RE: [TruthTalk] Evangelism

2005-01-21 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Terry,   David got them from E-Sword.  Use this link: http://www.e-sword.net/files/setup752.exe   Then go to this page http://www.e-sword.net/extras.html and download http://www.e-sword.net/files/extras/ante-nicene.exe.   9 volumes of the Ante-Nicene Fathers await you.   Jonathan  

RE: [TruthTalk] Bookman

2005-01-19 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Hi Judy,   If you go way back in the archives you will see a review that I did for this book.  Below are some web resources.   http://cana.userworld.com/cana_DaVinciCode.html   http://www.fpcboulder.org/images/ministries/adult/davinci.pdf  Scroll down to the bottom where they list a n

RE: [TruthTalk] The Nicene Creed and Truthtalk Members

2005-01-18 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Click here: http://www.e-sword.net/files/setup752.exe   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:53 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Nicene Creed and Truthtalk Members   Okay……

RE: [TruthTalk] The Nicene Creed and Truthtalk Members

2005-01-16 Thread Jonathan Hughes
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hughes Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 7:32 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] The Nicene Creed and Truthtalk Members   Welcome to the forum Gregory.  You should know that Judy denies the Nicene Creed mostly based on bad exegesis on

[TruthTalk] The Nicene Creed and Truthtalk Members

2005-01-16 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Welcome to the forum Gregory.  You should know that Judy denies the Nicene Creed mostly based on bad exegesis on her part and a huge misunderstanding of the history behind the creed of all creeds.  Judy is also an Arian with a subtle split between God and Jesus.  She is vehement in denying

RE: [TruthTalk] Bill says goodbye?

2005-01-13 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Terry, you are such a prick. It is bad enough that Judy monopolizes the idiot portion of this forum to have you tack on such an insensitive comment. You are an embarrassment to this forum. Jonathan 'ticked off at how people have treated Bill, ticked off at how the hypocrite and lying Judy gets aw

RE: [TruthTalk] On Echad

2005-01-12 Thread Jonathan Hughes
-- slade -Original Message----- From: Jonathan Hughes Sent: Wednesday, 12 January, 2005 20.20 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] On Echad Hi Slade,   I realize that your one word answer is most likely a result of busyness.  If I can tweak any more out of you (or at a time that is better for you)

RE: [TruthTalk] On Echad

2005-01-12 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Hi Slade,   I realize that your one word answer is most likely a result of busyness.  If I can tweak any more out of you (or at a time that is better for you) would you agree that the Newer Testament (read Jesus Christ) gives a fuller revelation of God than the Older Testament?   Jonath

RE: [TruthTalk] The Image of God

2005-01-03 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Hi Judy.  I admit to being disappointed that you appear to not have wrestled with my post.  I put a lot of work into that post to help you move from a non-biblical viewpoint to one supported by scripture.  Ah well, two points to me for trying!   You are correct in that I do not think that

RE: [TruthTalk] Why the Eternal Sonship of Christ Matters to Me

2005-01-03 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Hi Izzy,   The reason I have not replied to you was because of what you said at the end of your first request to me on why my belief in the ‘eternal sonship’ matters.  I will quote the ending:   How has it made you a better person?  (I can’t imagine.)   The sarcastic nature of the ‘I

[TruthTalk] Doctrine of Creation

2005-01-03 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Hi David, When I was younger there were a few arguments that one used to determine where one stood on the evangelical spectrum. Ten to fifteen years ago it was evolution versus creation, the end-times, and the use of the 'sign' gifts. Nowadays the litmus tests seem to be either abortion or your

RE: [TruthTalk] Why the Eternal Sonship of Christ Matters to Me

2005-01-03 Thread Jonathan Hughes
The term Father as applied to God that we are referring to is the classical definition of the Trinity as Father, Son, and Spirit. This is not the Father you are referring to. I believe you are thinking that God must have created offspring to be a Father. Jesus Christ and the Spirit were not creat

RE: [TruthTalk] Why the Eternal Sonship of Christ Matters to Me

2005-01-03 Thread Jonathan Hughes
    Jonathan writes: The Trinity is the relationship as one of the Father, Son and Spirit eternally.  It is who God is.    jt: God calls Himself by many titles in scripture, Elohim is only one of them.   JBH:  I would suggest moving away from titles to who God is inherentl

