DAVEH: Is that a typo, Izzy? Did you instead mean to say.
Why
are people like me YO-YOs?
:-D
ShieldsFamily wrote:
LOL!
Another news flash. What
are people like me IYO? iz
--
~~~
Dave Hansen
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And they never will know Christ so long as they are
looking to Dylan and his own
personal confusion for wisdom -rather than to the
ingrafted Word which is able to
save their souls - for as
one of his concert attending fans writes:
"Bob Dylan Once
said, when commenting on one of his
Oh DaveH, You do like to walk on the edge at times
don't you? ...
If I were Izzy I might send
you this attachment :) jt
DAVEH: Is that a typo, Izzy? Did you instead mean
to say.Why are people like
me YO-YOs?:-D
ShieldsFamily wrote:
LOL! Another
news flash.
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 14:37:42 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
another more
intensedeclaration of independence--ppl like youdidn't lasta
week in the
rigors of certain
seminarys--that's bec JC even his best servantscouldn'treach them
evenwhile
they'd die tryin'
jt:
God has given them over to a REPROBATE mind!ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46216
Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
who wrote
this?
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 04:40:11 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
why as though living in the world do you
subject yourselves
to (Seminary) regulations
what did he
say?
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 03:34:51 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"Bob Dylan Once said..." (Or something along
those lines),
Good one, jt!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Judy Taylor
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005
1:44 AM
To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: [TruthTalk] Musical
Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself
Oh DaveH, You do like to
No. J iz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dave Hansen
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005
1:19 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical
Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself
DAVEH: Is that a typo, Izzy?
-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 10:31:51 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Humanity of Jesus
On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 06:59:52 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ah, an
Do you know the difference between vocation and avocation?
JD-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 13:10:06 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] fyi~g
Serving the Lord - jt
On Fri, 9 Sep
there'sa
babylonian ring to it..
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:37:35 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
who wrote
this?
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 04:40:11 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
why as though living in the world do you
subject yourselves
to (Seminary)
5yrs in Seminary is bound to leave ataint is an ignorant statement of fantasy. The people you love to quote all have religious or "seminary" background. I just do not understand why you fear and oppose education. DM has a graduate degree -- so he is "tainted" for that reason ?
JD
Could judy or linda give us a definition of judgmentalism that would help us to distinguish such remarks from "loving" or helpful criticism?
Jd
-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 18:17:08 -0500Subject: RE:
somenever
know Christ even while they're lookingat Scripture
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 03:34:51 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..[ppl] never will know Christ so long as they are
looking to Dylan
Well G, it's like Clairol hair coloring - noone seems
to know for sure
and the best one can hope for is some kind of
speculation.
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:40:58 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
what did he
say?
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 03:34:51 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
profoundly
it'sDylan who is serving the Lord
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:52:40 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Do you know the difference between vocation and avocation?
JD-Original
Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc:
it's your quote,
your effort to discredit certain ppl/ideas, it's your responsibility
which
actually requires some education
unless you prefer
yourignorance--isn't it safer to say nowthat in your view
yourwisdom's rooted in your ignorance?
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:27:08 -0400 Judy Taylor
Are they scriptural JD? Chapter?
Verse?
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:52:40 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Do you know the difference between vocation and avocation?
JD
From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.com
Serving the Lord - jt
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 10:54:35 -0600
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:51:10 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
5yrs in Seminary is bound to leave ataint
is an ignorant statement of
fantasy. The people you love
to quote all have religious or "seminary"
background.
jt: I don't think so JD, you are referring
Would "cemetary" have made it clearer?
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:53:15 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
there'sa
babylonian ring to it..
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:37:35 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
who wrote
this?
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 04:40:11 -0400 Judy Taylor
If you will first give your definition of spiritual
discernment JD.
Speaking the truth is love, and love is speaking the
truth - something
that you call judgmental if it is not in line with your
belief which is seldom
the case Not yelling fire!! when you see someone in
a burning
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 09:00:32 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
profoundly
it'sDylan who is serving the Lord
Really G? What
did Jesus have to say about those who turn
back after putting
their hand to the plow?
Israel's wars Dylan's muse, at a
glance
1967: Six Day War
Dylan finds
Here we go - position, pride, fleshly achievement ...
this is what nauseates me (JD take note)
It is the circumcision who worship God in the Spirit,
rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have NO
CONFIDENCE in the flesh who make it "g" - from your
exalted vantage point it would be those
with wisdom
:-D :-D :-D
Judy Taylor wrote:
Oh DaveH, You do like to walk on the edge
at times don't you? ...
If I were Izzy I might send you this attachment :) jt
DAVEH: Is that a typo, Izzy? Did you instead mean to say.
Why are
people like me YO-YOs?
:-D
The high minded man must care more for the truth than for what people
think. -Aristotle, philosopher (384-322 BCE)
--
~~~
Dave Hansen
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http://www.langlitz.com
~~~
If you wish to receive
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JOKESTER,
I left the topic line in tact - a post from Linda Shields.
