[TruthTalk] Tax Freedom Day

2004-09-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
g, Actually Tax Freedom Day was at its latest day ever on May 2, 2004. (Guess who just finished 8 years of taxation on America?) This year it came 21 days earlier (guess who cut taxes for you and me?). Amazing proof that the Democrats are out to CONFISCATE YOUR MONEY, and the Republicans

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The Faith of Jesus Christ-Gal 3:1-4:11

2004-09-07 Thread Lance Muir
I think so, yes. Honestly, I'm still sorting out how the former (faithfulness of Jesus) encompasses the latter (our participation). Many of the posts recently seem to 'detach and separate'. We need to be thinking in ways which are PERSONAL EMBODIED. We indwell and are indwelt by HIM.

RE: [TruthTalk] Re:The Faith of Jesus Christ-Gal 3:1-4:11

2004-09-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Lance, what are you saying below? I find your language impossible to decipher at times. What does encompasses mean? Are you saying you wonder how we can learn faithfulness from Jesus? Or are you saying you are wondering how Jesus has inputed his faithfulness to us (meaning we just have to

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The Faith of Jesus Christ-Gal 3:1-4:11

2004-09-07 Thread Lance Muir
Iz:Participation. Read Gal 3:1-4:11. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 07, 2004 06:54 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Re:The Faith of Jesus Christ-Gal 3:1-4:11 Lance, what are you saying below? I find your language

RE: [TruthTalk] Re:The Faith of Jesus Christ-Gal 3:1-4:11

2004-09-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Lance, Explanation. You never provide one. Typical psychobabble: impossible to apprehend. No wonder you and g get along so well. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 5:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The Faith of Jesus Christ-Gal 3:1-4:11

2004-09-07 Thread Lance Muir
Iz:Brother John wrote a couple ofexcellent posts upon return from his 'holiday' weekend. Why not focus on those? No 'psychobabble' there. You can only speak from within your existing framework of thought. Me too. So, just think on 'the epistemological relevance of the homoousion' as that

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The Faith of Jesus Christ-Gal 3:1-4:11

2004-09-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 9/7/2004 3:38:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think so, yes. Honestly, I'm still sorting out how the former (faithfulness of Jesus) encompasses the latter (our participation). Many of the posts recently seem to 'detach and separate'. We need to be

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The Faith of Jesus Christ-Gal 3:1-4:11

2004-09-07 Thread Judy Taylor
Izzy what I hear himsaying is that there is no "objective truth" everything is relative ie "relative to your existing framework of thought" So we all have our own "truth" and so we must adjust to everyone's individual frameworks - and "psychobabble" is an excellent descriptive word for

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The Faith of Jesus Christ-Gal 3:1-4:11

2004-09-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 9/7/2004 4:04:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Iz:Participation. Read Gal 3:1-4:11. Yes -- and Gal 3:26 -27 has much to do with this discussion. At least as I see the passage, it is saying that we are children of God by faith as we immerse ourselves into

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The Faith of Jesus Christ-Gal 3:1-4:11

2004-09-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 9/7/2004 3:38:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Many of the posts recently seem to 'detach and separate'. We need to be thinking in ways which are PERSONAL EMBODIED. In view of Jere 31:31-33 I could not agree more. J

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The Faith of Jesus Christ-Gal 3:1-4:11

2004-09-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 9/7/2004 6:10:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 'the epistemological relevance of the homoousion' as that is what this is all about. I just quoted this to my wife -- awesome -;) JD

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The Faith of Jesus Christ-Gal 3:1-4:11

2004-09-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 9/7/2004 6:19:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Izzy what I hear him saying is that there is no "objective truth" everything is relative ie "relative to your existing framework of thought" So we all have our own "truth" and so we must adjust to everyone's

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The Faith of Jesus Christ-Gal 3:1-4:11

2004-09-07 Thread Judy Taylor
jt: Basically I have never changed my mind about truth John; though my understanding has deepened as I study God's word. Lance, Jonathan, and now you appear to be so caught up in some ethereal concept of Christ that I can not relate to. My Jesus is the Word of God and this Word has not ever

RE: [TruthTalk] Re:The Faith of Jesus Christ-Gal 3:1-4:11

2004-09-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Thats the scary parthes starting to sound a lot like you. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 7:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The Faith of Jesus Christ-Gal 3:1-4:11

RE: [TruthTalk] Re:The Faith of Jesus Christ-Gal 3:1-4:11

2004-09-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Jt, I knew that. Exactly. But you cant get the man to admit it. (He thinks hes talking over our heads.) Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 7:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The

Re: [TruthTalk] The End of Truthtalk

2004-09-07 Thread Knpraise
Does this describe anyone on this list? J WHY MESSIANIC JEWS? Rachmiel Frydiand            To ask why we are Jews is to ask why a bagel is a bagel.  A bagel tastes like a bagel and not like a doughnut, although one bagelhater defined a bagel as a doughnut dipped in cement.    Now a

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The Faith of Jesus Christ-Gal 3:1-4:11