RE: [TruthTalk] Why the Eternal Sonship of Christ Matters to Me

2005-01-02 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Hi David, You are correct in recognizing that I have illustrated a major difference in our hermeneutic. I begin with Christ, you begin with syntax. I have an overarching guide to interpretation (it must be consistent with who God is as He reveals Himself in the Person of Jesus Christ). You have

RE: [TruthTalk] Why the Eternal Sonship of Christ Matters to Me

2005-01-02 Thread Jonathan Hughes
: [TruthTalk] Why the Eternal Sonship of Christ Matters to Me   Jonathan Hughes wrote: Judy,   I believe that there is a barometer built into Christianity that helps us to identify heresy.  I believe that that barometer is the Trinity.  When people deny the eternal sonship of Jesus Christ they

RE: [TruthTalk] The place of creeds in relation to truth

2005-01-02 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Hi Judy,   Yes the word ‘made’ is past tense but it is applied to a current situation for why one should not shed another person’s blood.  The author uses it to explain why murder is not right.  There is no logical reason for the author to refer to the image of God if it was no longer pre

[TruthTalk] Why the Eternal Sonship of Christ Matters to Me

2005-01-02 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Judy, When I was younger I used to like completing mazes.  It wasn't long before, either through someone telling me or through dumb luck, that I figured out that it was wiser to solve a tough maze by beginning with the end and working one's way back to the start.  It provided a different p

RE: [TruthTalk] Creation v. Evolution

2005-01-02 Thread Jonathan Hughes
A complete misunderstanding Terry or else a nice sarcastic shot at Lance. I was hoping that the new year would bring less sarcasm from you and more beneficial participation. Please don't disappoint me. We use the Bible today as a source for truth because of the Word who lives eternally. It is n

[TruthTalk] Humankind in the Image of God

2005-01-02 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Hi Judy,   I would like to think that this email will solve the ‘image of God for all of humankind’ discussion once and for all.  I am being naïve if I think this.  I would ask that you search the scriptures and allow some credence for my argument below.  I used to think that having ortho

RE: [TruthTalk] The place of creeds in relation to truth

2005-01-02 Thread Jonathan Hughes
For the record there is nothing in Lance's post that even comes close to suggesting evolutionary theory. What Lance is referring to is a point made by Duns Scotus (1266-1308) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duns_Scotus) who suggested that the incarnation would still have occurred even if sin had not

RE: [TruthTalk] Tsunami Disaster Relief

2005-01-02 Thread Jonathan Hughes
I used www.amazon.com.  It was extremely simple but I already had an account set up there.   JBH From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 9:02 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Tsunami Disa

RE: [TruthTalk] The place of creeds in relation to truth

2004-12-31 Thread Jonathan Hughes
David: >Therefore, creeds are immature philosophical steps on the path to truth. >They do not represent the actual apprehension of truth, but only the hopeful >expectation of what might be found once that truth is fully apprehended. We >should not fear deviating from creeds. > > DAVEH: Isn't the

[TruthTalk] Enter Subject Here

2004-12-30 Thread Jonathan Hughes
The next person who writes a post with the subject title ‘Judy’s Plagiarism’ will be subject to my wrath.  The topic was concluded days ago.  Please remember that the contents of one’s post should coordinate with the content of the subject line.   And I am back.   Jonathan   F

RE: [TruthTalk] The Eternal Sonship of Christ

2004-12-28 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Question: What is the nature of Christ’s sonship? Answer: Concerning the eternal Sonship of Christ, Ryrie has this to say: I agree with Buswell (A Systematic Theology of the Christian Religion, pp. 105-12) that generation is not an exeg

RE: [TruthTalk] The Eternal Sonship of Christ

2004-12-28 Thread Jonathan Hughes
The Divine Processions and the Eternal Sonship of Christ with a refutation of Mormon errors on this subject Introduction This essay looks at the Catholic Doctrines of the Divine Processions and the Eternal Sonship of Christ, and refutes some Mormon errors in this regard. The First s

RE: [TruthTalk] The Eternal Sonship of Christ

2004-12-28 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Taken from http://home.nyc.rr.com/mysticalrose/sonship.html WHEN DID JESUS BECOME THE SON OF GOD? For two thousand years, Christians have always believed that Jesus is the Eternal Son of God. This truth is enshrined in the Nicene Creed:  "I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only