She had asked if a certain "prophecy" was from God. I answered "no."
I suppose there will be many who will see that "prophecy" as one from God. The question is "why?"
And it appears to me that the answer is "because it fits." Over
NOTHING to criticize here.
- Original Message -
From:
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: September 10, 2005 14:14
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Prophecy To
America
I left the topic line in tact - a
post from Linda Shields.
..JCs lineage as
son of David's, offspring of a Jewsh girl who educated himher culture is
offensive to ppl like youpartly, perhaps mainly, bec your own
choicesare to esteem (racial) ignorance of them,too, and call it
'wisdom'..
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:41:51 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
tell us
whatBob Dylansaid
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 16:40:22 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Where did you learn to cut and paste Gary? - your
skill at this is as great asany I've
seen so far. You manage to muddle everything to the
point that noone knows who said
what
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:55:43 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..JCs lineage as
son of David's, offspring of a Jewsh girl who educated himher culture is
offensive to ppl like youpartly, perhaps mainly, bec your own
choicesare to esteem (racial) ignorance of them,too, and call it
I'm not interested in what he said Gary - from what
I've been reading this is your forte.
I want to read words that are Spirit and Life - rather
than the confused ramblings of one
Robert Zimmerman whose bio calls hima Jewish
minstrel.
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:57:05 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
..who wrote the
dualistic descriptions, ff.--there is no evidence they have to do with Bob Dylan
himself, in partic none from _Infidels_, the heart of a Jewish
Americancultural leaderfollowing closer than ppl can handle, the
Messiah
1978: Camp David Accords, Israel trades Sinai for peace
This whole scenario is not
that far removed fromArabs whoposition themselves according to who
is descended from
Mohammad. Our son's
newneighboris an Army man just back from3yrs in Saudi Arabia.
He and his wife shipped
their two Saudi cats back
along with their household goods. Kennedy
JC is according to
the "flesh"
nothin' wrong with
that--Godacc to Mary's flesh and Joseph's DNA is biblical--one understands
them witheyes embedded in a skull on a body which God made and
loves--he himselfwilling to be suchflesh--the kind that
Marydisciplined to pray while he thinks
as it warns,
numerous Gentiles often stumble over JC
in this case
someone'd rather likenthe Messiah's lineageto Mohammad's than deal
honestly with his Jewish flesh and blood
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 17:37:51 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This whole scenario is not
that
He came in the flesh for one
purpose and one purpose only - whichwas to become a living sacrifice
and
die for your sin and mine. He
is no longer "according to the flesh" The first man Adam was of the earth
or
earthy - the second man Adam
is a life giving spirit. If you want to call that
His Jewish flesh and blood
hung on a sinner's cross and is no more; God did not allow it to see
corruption
as He did not allow anyone
(not even the devil himself)to know where He buried Moses. Today
Jesus has
a new transformed body that
can walk through walls. His Jewish body couldn't do
myth (he was JC
before he died as well as afterwards; JCs body emerged from the tomb into which
he was strapped and sealed--ppl saidhe was unstrapped and released from
the tomb with a little help from his friends andthereafter recognized
among other friends as JC himself--they ate with JC,
prove it--don't
leavereaders stranded in your ignorance
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:30:39 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
His Jewish flesh
and blood hung on a sinner's cross and is no
more
and JCs
body'stands' in continuity with his historicJewish flesh--the flesh
into which some kinda sharp thick nails were driven whichleft gaping holes
which undoubtedly remained visible in some sensein both his feet and
hands--this is trueacc to the NT and many sem profs and theologians i
My credential is Romans
2:28,29 Gary and this will stand when all else fails includingyour
evil words
and your prideful
judgmentalism - which so far as I can see has no backing or credentials
itself...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
your ignorance is
well documented--now let's work on who
no it
isn't--credential credibility arises from what you and the sources close to you
say about it--and Izzy's isn't helping you
the proof is that
nobody on this list, inc Izzy,lacks your same'credential'; you're
using/losingan argument in which I can prove that from
your'credential'Bob
Whose ignorance?
You are the Seminary educated one - what did they teach
you? Jesus' body after the cross
was a 'transformed' body. One with flesh and bone
butno blood. His Jewish body had
blood Gary unlike his transformed Kingdom
body.
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 16:37:04 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 17:29:41 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
no it
isn't--credential credibility arises from what you and the sources close to
you say about it--and Izzy's isn't helping you
Oh, you mean nothing
is credible aside from the approval of man - and Izzy won't
do?
living bone
(marrow)generates both red and white blood cells--your point, then, as
usual,is thatJC ain't human, that resurrection ain't human/bodily
the (ongoing)dualism-clutched-in-ignorance of which is thoroughly
documented
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 21:31:19 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gibberish!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
no
it isn't--credential credibility arises from what you and the sources
close to you say about it--and Izzy's isn't helping you
the
proof is that nobody on this list, inc Izzy,lacks your
same'credential'; you're using/losingan argument in
is well documented
(e.g., M Gilmore, _Tangled Up in the Bible: Bob Dylan and Scripture_); as
isBob Dylan's inquisitive relationship with, inc even professional
assistance to, Green
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 21:47:25 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Keith ..Green [as a
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:57:05 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
tell us
whatBob Dylansaid
Glad to -
read on.
