[TruthTalk] Try this one, Blaine.

2003-12-19 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Blaine wrote: Perry, your messages go to an  attachment whenever I try to reply tothem.  Yours are the only ones that do that.  Any idea why? Blaine, I have not had anyone else report this particular problem, and I have no idea why they are doing that. Rather than hit "reply" on your last post I gr

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
Perry, your messages go to an attachment whenever I try to reply to them. Yours are the only ones that do that. Any idea why? On a short leash? Hmmm, well she has a healthy sense of self esteem. I prefer her that way. BlaineRB: -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:49:03 -0800 "irebukeu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Blaine: > Is that a promise? I would love that!! The last name > is BORROWMAN. > > Ruben: > Done. BlaineRB: Uh oh!! Me and my big mouth. I may end up being a Bishop over this. LOL > > Blain

Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 Dead part of gospel?

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:41:42 -0600 "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > See John 4:24. God is a Spirit. > Terry **BlaineRB: Terry, I am also a spirit. Just as you are too. This has nothing to say about what else we are--our bodies are the temples of our spirit selves. As Jesus s

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-19 Thread Charles Perry Locke
On a short leash, Blaine? > >Blaine: >As for my "lack of Bible knowledge,"  as you may remember, I was pressed >for time (my wife was circling the block, and was on her fifth or sixth >circle, and staring daggers at me--I was afraid to get into an extended >conversation w

Re: [TruthTalk] Will we be gods?

2003-12-19 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Mormon myth: "As god is man shall become." Sounds like the Mormons expect to be equal to their god at the very least. >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Will we be gods? >Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:12:21 -0700 > >BlaineRB:  I

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-19 Thread irebukeu
Blaine: Is that a promise? I would love that!! The last name is BORROWMAN. Ruben: Done. Blaine: As for my "lack of Bible knowledge," as you may remember, I was pressed for time (my wife was circling the block, and was on her fifth or sixth circle, and staring daggers at m

Re: [TruthTalk] Will we be gods?

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
BlaineRB: I THINK we agree here, but MAYBE NOT No authoritative Mormon ever taught THAT we intend to be equal with God, or the trinity, or whatever you choose to call it. We believe that Jesus Christ as the SON is subordinate to the FATHER, and that we are and always will be subordinate to Both.

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:22:38 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** Actually Judy, from my point of view, it seems you are doing > the > same think (I misspelled "thing" but decided the new word fit > better)--reading your own interpretation into it. Did you get y

Re: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
Hi Dean, You wrote, "Are you really worried about our relationship DaveH-or is this an > edge to use in this debate-to confuse truth. Must you always > manipulate some young ignorant Christian to defend you-is that a > smile I see on your face?" I think it is time for me to say to you that Ju

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 06:55:13 -0800 "irebukeu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Blaine, I did find that post of our meeting each other at your > temple, at > the present time I have well over 600 E-mails that I have not even > opened, > with several thousand open and working on. So I did not know

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
BlaineRB AMEN!!! On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:47:00 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Dean wrote: > > I am Commanded to love a believer in Christ - > > not those of the world nor wordily things- > > Brother Dean, you know we think alike in many ways. Here is a > passage > for you t

[TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-19 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***   Actually Judy, from my point of view, it seems you are doing the same think  (I misspelled "thing" but decided the new word fit better)--reading your own interpretation into it.  Did you get your interpretation from your minister, or is this your very own origina

[TruthTalk] Will we be gods?

2003-12-19 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***Hi Judy, It is always a delight to read your stuff, but you seem to be speaking more from traditional Christianity than from the original teachings of the Bible. In Genesis (first book, second page, so you need not search too hard)ch1 verse 26 it uses the plural to tel

[TruthTalk] Will we be gods?

2003-12-19 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Kevin Deegan writes: The scripture says we shall be LIKE him. It does not say we shall be equal to him! That is what Mormonism teaches. There was another fellow that taught this too. His name is SATAN. Gen 3:5 "ye shall be AS gods"   Blainer:  Satan does tell the truth

[TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-19 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  $ Judy why is it so hard for you to understand what I am saying- I am speaking of being in their presence for a extended length of time- Yes we must be a wittiness to the world-one doesn't hide a light under the bed we have to let our light shine-to a

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 05:53:44 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > From: Blaine R Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Ruben wrote: Then we arrive at Salt Lake city in the same fashion, > where we exhort those that have perverted God, teaching that he was > once > like us.or we will be gods.

Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 Dead part of gospel?

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 05:51:16 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Was it a ceremony, in the Temple? > A Temple sealing to a man? I thought they stopped those years ago. > > Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > DAVEH: Forgive me for jumping into this discussion, Kevin. I don't >

Re: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
BlaineRB: "For envy they had delivered him, . . . " Matt 27:18 On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:54:26 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > - Original Message - > From: > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12/17/2003 8:32:53 AM > Subject: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave > >

Re: [TruthTalk] Will we be gods?

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 06:39:24 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The Mormons on TT are probably aware that Joseph Smith was heavily > into Freemasonry among other things and this is where the lie > originates > because Freemasonry today represents the ancient mystery religions - > In > his book M

Re: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
Hi Dean, Hey is this really what you mean? Not to be antagonistic, but this sounds like YOU have a devil in YOU. Dave is always so calm, and collected, and REASOBABLE, above all!! I get the feeling you are frustrated because . . . ? BlainerB On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:45:14 -0500 "Dean Moore

Re: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:18:28 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > - Original Message - > From: > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12/17/2003 5:58:28 AM > Subject: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke? > > BlainerB: Luke 6:27 "BUT I SAY UNTO YOU WHICH HEAR: LOVE YOUR ENEMI

Re: [TruthTalk] Will we be gods?

