Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject)

2004-06-03 Thread Dave
Lance Muir wrote: 1. yes 2. no 3. no DAVEH:  Thanx for your direct answer, Lance.  May I question you a bit further. 1) Do you believe all men will have the opportunity to accept Jesus? 2) Do you believe there are any mortals who do not get that chance while in mortality?

Re: [TruthTalk] Divine Justice

2004-06-03 Thread Dave
Judy Taylor wrote: From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> daveh writes: On the other hand.if only one person unjustly suffers the wrath of Godis that not something you would find interesting?  Does God actually unjustly torture those who don't have the opportunity to learn of Je

Re: [TruthTalk] Those who have never heard

2004-06-03 Thread Dave
Judy Taylor wrote: From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> terry writes: He has the overall view, not us. So the real question is not what will happen to those who have not heard.   judyt: Amen Terry; anyone who knows God personally would not be so suspicious of his motives DAVEH:  I'm n

RE: [TruthTalk] (no subject)

2004-06-03 Thread Slade Henson
Perry. Can you explain to me why you believe this particular passage in Romans is referring to the Gospel? -- slade -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke Sent: Thursday, 03 June, 2004 09:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [

Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject)

2004-06-03 Thread Charles Perry Locke
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Charles Perry Locke wrote: In Romans 1:17ff Paul says "The just shall live by faith. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is ma

Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject)

2004-06-03 Thread Charles Perry Locke
DAVEH wrote: ??? How can you perceive it as a second chance IF they never had a first chance prior??? Let me ask it this way, Laura..do you think God gives everybody a FIRST chance to hear the gospel and accept Jesus? IOW..do you think there are any mortals who never had the chanc

Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject)

2004-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
1. yes 2. no 3. no - Original Message - From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: June 03, 2004 10:37 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject) > > > Charles Perry Locke wrote: > > > In Romans 1:17ff Paul says "The just shall live by faith. For the > > wrath of God is r

Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject)

2004-06-03 Thread Dave
Charles Perry Locke wrote: In Romans 1:17ff Paul says "The just shall live by faith. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath

Re: [TruthTalk] Those who have never heard

2004-06-03 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Perry From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Those who have never heard Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 07:13:20 -0700 DAVEH: To me it is a very real question, because I don't believe God behaves the way many Christians think he does in re

Re: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ

2004-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
so, when misunderstood by anyone, you attribute this to Satan???- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 03, 2004 09:59 Subject: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ Your question was "When it does not then, to what do we att

Re: [TruthTalk] Those who have never heard

2004-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
No, he doesn't. 'through a glass darkly' - Original Message - From: Dave To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 03, 2004 10:02 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Those who have never heard Lance Muir wrote: just don't know (mystery) is a decent 'fall-back' position. DAVEH? 

Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject)

2004-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
if they do not hear from US they will hear from HIM. - Original Message - From: Dave To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 03, 2004 09:59 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/2/2004 11:34:28 PM Central D

Re: [TruthTalk] Those who have never heard

2004-06-03 Thread Dave
Terry Clifton wrote: Dave wrote: Terry Clifton wrote: Just a few things that maybe we should keep in mind when we begin to speculate concerning those who have never had the opportunity to accept or reject the Gospel: God's ways are higher than our ways. We do not understand every detail conce

Re: [TruthTalk] Those who have never heard

2004-06-03 Thread Dave
Lance Muir wrote: just don't know (mystery) is a decent 'fall-back' position. DAVEH?  What don't you know, Lance?   And.why do you feel mystery is an acceptable fall back position?  Doesn't Paul infer that the gospel answers mysteries? Dave wrote: Terry Clif

Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject)

2004-06-03 Thread Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/2/2004 11:34:28 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH:  Ignore for a moment your concern for a second chance after death.  (That is a different discussion, Laura.)  Do you believe those who do not have the chance

[TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ

2004-06-03 Thread Judy Taylor
Your question was "When it does not then, to what do we attribute this prevailing misconception of our meaning?" My answer is "We attribute all misconception to the father of lies and his minions this is their ministry exclusively..."   From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ??SER

[TruthTalk] Those who have never heard

2004-06-03 Thread Judy Taylor
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>terry writes: He has the overall view, not us. So the real question is not what will happen to those who have not heard.   judyt: Amen Terry; anyone who knows God personally would not be so suspicious of his motives that they would have to change His Word.   dav

Re: [TruthTalk] Those who have never heard

2004-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
just don't know (mystery) is a decent 'fall-back' position. - Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: June 03, 2004 08:53 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Those who have never heard > Dave wrote: > > > > > > > Terry Clifton wrote: > > > >> Just

Re: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ

2004-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
??SERIOUSLY please translate this message as it relates to my question.- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 03, 2004 08:18 Subject: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ     <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: We'v

Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject)

2004-06-03 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 6/2/2004 11:34:28 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH:  Ignore for a moment your concern for a second chance after death.  (That is a different discussion, Laura.)  Do you believe those who do not have the chance to accept Jesus while in mortality, will h

Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject)

2004-06-03 Thread Charles Perry Locke
In Romans 1:17ff Paul says "The just shall live by faith. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the

Re: [TruthTalk] Those who have never heard

2004-06-03 Thread Terry Clifton
Dave wrote: Terry Clifton wrote: Just a few things that maybe we should keep in mind when we begin to speculate concerning those who have never had the opportunity to accept or reject the Gospel: God's ways are higher than our ways. We do not understand every detail concerning His plan for man

[TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ

2004-06-03 Thread Judy Taylor
    <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: We've all misunderstood what someone has meant when spoken to. We've all similarly been misunderstood, as to our meaning, when speaking to others. On occasion this may entail 'deception'. When it does not then, to what do we attribute this prevailing misconcep

[TruthTalk] Divine Justice

2004-06-03 Thread Judy Taylor
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> daveh writes: On the other hand.if only one person unjustly suffers the wrath of Godis that not something you would find interesting?  Does God actually unjustly torture those who don't have the opportunity to learn of Jesus?  If find it intriguing that

Re: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ

2004-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
We've all misunderstood what someone has meant when spoken to. We've all similarly been misunderstood, as to our meaning, when speaking to others. On occasion this may entail 'deception'. When it does not then, to what do we attribute this prevailing misconception of our meaning?   -

Re: [TruthTalk] Those who have never heard

2004-06-03 Thread Dave
Terry Clifton wrote: Just a few things that maybe we should keep in mind when we begin to speculate concerning those who have never had the opportunity to accept or reject the Gospel: God's ways are higher than our ways. We do not understand every detail concerning His plan for mankind, not wa