From my hippie days prior to conversion in 1973, I
remember rock legend Bob Dylan (1941- ) (real name Robert Zimmerman) very
well. It
no help
fromhere, either
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:55:48 -0500 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Gibberish! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
no it
isn't--credential credibility arises from what you and the sources close to
you say about it--and Izzy's isn't helping you
lol
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:05:18 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:57:05 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
tell us
whatBob Dylansaid
Glad to -
read on.
(David Cloud, Fundamental Baptist
Who is M. Gilmore? I used to follow the ministry of the
late Keith Green and his wife Melody who was the songwrite;
I listened to theirmusic and received their ministry Newsletters -I can assure you Gary
that neither of them is or ever
wasaMessianic Jew. M. Gilmore must be mixed up - but
so you're relishing
ignorance too--eh T?
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:02:30 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
no help
fromhere, either
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:55:48 -0500 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Gibberish! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
no it
He recognizes nonsense when he reads it Gary, it's
called spiritual discernment
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:13:12 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
so you're
relishing ignorance too--eh T?
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:02:30 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
no help
fromhere,
Looks as though you are smoking some of the same stuff
as your mentor ...
Should cause us to weep and to pray for him.
because obviously he has returned to
the mire and isin a mess.
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:07:56 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
lol
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:05:18 -0400
you don't know who
he is yet you shamelessly rip the guy like you own his
hide..
FTR, he's an NT
theologian recently at Providence College in Manitoba Canada; a well known Dylan
scholar
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:12:02 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Who is M. Gilmore?
that'sthe
Fundamentalist Baptistfall back position when you've got zero
credible reliablecredentials?
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:13:12 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
so you're
relishing ignorance too--eh T?
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:02:30 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
no help
theactual evidence of mire hereis
thedripping sound of acidfrom the tip of your treacherous tongue
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:20:14 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Looks as though you are smoking some of the same
stuff as your mentor ...
Should cause us to weep and to pray
ftr, that isn't Bob
Dylan speaking, below--that's David Cloud's FB rhetoric, the stuff that
ignorancethrives on
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:20:14 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Looks as though you are smoking some of the same
stuff as your mentor ...
Should cause us to weep
You don't know the difference between an honest
question and "shamelessly ripping" some guy?
From what you wrote couldn't tell if he was male of
female. I hope he knows more about the NT
than he knows about the Greens and I wouldn't trust his
research on Dylan.
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:19:29
Just can't bring yourself todeal with the facts
can you Gary?
And when you don't like the message - just kill
the messenger and relax with what you dolike..
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:31:03 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
theactual evidence of mire hereis
thedripping sound of acidfrom
i think your
evidence suggests that hope in ignorance breeds a certain kind of
unbelief--interesting
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:43:57 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I hope[Gilmore] knows more about the NT than he knows about the Greens and I wouldn't trust his research
on
And your lack of evidence suggests a certain type of
educated, elitist, smugness but Oh well,
if that is what you are happy with - go for it.
You marvel over the words of Dylan and I will feed
on the "living Word"
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:54:32 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
i think your
what
documentationis lacking?
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:08:22 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..your lack of evidence suggests a certain
type of educated, elitist, smugness
All of it, I've yet to see you document anything. You
are always demanding what you
don't ever produce yourself ... such as credentials
etc.
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 21:21:27 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
what
documentationis lacking?
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:08:22 -0400 Judy Taylor
I like it when Jews become Believers w/o
abandoning their Jewishness. I think at first they believe they must
become more gentile, but then realize that they can be
comfortable as whoever they were when they were called.* (Our Savior is a
Jew, after all.) Im just not sure BDylan is still a
i'll chalk your
ignorance up to your blindedness, then, and leave it at
that
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:35:22 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
All of it, I've yet to see you document anything. You
are always demanding what you
don't ever produce yourself ... such as
Is this true, Gary? If so, then he is probably fallen away,
wouldnt you say? Or is this a false report IYO? If so, can you give us
any statement from BDylan to the contrary? iz
An article in the San Luis Obispo (California) Register for
March 16, 1983, quoted Dylan as
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:47:09 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And when you don't like the message..
try singing--this
has a great tune, a great message:
There was _[the] wicked messenger_From Eli he did
come,With a mind that multipliedThe smallest matter.When
FTR when it is a direct quote it is Dylan speaking
ie:
Dylans testimony was as follows: One thing led
to another ... until I had this feeling, this vision and
feeling. I truly had a born-again experience, if you want to call it
that. Its an over-used term, but its something that people can
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