[TruthTalk] The Eternal Sonship of Christ

2004-12-28 Thread Jonathan Hughes
More scriptural evidence for the heresy rampant on this forum.  Taken from http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/doctrine/sonship.htm     The Eternal Sonship of Christ 1)The Doctrine of Eternal Sonship   The doctrine of eternal Sonship declares that the Second Person of the triune

RE: [TruthTalk] Sinless Perfection

2004-12-28 Thread Jonathan Hughes
David, The other day you mentioned that you had read NT Wright on Romans. It is my opinion that you have deceived the list by implying that you have actually done this. I do not believe you had even heard of NT Wright until John, Lance, Bill and I brought him up. Was it a quote of 100 words or

RE: [TruthTalk] Judy's Plagiarism

2004-12-28 Thread Jonathan Hughes
discord by mishandling both John Smithson and Judy Taylor.  John was completely in the right, Judy completely in the wrong.  David has taken the opposite tack and thus the forum is now in shambles.  I hope this is all worked out and that Christ will again have a place on this forum.   Jonathan Hughes

RE: [TruthTalk] Judy's Plagiarism

2004-12-28 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Jonathan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 11:25 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy's Plagiarism     On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 23:08:13 -0500 &

RE: [TruthTalk] Are there any bad Christian's in the House?

2004-12-28 Thread Jonathan Hughes
AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Are there any bad Christian's in the House?       From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hughes Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 10:12 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [Trut

[TruthTalk] Are there any bad Christian's in the House?

2004-12-27 Thread Jonathan Hughes
  Izzy wrote:   Bill, this is NOT something of which one should accuse a Believer, as Believers do NOT do these things (hypocrisy, the deceit, the dishonesty).  Izzy   Jonathan responds, attempting to keep himself reined in:  Are you kidding me?  Christians are not hypocrites, deceitfu

RE: [TruthTalk] Judy's Plagiarism

2004-12-27 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Jonathan in dark blue as JBH.     On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:00:29 -0500 "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I am not speaking of your plagiarism. I really care less about it...   jt: Then why do you continue to feed comments like Gary's and help to keep the is

RE: [TruthTalk] Idioms and Figures of Speech

2004-12-27 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Slade is right Terry.  You are being completely pagan here and above all talking absolute nonsense.  God is not violating a rule (as you call it) that humans function under by not having a mother.  That is called anthropological theology (man to God).  It uses what we experience and then sl

RE: [TruthTalk] So Long David Miller, and Thanks for the Fish

2004-12-24 Thread Jonathan Hughes
    Me in Green.     On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:33:42 -0500 "Jonathan Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Judy, I wish you had been more forthcoming of the fact that you are a card carrying cult member of the Jehovah Witness’.  At least your theology now m

RE: [TruthTalk] So Long David Miller, and Thanks for the Fish

2004-12-24 Thread Jonathan Hughes
.  is the "faith" once delivered to the saints Jonathan.  We ought to be commending David Miller for his faithfulness to the Truth.  jht   On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:35:40 -0500 "Jonathan Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dear David Miller, After weeks

[TruthTalk] So Long David Miller, and Thanks for the Fish

2004-12-24 Thread Jonathan Hughes
gone.   The Truthtalk Bouncer,   Jonathan Hughes --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.818 / Virus Database: 556 - Release Date: 12/17/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus

[TruthTalk] The Eternal Sonship of Christ

2004-12-24 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Hi Judy,   What follows below is an article/sermon by John MacArthur.  He used to hold the position you espouse below but after much study changed his mind and affirmed what scripture says about Jesus Christ.  I think you will find it interesting.   REEXAMINING THE ETERNAL SONSHIP OF JE

RE: [TruthTalk] emergency prayer request

2004-12-23 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Consider them prayed for.  Please update us as soon as you know of their situation.   Jonathan   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 3:34 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] emergency

RE: [TruthTalk] The Right Way To Get To The Truth

2004-12-19 Thread Jonathan Hughes
jt: Jesus didn't say there was no generational sin involved, what he did say was that the problem was not with the man or his parents and that His (Jesus) priority at that moment was to work the works of God.  Remember? Jesus came to do good and to heal ALL who were oppressed by the devil