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 05:46:45 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The scripture says we shall be LIKE him. > It does not say we shall be equal to him! That is what Mormonism > teaches. > > There was another fellow that taught this too. > His name is SATAN. > Gen 3:5 "ye shall

Re: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
The Bible commands me to REBUKE FALSE TEACHERS! I can not let them go on in error. Who would let them alone, knowing of a horrible Hell they are headed for? What I want to know is why do they keep coming back for more? Dave what other reason than they know that I have the TRUTH, keeps them coming b

Re: [TruthTalk] In the Style of DumptyH

2003-12-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
DaveH Perry brings up a good point. Can you show us any other, usage of the word damnation in a similar sense to how LDS want to use it? How can you take DAM & Nation put them together and come up with stoppage of progression?Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DavidH wrote:    "Fir

RE: [TruthTalk] *****Rebuke should be specific-Yes I agree.

2003-12-19 Thread David Miller
Dean wrote: > I consider the fact the DaveH is allowed to dwell among > the brethren as sin, David. To me it is a clear violation > of the Bible-as it also was to J. Wesley. It still seems to me that you are thinking of this list like a church or someone's home where we all live together. Many

RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
David, I was wondering how much interaction you have had with LDS.? How well would you say you know their doctrine? As far as the Doctrine question. False doctrine sends people to Hell Gal 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lascivi

RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
Judy: You are mixing up the world and the Church Dean. 2 Thess 3:14,15 is for the Church (brothers/sisters). If God dosen't want us to overcome in the midst of unbelievers then why didn't he just take us all on to glory just as soon as we became born again? Why leave us here as a remnant in the

[TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-19 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Hi Judy.  I was thinking to take a break from all the activity on TruthTalk today, but I can't help myself.  I have to respond to some of what you have written.  I hope things do slow down a little on TruthTalk because I can't keep up with it all.  I d

Re: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-19 Thread ttxpress
  On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:42:14 -0800 "irebukeu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> Ttxpress writes:> (but) the connotation, ff., is intimidation:> > Ruben responds:> That is a quotation, if you have a problem with that you must take > it up..   i'm takin' it up with you--you wrote it precisely t

RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-19 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/19/2003 11:28:22 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right. From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't think TT should exist in this form-I believe there should be limits on the length of time one of another doc

RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
Dean, I have found that the big Liberals that I come in contact with in this community have a rabid hatred of all things truly good (such as family values and President Bush for example.) So I have an inkling of what you are up against.  Would you mind explaining what “warnings” are there?

RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-19 Thread David Miller
Dean wrote: > * No Izzy I don't think TT should exist in this form- > I believe there should be limits on the length of time > one of another doctrine should be allowed to stay here, > 2 thess 3:14. Those that walk disorderly are to be warned > (admonish)...and have no company with him- This was

[TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-19 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't think TT should exist in this form-I believe there should be limits on the length of time one of another doctrine should be allowed to stay here,  2 thess 3:14. Those that walk disorderly are to be warned (admonish)...and have no company

RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-19 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/18/2003 9:59:03 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right. Brother Dean,   Okay, I’m again asking you to spell this out in plain language.  Are you saying that TT is satan’s domain, and that David M

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-19 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/18/2003 9:44:27 PM Subject: Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke? whose sin did the Ap Paul 'stand against'; in the NT, how did he go about it? Dean writes: All manner of sin and he went about it by publicly declaring

RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-19 Thread David Miller
Hi Judy. I was thinking to take a break from all the activity on TruthTalk today, but I can't help myself. I have to respond to some of what you have written. I hope things do slow down a little on TruthTalk because I can't keep up with it all. I do have some work to do around here. :-) If you

[TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-19 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>David Miller wrote:>> Is sin the object of God's wrath or are people the object of God's wrath?   Judy wrote:> God's wrath is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness > of men (so it is against men's sin)   I feel like you are

RE: [TruthTalk] *****Rebuke should be specific-Yes I agree.

2003-12-19 Thread Dean Moore
> [Original Message] > From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 12/18/2003 9:09:50 PM > Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] *Rebuke should be specific-Yes I agree. > > Dean wrote: > > I am sorry you cannot see that and as I haven't made > > it to heaven yet I will hav

Re: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-19 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/18/2003 11:39:11 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke? thx jt.   'ff.'  means, basically,'as follows' --a common Eng. abbrev. :)   (i think it's in DavidMs list of such abbreviations at http://innglory.org)   ftr,

[TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-19 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: "irebukeu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Judy, if I may let me try to expound and clarify on this public rebukingwhile preaching because I suspect you might have a chip on your shoulderregarding it and it might help others too.     **Thank you for your intent but what would make you think I have

[TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-19 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: "irebukeu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Ttxpress writes:(but) the connotation, ff., is intimidation:   Ruben responds: What is ff?   Judy: Gary explained to me that ff means 'as follows' so he is saying that this scripture (2 Cor 5:11 "Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men") t