2004-09-07 Thread Judy Taylor
On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 10:35:21 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jt: Basically I have never changed my mind about truth John; though my understanding has deepened as I study God's word. Lance, Jonathan, and now you appear to be so caught up in some ethereal concept of Christ that I can

RE: [TruthTalk] Five Million

2004-09-07 Thread michael douglas
Michael D: Well, what do you know?!?!?! Trinidad and Tobago are inder a warning re Ivan. It has concerned me alot. I have been fighting it and praying against. I am doing all that I can to stave off the danger. I'll be continuing as long as the threat looms. I am looking to God for mercy on our

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The Faith of Jesus Christ-Gal 3:1-4:11

2004-09-07 Thread Lance Muir
Iz:C'mon guys (gals). I didn't initiate this post. Wha'sappenin'? - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 07, 2004 11:04 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Re:The Faith of Jesus Christ-Gal 3:1-4:11 Oh no, Lance is splitting

RE: [TruthTalk] Five Million

2004-09-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, Michaelwe will pray with you, Brother. Please let us know at least daily how you are there. How close is Ivan? I heard it has gone from a 4 to a 2. True? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of michael douglas Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The Faith of Jesus Christ-Gal 3:1-4:11

2004-09-07 Thread Judy Taylor
Bi-location? What is this? We are to be conformed to the "image of Christ" Not the image of Lance jt On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 10:04:10 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh no, Lance is splitting and multiplying!!! Yikes! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Five Million

2004-09-07 Thread Judy Taylor
Hi Michael D, I'm with you, that is with you in the line for mercy right now. It's not easyto know what is going on behind what we see and God hasn't given me a Word of Knowledge or Wisdom about these storms thus far. We can assure our hearts before Him though. He knows where we live and

Re: [TruthTalk] Five Million

2004-09-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 9/7/2004 7:56:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael D: Well, what do you know?!?!?! Trinidad and Tobago are inder a warning re Ivan. It has concerned me alot. I have been fighting it and praying against. I am doing all that I can to stave off the

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The Faith of Jesus Christ-Gal 3:1-4:11

2004-09-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 9/7/2004 8:11:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bi-location? What is this? We are to be conformed to the "image of Christ" Not the image of Lance jt Me thinks you need to take a pill. Lance

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The Faith of Jesus Christ-Gal 3:1-4:11

2004-09-07 Thread Lance Muir
John-boy (Mr. 'speak in the name of) says 'take a pill' on my behalf so I concur John (It rains on the just and, the unjust) Smithson - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 07, 2004 11:23 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]

Re: [TruthTalk] Kruger

2004-09-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Okay, I know you are all just hanging on the edge of your seats waiting to hear my pronouncements Re: Kruger. Anyway, perhaps at least I wont receive the devastating silence that I did on my LAST book report: Some of what Kruger wrote in The Great Dance was nice. Like, There has never

RE: [TruthTalk] from O'Reilley to you

2004-09-07 Thread Slade Henson
I have no idea from scripture as to why you have written the above, expecailly that last thought -- "they're 'in' as a result." The Jew and the Gentile are the same in the sight of God in terms of salvation's walk. They have no special consideration in that regard. Agreed. I am merely

RE: [TruthTalk] Five Million

2004-09-07 Thread Slade Henson
Sadly, more than ZERO people died from Charley and even more from Frances. The track for Ivan has been determined more southern than the GIF file given by G, so it actually poses a greater threat to both Trinidad and Florida than before. Please see the updated GIF forecast.

RE: [TruthTalk] Five Million

2004-09-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Today I heard that 9 have died as a result of Frances. Seems like a whole lot more were lost due to Charley. Lets pray protection for the Caribbean and all inhabited areas. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Tuesday, September

RE: [TruthTalk] from O'Reilley to you

2004-09-07 Thread Slade Henson
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Terry CliftonSent: Monday, September 06, 2004 10:29 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] from O'Reilley to you Slade wrote: Another interesting point: the Torah was never given as an

Re: [TruthTalk] Tax Freedom Day

2004-09-07 Thread ttxpress
in the kingdom of God no economic bubbles burst On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 04:23:03 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..Tax Freedom Day was at its latest day ever on May 2, 2004.. when the boom and bubble pushed tax burdens to a record high, ||

Re: [TruthTalk] from O'Reilley to you

2004-09-07 Thread Terry Clifton
Slade Henson wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 10:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] from O'Reilley to you Slade wrote:

Re: [TruthTalk] from O'Reilley to you

2004-09-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 9/7/2004 2:11:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have no idea from scripture as to why you have written the above, expecailly that last thought -- "they're 'in' as a result." The Jew and the Gentile are the same in the sight of God in terms of salvation's

Re: [TruthTalk] Kruger

2004-09-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 9/7/2004 12:43:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, I know you are all just hanging on the edge of your seats waiting to hear my pronouncements Re: Kruger. Anyway, perhaps at least I wont receive the devastating silence that I did on my LAST book