RE: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor

2004-12-17 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Let me say it again:   King David: Bad Fruit, Good guy, accepted in Christ. Abraham: Bad Fruit, Good guy, accepted in Christ. Terry (and everyone else on TT including the sinless one): Bad Fruit, Good guy, accepted in Christ.   Actually, it wasn’t me that said that.  I am just repeati

RE: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor

2004-12-17 Thread Jonathan Hughes
What a moronic comment Terry.  Satan just loves when people act like you do. (Using the words Satan and love in the same sentence should touch off another topic).   Jonathan   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Friday, December 17,

RE: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor

2004-12-17 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Judy,   If ‘all things live and have their being’ in Christ do you believe that Satan would be included in ‘all things’?  There must be something (SomeOne) who upholds our existence.  This includes the existence of Satan.  I also do not understand how this works but if Christ is Lord of a

RE: [TruthTalk] The Right Way To Get To The Truth

2004-12-17 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Yes it does exist and I ordered it for you yesterday.  Does this wreck the surprise!   Jonathab   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 6:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Right Way To Get

RE: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor

2004-12-14 Thread Jonathan Hughes
My main objection was that Izzy characterized yet again that Lance does not give a whit about scripture just because what she believed about the answer to whether Judas is saved or not is made clear in the English version of her text. Izzy has a bee in her bonnet against anyone that she labels a l

RE: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor

2004-12-13 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Ahh the typical Izzy can attack anyone else's character but she is given free reign? Won't work with me David. Izzy needs to stand up and be responsible for the words she puts out on this forum. I have made it clear many times I am sick of her maligning liberals (both politicians and theologians

RE: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor

2004-12-13 Thread Jonathan Hughes
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 8:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor   Jonathan Hughes wrote: Hi Izzy,       Now that you realize that Jesus was not speaking about salvation in this

RE: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor

2004-12-13 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Hi Izzy,   Your comment below disturbs me.  First you drop a scripture bomb as if that is all that is needed to be said for the subject to be closed.  Then you say that Jesus says that Judas was lost.  Then you imply that Lance has a lower view of scripture than your own exalted one.  It

[TruthTalk] Revealed Truth

2004-12-08 Thread Jonathan Hughes
This is in response to the thread regarding logic, rationality, and rationalism.  I have started a new thread in case people want to continue with the original.  After reading this thread for the past week I am convinced that what we really need to be speaking of is revelation or the concep

RE: [TruthTalk] Is Truth always rational?

2004-12-06 Thread Jonathan Hughes
David, You continue to help us define anthropological theology. You define all things in God from a human standpoint instead of allowing God's revelation in Himself to define all things human (called theological anthropology). You did it with your word study on 'hate' and you are doing it again n

RE: [TruthTalk] The Outside of the Cup

2004-12-06 Thread Jonathan Hughes
David, Well I am sure after my last 3 replies you probably have your persecution hat on. You usually bring it out when people disagree with you. Oh how we on the forum hate you right? Sigh. I expect an email dictating how I have sinned by in any way illustrating the fallacies of your emails.

RE: [TruthTalk] Rules and Relationships

2004-12-06 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Possibly one of the stupidest posts I have ever seen on TruthTalk. So much for being without sin Mr. Miller. John humbly illustrates an example from his own life and all you have to come back with is that you are so clearly above us all by not having an ex-wife of your own. Sad. Tactless. John

RE: [TruthTalk] Individualism

2004-12-06 Thread Jonathan Hughes
David, Please define what the sin in the Garden of Eden was? Attempt to do it without using the words autonomy or individualism. Then define what Lucifer's sin was. Then figure out the difference between unity in diversity and autonomy. They are not equivalent. Consider co-humanity instead of

[TruthTalk] Free Sundar Singh Audio Book

2004-12-02 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Hi Izzy,   I think I remember you mentioning that you liked Sundar Singh.  There is a free audiobook (At the Master’s Feet) of his at the following address:   http://www.freechristianaudiobooks.com/main.htm   Jonathan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG a

[TruthTalk] The Schizophrenic God

2004-11-26 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Here on TruthTalk we talk about truth.  This usually is a dialogue with scripture.  Tonight I was struck by a title of a book, “Beyond the Bible: Moving from Scripture to Theology”.  The word theology means ‘God-talk’.  All of us on this forum in some way (and often in different ways) paint

RE: [TruthTalk] Tearing Down?

