sincere.
DAVEH:
I'm sorry you feel that way, Izzy.
Somehow
I dont think you are sorry at all.
DAVEH:
Believe as you wish, Izzy. I can only speak my mind, whether you
believe it or not.
I
feel manipulated whene
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Izzy,
>
> I like your attitude, 'cause it is soo way out! I like someone who is
> either very hot or very cold, and you are like an iceberg, when it comes
> to Mormons. But I can deal with that. BTW, how do you guys explain the
> plural words used in Genesis, chapt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Did I read what I thought you wrote in a recent post? You said
> you are supporting a whole bunch of African(?) Mexican(?) kids?
DAVEH: If I could get Brother Glenn to pay for those jackets he's been begging for,
and I've been sending...he could be supporti
ShieldsFamily wrote:
DAVEH:
As I understand it, polytheism is the pagan worship of pagan gods.
Though there may be many gods, to us (LDS) there is one supreme God to
worship, our Heavenly Father, AND his Son Jesus Christ who is our Lord
and Savior. Therefore, I would not think to conside
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He
says one thing in a previous post, and now denies it. Why put Matt.
16:19 in a post to show eternal marriage and later on deny it?
DAVEH: I am surprised that you don't still understand my perspective
either, Glenn. It seems there are a few TTers who think that LDS
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