2004-11-20 Thread Jonathan Hughes
One way I use (and for the sake of a disclaimer I do not think this is the only way, nor is it the only way I use) to determine if what one says is of God is the response I feel within me.  When I read this post all my senses gathered up to a zinging point.  And yes I think I just made up t

RE: [TruthTalk] On TOE -- Relational Theology

2004-11-20 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Good morning Judy,   A quick note on how we use the word incarnation (incarnate means to embody in human form).  We should have cleared this up earlier.  You are correct in that it is often just used in association with the birth of Jesus.  When I use the word incarnation I am speaking of

RE: [TruthTalk] A birthday request.

2004-11-20 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Hi Jeff,   If you ever felt it to be appropriate I would like to hear the story of your wife.   JBH   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Powers Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A birthday

RE: [TruthTalk] Kabbalah

2004-11-19 Thread Jonathan Hughes
My Experience with Kabbalah   I am a sucker for books on healing.  I will buy them by the basketful.  A year and a half ago I ordered a book called 'The 72 Names of God: Technology for the Soul' by Yehuda Berg.  It was recommended to me by a health care provider that I trusted.  I also bo

RE: [TruthTalk] Two Covenants?

2004-11-19 Thread Jonathan Hughes
ps.  Based on what I have said, can you see why Slade's response this morning came out of 'internal relations'?    Unfortunately my lunch break is over :)   Jonathan Hughes   Jonathan, I’m not sure anyone can use one theory to unify all know physical information.

RE: [TruthTalk] Tearing down?

2004-11-19 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Jonathan in Green.   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Tearing down?   Jonathan wrote: > ... the 'I'll just call em liars' post et

RE: [TruthTalk] Tearing down?

2004-11-19 Thread Jonathan Hughes
A heavily moderated list becomes one man's empire. I would not hang around here if this list became heavily moderated. We are all adults. The moderator (in my opinion) should only enter the fray when it is absolutely called for. This list has been lightly moderated for the last 8-12 months. The

RE: [TruthTalk] Tearing down?

2004-11-19 Thread Jonathan Hughes
I would like to see very little from Slade as Moderator on this list.  I would prefer that the list was peer moderated.  When we (including me) step over the line I expect to hear about it from our/my peers.  In times past Lance has often said that I could have constructed a post differentl

RE: [TruthTalk] 613 Commands

2004-11-14 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Please replace all references to David Brook to David Brock.  Thank you.   JBH   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hughes Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 5:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] 613 Commands   Ahh Judge

RE: [TruthTalk] 613 Commands

2004-11-14 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Jonathan how is it that you never want to discuss issues and ideas?  Your focus seems to be always on the person?   On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 09:52:07 -0500 "Jonathan Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Often on this forum I feel like I am pointing out the obvious.  J

RE: [TruthTalk] 613 Commands

2004-11-14 Thread Jonathan Hughes
was an evil man.  The other was pointless gossip.  If that disturbs you then don’t keep bringing it up.  And put your pointy finger away please. Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hughes Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 11:21 AM To: [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] 613 Commands

2004-11-14 Thread Jonathan Hughes
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hughes Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 10:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] 613 Commands   Ahh the case of the moving points!  Don’t worry.  Sherlock Hughes is here to solve the case.  The original point was that you stated you did

RE: [TruthTalk] 613 Commands

2004-11-14 Thread Jonathan Hughes
pedophilia was mentioned as one of his many traits in that particular article. Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hughes Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 10:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] 613 Commands   From the archives

RE: [TruthTalk] The Gospel

2004-11-14 Thread Jonathan Hughes
thing before I leave this conversation. David has not posted since you accused him of being the sainted and that I was one of his devotees. Suzy Suzy --- Jonathan Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Suzy, > > I am not sure what your purpose is here. You have > been on

RE: [TruthTalk] 613 Commands

2004-11-14 Thread Jonathan Hughes
ROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] 613 Commands   Read it again, Jon.  I stated that I intentionally did not post any articles about his sexual perversity. Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hughes Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 8:52 AM To

RE: [TruthTalk] 613 Commands

2004-11-14 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Often on this forum I feel like I am pointing out the obvious.  Judy, Izzy posted a WorldNetDaily article dealing with ‘reported’ stories of Arafat being a homosexual.  You then brought this into a conversation with Slade.  You admit that it is something that is just ‘reported’, not necessa

RE: [TruthTalk] The Gospel

2004-11-14 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Hi Suzy, I am not sure what your purpose is here. You have been on the forum for about 5 or 6 days and have jumped right into a discussion that has a very long history. A certain edge has built up during this conversation they have been having. Both of them have to communicate through this edge

RE: [TruthTalk] Arafat is gone

2004-11-13 Thread Jonathan Hughes
I have had to hold my anger in all day long.  Slade you have done a wonderful and graceful job in answering Izzy and Judy today.  When one relies on WorldnetDaily for news one tends to fall into error.  Believing an article from WND (Weapons of News Destruction) as absolute truth is far fet

RE: [TruthTalk] Did God hate or love Esau?

2004-11-07 Thread Jonathan Hughes
I have created a new litmus test for choosing Supreme Court Judges.  Abortion is so passé.  Instead I will place a bible and a picture of Jesus beside one another.  I will then ask the applicant if they believe the word and the Word are equivalent.  If they answer yes I will immediately bra

RE: [TruthTalk] Did God hate or love Esau?

2004-11-07 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Jonathan’s useless post of the day:  Ovaltine is created by Satan.  That and meatloaf.  My wife loves Ovaltine.  The stench drives me insane.   JBH   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 4:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROT

RE: [TruthTalk] Passion for the Christ?

2004-11-06 Thread Jonathan Hughes
  A few people have asked me to explain what I mean by having passion for the Person of Jesus Christ.  I am going to do something I rarely do on TruthTalk.  Yup, I am going to quote scripture.  I usually try to avoid doing this.  I strive to make posts that are biblically based by picking

RE: [TruthTalk] Did God hate or love Esau?

2004-11-05 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Spurgeon's commentary on Romans 9:13. Please note that me quoting it does not mean I agree with it :) WHY DID GOD LOVE JACOB AND HATE ESAU? I can tell you why God LOVED Jacob; IT IS SOVEREIGN GRACE! There was nothing in Jacob that could make God love him; there was everything about him that might

RE: [TruthTalk] Did God hate or love Esau?

2004-11-05 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Izzy, do you think there is anything your own children could do to make you actually hate or loathe them? Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 8:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Tr

RE: [TruthTalk] Re:The 'Beyond Within' and The Way of Jesus

2004-11-05 Thread Jonathan Hughes
      On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 11:08:53 -0500 "Hughes Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Those who are quick to judge others on this forum include every single member.  Not a day goes by without some judging going on.  The problem is, one states that they are not quick to judge b

RE: [TruthTalk] abortion info from a friend to TT =-- JD

2004-11-04 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Can't wait to see how David tries to spin these stats. JBH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] abortion info from a friend to TT =-- J

RE: [TruthTalk] Arafat is Dying

2004-11-03 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Hi David, I seem to push a lot of your buttons. Either that or you just seem to have a lot of buttons to push. Your questions are quite loaded. You and I probably have different definitions of terrorism. Please supply yours so I can see the context you are working out of. I assume that you

RE: [TruthTalk] Arafat is Dying

2004-11-03 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Hi David, When we say that Izzy is much better than Arafat we are saying that Izzy is better behaved than Arafat. We are not saying that Izzy is more deserving of love or the blood of Jesus Christ. Note the last part of my sentence: we need to realize that God loves both Izzy and Arafat. In tha

RE: [TruthTalk] Congratulations to all Bush supporters

2004-11-03 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Exactly John, Just because one is in a position of power does not mean that person is approved by God. Besides, in a democracy, for God to have a part in it would mean God would have to place a vote. From what I am hearing He wasn't on the list and was rejected. He filled out a provisional ball

[TruthTalk] Kerry and Abortion

2004-10-31 Thread Jonathan Hughes
I made some posts a number of weeks back on Kerry, Bush and abortion.  The following article explains what I was attempting to say quite well.   Pro-Life...Pro-Kerry? Why anti-abortion voters might want to take another look by Joshua Holland, Contributor 10.29.04 Sometimes in an elect

RE: [TruthTalk] www.Bushvideo.com

2004-10-31 Thread Jonathan Hughes
The video Izzy should have posted: http://static.vidvote.com/movies/bushuncensored.mov   Happy Halloween folks.   JBH   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 6:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Truth

RE: [TruthTalk] To Jonathan

2004-10-31 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Matt Drudge has openly admitted that he goes to gay bars.  Would this be where you are having lunch?   JBH   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 6:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] To Jona

RE: [TruthTalk] To Jonathan

2004-10-31 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Hi Judy,   Not sure why this matters to you so much.  Regardless of his sexuality it is still the best conservative web site for gossip/news just as buzzflash is the best liberal site for gossip/news.  There are many reports of Drudge’s homosexuality.  He has admitted to dating guys but h

RE: [TruthTalk] Arafat is Dying

2004-10-29 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Slade I feel very thankful for your input on this.  Learning how to read such passages is vital to us understanding who God is.  You have much to teach us.   JBH   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:01 PM

RE: [TruthTalk] Bush and Christianity

2004-10-29 Thread Jonathan Hughes
ather than slanderous to add to Wikipedia below?   On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:48:56 -0400 "Jonathan Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Judy, Bush is not a member of any church regardless of location.  Your lack of knowledge of Karl Rove is rather astounding.  No one currently in po

RE: [TruthTalk] Bush's Brain

2004-10-29 Thread Jonathan Hughes
As a fascinating study of alleged corruption and unchecked ambition, Bush's Brain is anything but balanced, but it's an important film that invites viewers to draw their own conclusions.   That says it all.   JBH   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

RE: [TruthTalk] Bush and Christianity

2004-10-29 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Izzy,   Judging me is getting to be a full time hobby for you.  Note how I prefaced the article:  I do not agree with everything written in it.  I have made it clear that I do believe that W is a Christian.  I have also made it clear that this does not put him outside the realm of honest

RE: [TruthTalk] Bush and Christianity

2004-10-29 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Judy, Bush is not a member of any church regardless of location.  Your lack of knowledge of Karl Rove is rather astounding.  No one currently in politics is considered to be dirtier.  Do some google searches.  You will be amazed at what you find out.  I can guarantee you it won’t be Christi

RE: [TruthTalk] The Hebrew Mindset

2004-10-27 Thread Jonathan Hughes
ete without the others.  Judyt   On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:17:19 -0400 "Jonathan Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Judy,   I believe that one must hold to a proper concept of the Trinity.  This includes the One and the Three.  I do not believe that the stress on th

RE: [TruthTalk] Arafat is Dying

2004-10-27 Thread Jonathan Hughes
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Arafat is Dying   Jonathan Hughes wrote: Aye I read this today as well and had some of the same thoughts.  He is definitely quite sick if not close

[TruthTalk] The Hebrew Mindset

2004-10-27 Thread Jonathan Hughes
] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Kryptonite Theory of Sin   Jonathan, do you also see the Godhead as "broken up" Father, Son, and Holy Spirit? Where's the Hebrew mind's wholeness there?   On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:30:03 -0400 "Jonathan Hughes" <[EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] Arafat is Dying

2004-10-27 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Aye I read this today as well and had some of the same thoughts.  He is definitely quite sick if not close to death.  May God have mercy on him.   JBH   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 9:40 PM To: [EMA

RE: [TruthTalk] The Kryptonite Theory of Sin

2004-10-27 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Slade I anxiously await your response to this one.  I am very grateful to a few people in my life (including Lance) who have pointed out how important the Hebrew mindset is to understanding Christianity.  The concept of wholeness in the human instead of the broken up spirit, soul, body, min

RE: [TruthTalk] The Kryptonite Theory of Sin

2004-10-27 Thread Jonathan Hughes
I would like to see these threads.  I look forward to listening.  I do have one book on the subject, “Hebrew Thought Compared with Greek” by Thorleif Boman.   JBH   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:07

RE: For Linda: FW: For Linda: FW: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-27 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Spontaneous Combustion is a good one.  I have a bottle in my fridge right now.  Hot sauces are a bit of a hobby for me.  For flavour I prefer the Original Death Sauce (After Death for more heat) and Scorned Woman.   Jonathan   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

RE: For Linda: FW: For Linda: FW: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2004-10-26 Thread Jonathan Hughes
http://www.pyropepper.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=1898MD   They say this is the hottest in existence right now.  Boy do I want it.   JBH   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 5:16 P

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